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NavyChief Rear Admiral
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 2:13 am Post subject: HANOI urged U.S. activists to run for Congress!!! |
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I've been asked by the author of the newest article on Kerry's Communist ties to make sure this story gets out there with the others.
Please get this to all the media types and bloggers!!!!
Here's the link: Is Kerry the Manchurian Candidate?
and text:
MISSION: IMPLAUSIBLE
Hanoi urged U.S. activists to run for office
Kerry mirrored documented plan to 'plant progressive people'
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Posted: October 30, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Art Moore
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
One of three newly discovered Vietnam War documents shows Hanoi's communist regime encouraged the U.S. anti-war movement's new strategy in the early 1970s of urging members to run for public office, a path John Kerry took when he vied for a congressional seat in 1972.
John Kerry, with former wife Julia Thorne, after his primary victory in 1972 congressional race (Photo: Boston Globe)
Hanoi said it maintained "relations" with an anti-war group closely tied to Kerry that sought "to eliminate reactionary candidates and plant progressive people in the Senate and House of Representatives," according to a "circular" issued in December 1971 and captured by U.S. troops the following May.
The document, noting that the U.S. anti-war movements have received "assistance and guidance" from Vietnamese communist delegations, outlines the strategy of the radical U.S. group People's Coalition for Peace and Justice, or PCPJ. That organization was tied to Kerry through Al Hubbard, a coordinating PCPJ member who also served as executive director of Vietnam Veterans Against the War while the future senator was its national spokesman and an executive committee member. The PCPJ also shared office space and conducted joint activities with the VVAW.
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"Through its activities," the document says, "we can see that the PCPJ has made progress in its newly-adopted policy lines with the following strategic alteration:"
The first point in the strategy reads:
"To gain success in struggles, it is necessary to strengthen internal unity, contact other associations, other social classes, and influential personalities and take part in ((U.S. congressional)) elections (instead of boycotting them), to eliminate reactionary candidates and plant progressive people in the Senate and House of Representatives."
The document is one of three related to Kerry and the anti-war movement that have surfaced among the millions at the Vietnam Archive at Texas Tech University at Lubbock. The collection was assembled by the late scholar Douglas Pike and now is under the supevision of Stephen Maxner, who confirmed the authenticity of the documents.
The papers help piece together a picture of Hanoi's evolving understanding that the delegations of North Vietnamese and Viet Cong leaders sent to the Paris peace talks offered the regime the opportunity to coordinate with the anti-war movement and influence U.S. politics from within.
As WorldNetDaily reported Tuesday, two documents provide the first concrete evidence that Vietnamese communists were directing Kerry's VVAW.
A third document [pdf file] provides more context, showing that Kerry's July 1971 press conference calling on President Nixon to accept the seven-point plan presented by Viet Cong leader Madame Nguyen Thi Binh was perfectly aligned with Hanoi's step-by-step agenda.
In 1972, as a nationally known figure, Kerry ran unsuccessfully for Congress in the fifth district of Massachusetts after a spate of "district hopping" – making his home in three other districts in a span of only two months.
A Boston Globe series last year recounting his life said: "The 28-year-old activist believed Congress was the logical extension of his activism to end the Vietnam War. He was ready to leave the streets to work within what some fellow protesters scorned as 'the system.'"
Jerome Corsi – a specialist on the Vietnam-era anti-war movement who first identified the significance of the newly discovered documents – recognizes that Kerry's political ambitions surfaced even before he formally joined the anti-war movement.
In March 1970, a few months before joining VVAW, he enter a congressional race then dropped out to make way for anti-war activist Fr. Robert F. Drinan, for whom he later served as campaign chairman.
But Corsi points out that Kerry's career path was in line with Hanoi's agenda.
"Kerry is following along with the plan, putting a pacifist, sympathetic to communist objectives, into a position where he can vote to advance their objectives and aims," said Corsi, who also is co-author of "Unfit for Command," the best-seller challenging Kerry's qualification to lead the nation.
Corsi said that in "Unfit for Command," we saw all the behavior – we knew what Kerry was doing – we just never had the documentation that showed the consistent planning behind the scenes, showing that Hanoi was fully aware of what the anti-war movement was doing and how they could direct it, guide it and apply it to their own propaganda purposes, both within Vietnam and internationally."
Corsi said he does not want to cast Kerry as a "Manchurian Candidate," referring to the 1962 film in which North Korea captures a group of American soldiers and brainwashes them into becoming sleeper agents.
But Corsi believes Kerry crossed a line, promoting a movement that aligned its goals with a communist regime bent on the defeat of the United States.
"Legitimate protest still intends to do service to the U.S.," Corsi explained. "It argues about the ways, means and goals, but never loses loyalty."
But a subversive movement, he said, adopts aims that hurt the United States and "wants our enemy to win."
Corsi finds this particularly relevant today as Kerry espouses normalizing relations with a radical Iranian regime that apparently is wielding influence through Iranian-American donors to his campaign.
"America has lost an appreciation for the dangers of true subversion," Corsi said. "In the 1950s, we understood sabotage from the enemy within as being distinct from legitimate, robust protest against the government."
With respect to Iran, he said, "We have to be very concerned that our internal politics is not subverted by a rogue regime trying to buy public relations to convince the Amerian public that they are not a threat."
As WorldNetDaily reported, Kerry's chief Iranian-American fund-raiser repudiated Kerry's policy of accommodation toward Tehran, declaring the Islamic regime should not be trusted with nuclear materials.
Hassan Nemazee, 54, a New York investment banker and former board member of a pro-Tehran lobby, said under oath in a lawsuit deposition that if Kerry had asked him his view of the Iranian regime, he would have said it should be trusted with no other intention than to build nuclear weapons.
- Chief _________________ Working with Senator Kerry four years in the POW/MIA Office left me thinking -- when did the man ever do any work? |
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twicearound PO2
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Work on it in the morning _________________ twicearound |
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wpage Lieutenant
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This is really starting to add up more and more. Like I have always thought, Kerry is truly evil. Corsi and whomever is helping him, has written another fine article in piecing this story together. Thanks Chief.
William Page _________________ B Co. 2/5th, 1st Cav 71-72 RVN (11B) also
D Co. 1/12th, 1st Cav 1972 RVN (11B)
Battle of Kontum 1972 Easter Offensive
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Quote: | Corsi said he does not want to cast Kerry as a "Manchurian Candidate," referring to the 1962 film in which North Korea captures a group of American soldiers and brainwashes them into becoming sleeper agents. |
I agree: Kerry went into this with his eyes wide open, with full knowledge of what he was doing and what he wants to do. Brainwashing unnecessary. _________________ Everytime he had a choice, Kerry chose to side with communists rather than the United States. |
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GeorgiaBoy Seaman Apprentice
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Kerry should be in handcuffs right now |
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lrb111 Captain
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The little piece that riled me worse than anything else, happened during the testimony to the commisssion..
After having been educated to a fair degree, I reread the testtimony for Fulbright's Follies.
Bear in mind they are listening to someone with no political track record. One of the commision comments how proud they are of him, and that they are sure he will join them as a senator some day.
That was the payoff for the whole pack of lies. Planned and delivered.
It is very telling to read only the commision member's comments. Same as reading only kerry's. There are themes throughout. _________________ said Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "It is inexcusable to mock service and sacrifice."
well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast. |
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2ndamendsis PO3
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No..........kerry should be in a bamboo cage
deep under a rice paddy
You done good CHIEF _________________ PROUD wife of Army ASA Vet - 66-70
mom of Sailor - Gulf 1
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drjohn Senior Chief Petty Officer
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If not for Fulhalfbright and (hick) Kennedy Kerry would be serving time right now.... |
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KWJams Seaman Recruit
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Quote: | The so-called "Islamic" republic of Iran is seeking from Mr. Kerry a series of concessions that would allow them to become a nuclear weapons power and circumvent the restrictions of the USA Patriot act to infiltrate intelligence agents and potential terrorists into the United States.
How could Mr. Kerry and Mr. Edwards, who claim to be able to defend America better than President Bush, allow themselves to fall into such a trap? Top Kerry and Edwards advisers warned both candidates against accepting campaign donations from people with close ties to mullahs in Tehran months ago, sources inside their respective campaigns say. And yet, neither Mr. Kerry nor Mr. Edwards has done anything to distance himself from these donors. On the contrary, both have continued to take their money and promote their agenda.
Mr. Kerry adopted a key element of that agenda in last week's presidential debate. If president, he said he would have "offered the opportunity to provide the nuclear fuel" to Iran, to "test them, see whether or not they were actually looking for it for peaceful purposes." Mr. Kerry's words brought comfort to Tehran's top mullahs, who have been seeking to buy time from the international community for the past two years while they continue perfecting their nuclear weapons capabilities. |
... Read More http://www.krsi.net/news/Default.asp?PgNum=2#794 |
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GeorgiaBoy Seaman Apprentice
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After close review of all of the documents, articles and posts pertaining to the Kerry/Hanoi matter. I can only logically conclude that the Vietnam War has not ended. Kerry got US to pull out of Vietnam, but it's obvious now that the communists are still waging the war 30+ years later. It's time to end this war and give our boys the parade they never had. |
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 10:01 am Post subject: Re: HANOI urged U.S. activists to run for Congress!!! |
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NavyChief wrote: | I've been asked by the author of the newest article on Kerry's Communist ties to make sure this story gets out there with the others.
Please get this to all the media types and bloggers!!!!
Here's the link: Is Kerry the Manchurian Candidate?
and text:
MISSION: IMPLAUSIBLE
Hanoi urged U.S. activists to run for office
Kerry mirrored documented plan to 'plant progressive people'
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Posted: October 30, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Art Moore
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
One of three newly discovered Vietnam War documents shows Hanoi's communist regime encouraged the U.S. anti-war movement's new strategy in the early 1970s of urging members to run for public office, a path John Kerry took when he vied for a congressional seat in 1972.
John Kerry, with former wife Julia Thorne, after his primary victory in 1972 congressional race (Photo: Boston Globe)
Hanoi said it maintained "relations" with an anti-war group closely tied to Kerry that sought "to eliminate reactionary candidates and plant progressive people in the Senate and House of Representatives," according to a "circular" issued in December 1971 and captured by U.S. troops the following May.
The document, noting that the U.S. anti-war movements have received "assistance and guidance" from Vietnamese communist delegations, outlines the strategy of the radical U.S. group People's Coalition for Peace and Justice, or PCPJ. That organization was tied to Kerry through Al Hubbard, a coordinating PCPJ member who also served as executive director of Vietnam Veterans Against the War while the future senator was its national spokesman and an executive committee member. The PCPJ also shared office space and conducted joint activities with the VVAW.
SPONSORED LINKS
"Through its activities," the document says, "we can see that the PCPJ has made progress in its newly-adopted policy lines with the following strategic alteration:"
The first point in the strategy reads:
"To gain success in struggles, it is necessary to strengthen internal unity, contact other associations, other social classes, and influential personalities and take part in ((U.S. congressional)) elections (instead of boycotting them), to eliminate reactionary candidates and plant progressive people in the Senate and House of Representatives."
The document is one of three related to Kerry and the anti-war movement that have surfaced among the millions at the Vietnam Archive at Texas Tech University at Lubbock. The collection was assembled by the late scholar Douglas Pike and now is under the supevision of Stephen Maxner, who confirmed the authenticity of the documents.
The papers help piece together a picture of Hanoi's evolving understanding that the delegations of North Vietnamese and Viet Cong leaders sent to the Paris peace talks offered the regime the opportunity to coordinate with the anti-war movement and influence U.S. politics from within.
As WorldNetDaily reported Tuesday, two documents provide the first concrete evidence that Vietnamese communists were directing Kerry's VVAW.
A third document [pdf file] provides more context, showing that Kerry's July 1971 press conference calling on President Nixon to accept the seven-point plan presented by Viet Cong leader Madame Nguyen Thi Binh was perfectly aligned with Hanoi's step-by-step agenda.
In 1972, as a nationally known figure, Kerry ran unsuccessfully for Congress in the fifth district of Massachusetts after a spate of "district hopping" – making his home in three other districts in a span of only two months.
A Boston Globe series last year recounting his life said: "The 28-year-old activist believed Congress was the logical extension of his activism to end the Vietnam War. He was ready to leave the streets to work within what some fellow protesters scorned as 'the system.'"
Jerome Corsi – a specialist on the Vietnam-era anti-war movement who first identified the significance of the newly discovered documents – recognizes that Kerry's political ambitions surfaced even before he formally joined the anti-war movement.
In March 1970, a few months before joining VVAW, he enter a congressional race then dropped out to make way for anti-war activist Fr. Robert F. Drinan, for whom he later served as campaign chairman.
But Corsi points out that Kerry's career path was in line with Hanoi's agenda.
"Kerry is following along with the plan, putting a pacifist, sympathetic to communist objectives, into a position where he can vote to advance their objectives and aims," said Corsi, who also is co-author of "Unfit for Command," the best-seller challenging Kerry's qualification to lead the nation.
Corsi said that in "Unfit for Command," we saw all the behavior – we knew what Kerry was doing – we just never had the documentation that showed the consistent planning behind the scenes, showing that Hanoi was fully aware of what the anti-war movement was doing and how they could direct it, guide it and apply it to their own propaganda purposes, both within Vietnam and internationally."
Corsi said he does not want to cast Kerry as a "Manchurian Candidate," referring to the 1962 film in which North Korea captures a group of American soldiers and brainwashes them into becoming sleeper agents.
But Corsi believes Kerry crossed a line, promoting a movement that aligned its goals with a communist regime bent on the defeat of the United States.
"Legitimate protest still intends to do service to the U.S.," Corsi explained. "It argues about the ways, means and goals, but never loses loyalty."
But a subversive movement, he said, adopts aims that hurt the United States and "wants our enemy to win."
Corsi finds this particularly relevant today as Kerry espouses normalizing relations with a radical Iranian regime that apparently is wielding influence through Iranian-American donors to his campaign.
"America has lost an appreciation for the dangers of true subversion," Corsi said. "In the 1950s, we understood sabotage from the enemy within as being distinct from legitimate, robust protest against the government."
With respect to Iran, he said, "We have to be very concerned that our internal politics is not subverted by a rogue regime trying to buy public relations to convince the Amerian public that they are not a threat."
As WorldNetDaily reported, Kerry's chief Iranian-American fund-raiser repudiated Kerry's policy of accommodation toward Tehran, declaring the Islamic regime should not be trusted with nuclear materials.
Hassan Nemazee, 54, a New York investment banker and former board member of a pro-Tehran lobby, said under oath in a lawsuit deposition that if Kerry had asked him his view of the Iranian regime, he would have said it should be trusted with no other intention than to build nuclear weapons.
- Chief |
I'm e-mailing to as many as possible.....please note: I'm sure George Soros would agree, I saw him on a cspan special yesterday, he's got like a bizillion dollars invested in Iran.
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avant Ensign
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2004 11:59 am Post subject: Re: HANOI urged U.S. activists to run for Congress!!! |
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kimberly wrote: | NavyChief wrote: | I've been asked by the author of the newest article on Kerry's Communist ties to make sure this story gets out there with the others.
Please get this to all the media types and bloggers!!!!
Here's the link: Is Kerry the Manchurian Candidate?
and text:
MISSION: IMPLAUSIBLE
Hanoi urged U.S. activists to run for office
Kerry mirrored documented plan to 'plant progressive people'
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Posted: October 30, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Art Moore
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com
One of three newly discovered Vietnam War documents shows Hanoi's communist regime encouraged the U.S. anti-war movement's new strategy in the early 1970s of urging members to run for public office, a path John Kerry took when he vied for a congressional seat in 1972.
John Kerry, with former wife Julia Thorne, after his primary victory in 1972 congressional race (Photo: Boston Globe)
Hanoi said it maintained "relations" with an anti-war group closely tied to Kerry that sought "to eliminate reactionary candidates and plant progressive people in the Senate and House of Representatives," according to a "circular" issued in December 1971 and captured by U.S. troops the following May.
The document, noting that the U.S. anti-war movements have received "assistance and guidance" from Vietnamese communist delegations, outlines the strategy of the radical U.S. group People's Coalition for Peace and Justice, or PCPJ. That organization was tied to Kerry through Al Hubbard, a coordinating PCPJ member who also served as executive director of Vietnam Veterans Against the War while the future senator was its national spokesman and an executive committee member. The PCPJ also shared office space and conducted joint activities with the VVAW.
SPONSORED LINKS
"Through its activities," the document says, "we can see that the PCPJ has made progress in its newly-adopted policy lines with the following strategic alteration:"
The first point in the strategy reads:
"To gain success in struggles, it is necessary to strengthen internal unity, contact other associations, other social classes, and influential personalities and take part in ((U.S. congressional)) elections (instead of boycotting them), to eliminate reactionary candidates and plant progressive people in the Senate and House of Representatives."
The document is one of three related to Kerry and the anti-war movement that have surfaced among the millions at the Vietnam Archive at Texas Tech University at Lubbock. The collection was assembled by the late scholar Douglas Pike and now is under the supevision of Stephen Maxner, who confirmed the authenticity of the documents.
The papers help piece together a picture of Hanoi's evolving understanding that the delegations of North Vietnamese and Viet Cong leaders sent to the Paris peace talks offered the regime the opportunity to coordinate with the anti-war movement and influence U.S. politics from within.
As WorldNetDaily reported Tuesday, two documents provide the first concrete evidence that Vietnamese communists were directing Kerry's VVAW.
A third document [pdf file] provides more context, showing that Kerry's July 1971 press conference calling on President Nixon to accept the seven-point plan presented by Viet Cong leader Madame Nguyen Thi Binh was perfectly aligned with Hanoi's step-by-step agenda.
In 1972, as a nationally known figure, Kerry ran unsuccessfully for Congress in the fifth district of Massachusetts after a spate of "district hopping" – making his home in three other districts in a span of only two months.
A Boston Globe series last year recounting his life said: "The 28-year-old activist believed Congress was the logical extension of his activism to end the Vietnam War. He was ready to leave the streets to work within what some fellow protesters scorned as 'the system.'"
Jerome Corsi – a specialist on the Vietnam-era anti-war movement who first identified the significance of the newly discovered documents – recognizes that Kerry's political ambitions surfaced even before he formally joined the anti-war movement.
In March 1970, a few months before joining VVAW, he enter a congressional race then dropped out to make way for anti-war activist Fr. Robert F. Drinan, for whom he later served as campaign chairman.
But Corsi points out that Kerry's career path was in line with Hanoi's agenda.
"Kerry is following along with the plan, putting a pacifist, sympathetic to communist objectives, into a position where he can vote to advance their objectives and aims," said Corsi, who also is co-author of "Unfit for Command," the best-seller challenging Kerry's qualification to lead the nation.
Corsi said that in "Unfit for Command," we saw all the behavior – we knew what Kerry was doing – we just never had the documentation that showed the consistent planning behind the scenes, showing that Hanoi was fully aware of what the anti-war movement was doing and how they could direct it, guide it and apply it to their own propaganda purposes, both within Vietnam and internationally."
Corsi said he does not want to cast Kerry as a "Manchurian Candidate," referring to the 1962 film in which North Korea captures a group of American soldiers and brainwashes them into becoming sleeper agents.
But Corsi believes Kerry crossed a line, promoting a movement that aligned its goals with a communist regime bent on the defeat of the United States.
"Legitimate protest still intends to do service to the U.S.," Corsi explained. "It argues about the ways, means and goals, but never loses loyalty."
But a subversive movement, he said, adopts aims that hurt the United States and "wants our enemy to win."
Corsi finds this particularly relevant today as Kerry espouses normalizing relations with a radical Iranian regime that apparently is wielding influence through Iranian-American donors to his campaign.
"America has lost an appreciation for the dangers of true subversion," Corsi said. "In the 1950s, we understood sabotage from the enemy within as being distinct from legitimate, robust protest against the government."
With respect to Iran, he said, "We have to be very concerned that our internal politics is not subverted by a rogue regime trying to buy public relations to convince the Amerian public that they are not a threat."
As WorldNetDaily reported, Kerry's chief Iranian-American fund-raiser repudiated Kerry's policy of accommodation toward Tehran, declaring the Islamic regime should not be trusted with nuclear materials.
Hassan Nemazee, 54, a New York investment banker and former board member of a pro-Tehran lobby, said under oath in a lawsuit deposition that if Kerry had asked him his view of the Iranian regime, he would have said it should be trusted with no other intention than to build nuclear weapons.
- Chief |
I'm e-mailing to as many as possible.....please note: I'm sure George Soros would agree, I saw him on a cspan special yesterday, he's got like a bizillion dollars invested in Iran.
Kimberly |
Kimberly: I agree, Soros does have tons of money invested in Iran and so do many others. Is it me, or is the accent of that "Assman the American" (or whatever he calls himself) and Iranian accent? I believe it is.
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GeorgiaBoy Seaman Apprentice
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I don't mean to rock the boat but I have to. This morning's polls at realclearpolitics.com continue to show Kerry gaining, in fact surging. This election my friends is breaking towards Kerry on the heels of the terror tapes.
It is now or never, waiting and waiting to be slaughtered is not going to get it, it's probably already too late. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm not accustomed to just sitting around waiting to be slaughtered. Either the "Powers to Be" make their strategy known or at least communicate in a convincing manner why we should continue to stand down or I say we do something NOW, with or without them.
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Tom Poole Vice Admiral
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GeorgiaBoy wrote: | ...I'm not accustomed to just sitting around waiting to be slaughtered.... |
I too have little patience and my attitude is in the crapper right now. I've opted to "stand down" out of deference to the Chief (who BTW owes no one an apology). However, as I've posted elsewhere, patience is finite. I guess mine will run out early tomorrow, perhaps as late as noon. At that time, I don't know what I'll do but my attitude is dropping like the polls. Our enemies have placed our country in great peril and something must be done. _________________ '58 Airedale HMR(L)-261 VMO-2 |
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