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LDI · Former Member Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 2

9/17/04 the Secretary of the Navy in a report to a filing by Judicial Watch deemed the award of Kerry's medals as "appropriate."

LDI · Former Member Joined: 17 Sep 2004 Posts: 2

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Here is the crux of, and the relevance of, the story on Bush's service -- were Bush's service reviewed (as were John Kerry's medals by the Navy this past week at the request of Judicial Watch), and were Bush found to have disobeyed an order to take a physical, and were Bush found to have been unfit to fulfill his military mission as a pilot due to his absence from duty -- would such a review change his discharge to dishonorable and could a man with a dishonorable discharge be elected or serve as president?

John Kerry's medals were deemed by the Navy (9/18/04) to have been appropriately awarded.

Who could conduct such a review of a sitting president's service? Only an independent commission could do so without the taint of cover-up that would come from a Congressional committee, a Pentagon or Justice Department review. Given the timeline for such a review, if Bush were reelected, could a man with a dishonorable discharge continue to serve as president? Would this not lead to impeachment?

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Vietvet CPO · Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:02 pm Post subject: kerrywearswrong medals?

In the pictures of Kerry's senate testimony he appears to wearing two bronze statrs on his vietnam service ribbon. This would indicate 3 tours!!
Since he was only there only 3 months I doubt he earned the stars!!!!!!!
( Mine has 3 stars, thanks to Kerry and those traitors like him!)

kwanah · Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:36 am Post subject: Judicial Watch

Anyone know the status of the remaining items included in the Judicial Watch request? For example, Kerry's meeting with the North Vietnamese in France while a member of the Naval Reserve?

DrEntropy · Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 9:58 am Post subject:

kwanah wrote:

RacerJim · Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:32 am Post subject:

DrEntropy · Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 11:48 am Post subject:

RacerJim wrote:

RacerJim · Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject:

Hondo · LCDR Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 423 Location: USA

Vietvet CPO:

Hate to say it, but you're wrong there, Chief.

DoD 1348.33-M, Manual of Military Decorations and Awards, states that stars on the Vietnam Service Medal recognize campaign participation - not tours of duty. From Appendix 6, p. 166, the recognized Vietnam Campaigns are

subsailor 2

Judical Watch has sent a blast back at the IG on 9/23 that they will have to respond to. You can see it on their site. Look for VADM Route's retirement soon.

Re: the VSM - Hondo is correct. Kerry gets two stars for the two months the Gridley was on line because their service overlapped the end of one campaign and the start of another (March/April 6 Cool

and he gets two more for his time with the swift boats.

What is galling is that he gets shipped from COSDIV-14 to COSDIV-11, is there for a week, whines his way out of it to COSDIV-13 and gets a NUC for that week.

In his pictures where he has his ribbons on his fatigues hs is wearing a pistol and rifle marksmanship award that he didn't earn (not in the released papers)

USMC-Pride · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 7:21 am Post subject:

Even IF and that is a HUGE IF the UCMJ does not apply because of his status at the time, Treason and Sedition are still in play.

The U.S. Sedition Act

Whoever, when the United States is at war, shall willfully make or convey false reports or false statements with intent to interfere with the operation or success of the military or naval forces of the United States, or to promote the success of it's enemies,or shall willfully make or convey false reports, or false statements,...or incite insubordination,disloyalty,mutiny,or refusal of duty, in the military or naval forces of the United States, or shall willfully obstruct...the recruiting or enlistment service of the United States, or...Shall willfully utter,print,write,or publish any disloyal,profane,scurrilous, or abusive language about the form of government of the United States, or the Constitution of the United States, or the military or naval forces of the United States...or shall willfully display the flag of any foreign enemy, or shall willfully...urge,incite,or advocate any curtailment of production...or advocate,teach,defend, or suggest the doing of any of the acts or things in this section enumerated and whoever shall by word or act support or favor the cause of any country with which the United States is at war or by word or act oppose the cause of the United States therein, shall be punished by a fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment for not more than twenty(20) years or both.......
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