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  Topic: BUPERS Instruction 1300.39 ... Expanded Context?
Ijon Tichy

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PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:42 pm   Subject: BUPERS Instruction 1300.39 ... Expanded Context?
It's very difficult (in my experience) to locate a full-context version of BUPERS Insturction 1300.39, the one that spang Kerry from his Swift-Boat service.

Ordinarily, we see partial quotations su ...
  Topic: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 19
Views: 13791

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 5:34 pm   Subject: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
Thanks, Herb!
That's a very good point, on the face of it.
Smile
  Topic: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 19
Views: 13791

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:13 am   Subject: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
(Removed quoted troll post - Admin)


Whether or not Bush has signed the form, I am looking for an authoritative source that confirms the report one way or another.

Thanks for the POV, however.
  Topic: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 19
Views: 13791

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:59 am   Subject: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
President Bush has released ALL of his military records, so yes, he has signed the 180.

Kerry makes a similar claim, yet I know that he hasn't signed a form 180.

Kerry on the other hand will not ...
  Topic: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 19
Views: 13791

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 5:53 am   Subject: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
I guess you don't watch much TV or read much - other than prerhaps the talking points on an un-named website.

I read quite a bit, actually. Like I said, I've seen it reported. I'm looking for une ...
  Topic: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 19
Views: 13791

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 3:47 am   Subject: Form 180: Has Bush signed one?
I've seen it claimed that President Bush has signed a form 180. Does anybody know this to be the case?

I know that it's slightly off-topic for this forum, but it seems somewhat relevant to the dem ...
  Topic: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 34
Views: 29017

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:45 pm   Subject: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
MSNBC is

A mention of small-arms and automatic weapons fire in the records do not make LCDR Thurlow a liar unless the records were either written by him or based directly on his report.
  Topic: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 34
Views: 29017

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 2:42 pm   Subject: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
With all due respect ladies & gentlemen (and I'm probably guilty of this myself), may I suggest LCDR Thurlow?

Uh, sure!
Though I'm still struggling to remember his first name, much less his mi ...
  Topic: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 34
Views: 29017

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 7:06 am   Subject: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Thank you, tvaughan.
That's the type of post I was hoping for (I have no reason to doubt your report, though it would still be nice to have the statement in Thurlow's own words).

Evidently Thurlow ...
  Topic: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 34
Views: 29017

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:32 pm   Subject: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Thanks, Navy_Navy_Navy--that thread is fascinating.
However, it doesn't answer the question about any bronze star for Larry Thurlow (in fact the question is asked but left unanswered as to whether or ...
  Topic: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 34
Views: 29017

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 4:24 am   Subject: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Perhaps this will help? http://www.lib.umich.edu/govdocs/jfkeo/eo/11046.htm

That's a valuable resource document, certainly, but while it seems to hint that presence of an opposing military force a ...
  Topic: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 34
Views: 29017

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:25 pm   Subject: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Hi leftknee, and thanks for the additional info.

Respecting the awarding of bronze stars, do I understand rightly that active enemy fire isn't much of a requirement after all?

Is the issue then ...
  Topic: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 34
Views: 29017

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 2:48 am   Subject: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Thanks for responding, ASPB.

If the preventative machine-gun fire was not in response to actual enemy fire, then I remain unable to explain how the absence of enemy fire would make Kerry's medal un ...
  Topic: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 34
Views: 29017

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 8:53 pm   Subject: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Okay, from reading some other threads I've got a theory that might establish a proper rationale for Thurlow's medal while leaving doubt as to the deservedness of Kerry's:

When the mine disabled the ...
  Topic: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Ijon Tichy

Replies: 34
Views: 29017

PostForum: Resources & Research   Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2004 4:30 pm   Subject: Thurlow, Kerry, Bronze Stars
Hi, I'm new to this discussion board and I'm not a veteran of the armed services (respect and props to those of you who are).

One particular allegation regarding the Kerry bronze star incident seem ...
 
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