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[PowerPro]

All evening I've heard stories that maybe the soldiers in the 101st didn't actually inspect the compound, etc. and the new New York Slimes story coming out tomorrow makes it look like the commander of the 101st agreed with them.

So apparently the troops accidentally tripped over the atropine while on their "pit stop".

Well, sorry New York Slimes. This is the record.

Let's get this report off to EVERYONE in the media and show Jean Francois Kerre for the opportunistic loser that he is!!!

Archives are our friends. )



Allies Find Signs of Iraq's Chemical Preparedness
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83252,00.html

Friday, April 04, 2003 - AP

On Friday (April 4, 2003), troops at a training facility in the western Iraqi desert came across a bottle labeled "tabun" -- a nerve gas and chemical weapon Iraq is banned from possessing.

Closer to Baghdad, troops at Iraq's largest military industrial complex found nerve agent antidotes, documents describing chemical warfare and a white powder that appeared to be used for explosives.

U.N. weapons inspectors went repeatedly to the vast al Qa Qaa complex -- most recently on March 8 (2003) -- but found nothing during spot visits to some of the 1,100 buildings at the site 25 miles south of Baghdad.

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Peabody told an Associated Press reporter that troops at al Qa Qaa also discovered atropine, used to counter the effects of nerve agents, and 2-PAM chloride, which is used in combination with atropine in case of chemical attack.

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(Excerpt) Read more at http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83252,00.html


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Okay - hopefully I'm the first here to post this - if not, I apologize! I did a search and didn't see a specfic thread regarding a full rebuttal to the New York Slimes article ...

I posted this also on Free Republic on this thread:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1258235/posts
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[ord33]

powerpro,

That was a good find. I dont know how to react to it though...Perhaps the comment about the UN Weapons Inspectors not finding anything was referring to WMD? I dont know. Then the article says that American Troops did find thousands of 2x5 boxes with white powder (the explosives). After reading this, I dont know if this is such a good article after all, but I could be wrong!

[drjohn]

They were actually there on March 9 also but they weren't looking for any of that stuff.

In fact, they last counted on 25 Dec 2002, maybe.

After that, nothing. It could easily have been taken between then and the war. They'd never know.

[jerake]

This just recently got posted about an hour ago(I think it's the same article? I could be wrong)

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/002872.php

[PowerPro]

So RDX and HMX is so dangerous now but it wasn't dangerous then? Supposedly this stuff is not like shells or regular bombs - it's much more dangerous, right? Wouldn't the article mention other highly explosive ordnance being there?

Plus this article clearly shows it might have been a "pit stop" for the 101st but the that the site was searched by the 3rd ID (at the minimum) and that they did not view it as a high security risk as it was...
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[azpatriot]

For those of you wondering just what this stuff is here is a link that explains the differences.

Explosives - Nitramines
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[PowerPro]

[PowerPro]

Thank you AZPATRIOT - I was wondering...
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[drjohn]

Gee- before the war they weren't dangerous because they were

"DUAL-USE"

[LewWaters]

Anyone else considering the logistics involved in "looting" 380 tons?

For sake of argument, say a semi truck carries 10 tons each. We're talking 38 semis or more rolling up to a fence, getting in and quietly driving off with the stuff, unnoticed.
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[PowerPro]

And the New York Slimes story continues to unravel:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/26/223708.shtml

Feb. 2003 UN Report: Saddam Moving Explosives From Al-Qaqaa

The United Nations nuclear watchdog group first reported that Saddam Hussein had begun moving stockpiles of explosives from his Al-Qaqaa nuclear weapons facility a month before the U.S. invaded Iraq.

The February 2003 report by the International Atomic Energy Agency, first reported Tuesday by the Fox News Channel, severely undermines claims by the New York Times, CBS News and the Kerry campaign that the Al-Qaqaa explosives went missing only after the U.S. gained control of the facility.

Fox correspondent Bret Baier detailed the chronology of events at Al-Qaqaa for "Special Report with Brit Hume":
* "In January 2003, inspectors with the International Atomic Energy Agency went to the Al-Qaqaa storage facility, tagging and sealing the large stockpile of powerful conventional explosives, HMX and RDX.

* "In February 2003, IEAE chief Mohamed ElBaradei reported to the United Nations Security Council that some explosives had been removed from Al Qua Quaa - 377 tons remained.

* "On March 8, 2003, IEAE inspectors made their last check of the facility before the war. The IAEA said that included a spot check on some - but not all - of the sealed explosives.

* "The war started March 19. After the Army's third division moved through here on their way to Baghdad, the first US troops stopped in to Al-Qaqaa on April 9.

* "A Reuters camera crew embedded with the Scouts from the 101st Airborne Division arrived at the storage facility, did a quick search noting a number of bunkers filled with explosives - but nothing marked by the IAEA.

* "On April 10, the Second Brigade of the 101st arrived there and spent the night.. An NBC crew was with them. A cursory search was conducted. Again, nothing marked or tagged by the IAEA was spotted. The Second Brigade left the next day, pushing forward to Baghdad.

* "US weapons inspectors, the Iraq Survey Group, arrived at the site on May 27, conducting a full search of the 32 bunkers - and they did not find any of the IAEA-marked explosives."

Baier's report continued:

"If one large truck contains ten tons, US commanders say it's highly unlikely that insurgents managed to take 38 truckloads worth of explosives out of the facility in that time.

"The roads were filled with convoys pushing to Baghdad, clogged with supplies and communications lines stretching all the way back to Kuwait - all being watched closely by unmanned aerial vehicles like the Jointstars and the Predators to protect the troops rear flank and to spot unusual activity.

"Defense Secretary Rumsfeld - asked about the missing explosives in a radio interview today - said the specifics are under investigation by the Iraq Survey Group. But he chose to point out that Saddam Hussein moved many weapons and explosives before the war."
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[stylin19]

Drjohn was way ahead of us. He had the Fox article on 10/25....

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14541
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