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nakona · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 242

Can we just say it in plain english?

Michael Moore is a Jackass. Plain and simple.
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Tony · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:04 am Post subject:

LOL...yeah..what he said. Very Happy

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tigerflyboy · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:21 am Post subject:

Goophy Dog great points, No as I try to say to all of you I am not a micheal moore fan, a democrat or any of the other colorful names some on this board like to refer to me as. I went to see the movie to... make my own decisions.

No I am not hiding, I do have other things to do beside post here I'm in school and working part as I get called in so it may be time between post. I have been researching as I can I have confirmed that Karzi was not ainvolved with unocal while as Bandit posted, the ambassador was (kalihid??)

I posted the infor about the business of "W" and have found no information to disprove what I said. As for Nakona, no I don't have to provide you anything, I do my research for myself, and pass information on as I get it. You have made statement in your post that You have not see fit to provide any.. Documentation so why do I need to bow to you??
As for the other points I am actively searching and will post information either way for or against.
As I said I not here to preach the virtues of Michael Moore, and if you give me information that backs up your point you are doing exactly what I am looking for.
Yes Moore is a flawed individual and not all of his points are factual, but soem are. I just looking for the truth.

nakona · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 242

waltjones · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:29 pm Post subject:

Here is the best debunking of Propaganda 9/11 to date. It's remarkable how similar Micheal Moore's methods are to those of Joseph Goebbels; remember him? tigerflyboy, pay close attention; I know it's unlikely, but you actually might learn something. Semper Fi!

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm
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War Dog · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 4:29 pm Post subject:

nakona is 100% correct. When a member post statements, quotes, comments, accusations, etc..., it is his/her responsibility to prove those correct. If he/she cannot prove that what they have said by providing links to verify his/her statements, quotes, comments, accusations, etc..., then they are to only be considered as personal opinion, and could or couldn't be believed or judged to be truthful or lies by the reader.

Therefore, Tigerboy, either provide links to sites that prove your comments to be true, or this thread will be deleted. And this goes for all members here, please provide links to prove any statements, quotes, comments, and accusations that you consider as truth, and not your opinion!

By Moderator!
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Doc Jerry · Commander Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 339

Tony:

Great piece. You and I have a lot in common. Eastern European born. Came here when I was 2. My parents were broke, but managed to make a decent living and thanked the good Lord every day of their life that they were able to live in the greatest country on God's green earth.

But Moore wouldn't understand that. If his kind were in charge, Poland, Hungary, and the other Eastern European States would still be flying the Soviet flag. In fact, he'd probably prefer that anyway.

nakona · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 242

Wardog -

Nah... leave it up as an example to the other nippleheads from D.U.
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cgc · Seaman Recruit Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 47

Looks like I'm screwed! I only post my opinions, I don't think its necessary, unless you are posting something outrageous and or way out of wack to post links, strings, articles, other quotes, references to speeches, articles in mags and newspapers, references to letters to the editors, overheard conversations, dreams, and besides,what does it all prove anyway. They in turn are nothing more than someone else's opinion. I read and digest what I have read,and maybe research and make sure it not ********. But it's not in my opinion necessary to provide a link, or someones else's quote or book to substaniate what I believe. ******** is ********, I don't need a link to see that.

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cgc · Seaman Recruit Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 47

And opinions are the basis for debate, debate is healthy, someone providing me a link or a site to go find the "truth" in my opinion does not necessary believe in his or her opinion. And before you fire all your guns and tell me how wrong I am, its just my opinion and I can't provide any links or websites to back me up.
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GoophyDog · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject:

CGC - opinion is great and as you've said doesn't need a link.

However, the first post in this chain was to "disprove these facts" yet the poster failed to note where he got those "facts". In a case like that yes, links to back up those "facts" were necessary and as later posts showed, were not really "facts" but opinions and the result of more spin than reality.

I do agree with you 100% when posting up opinions or speculation, links are not necessary however when one posts up purported "facts" a link or reference should be included if for no other reason than common courtesy.

Tony · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Tony, great piece

nakona · Lieutenant Joined: 04 Jun 2004 Posts: 242

CG -

You can post up as many opinions as you want, and I'll debate ideas with you.

But people who come in here spouting a bunch of Left Wing Propaganda and asserting it as FACT, are going to need to support it.

Hell...
So would someone spouting right wing propaganda.
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War Dog · Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 11:52 pm Post subject:

cgc, notice I said statements, quotes, comments, accusations, etc. and not opinions. You are more than welcome to post all your opinions here, but don't be surprised if someone asks you to prove what your opinions are based upon, or if you say that 'so and so' did this or did that, then you must provide a link to prove that what you said is the truth, and not just political propaganda, false accustions, statements, quotes, etc...

Jump on in!

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DevilDon · Lt.Jg. Joined: 16 May 2004 Posts: 102 Location: Milwaukee

I think everyone knows you're welcome to throw all kinds of opinions around here. I've seen some refreshing and embarrassing opinions as they go. But when you start to call your opinion fact, then you'll be called to the carpet.

It has been several people's way of communicating here.....calling their beliefs or misconceptions or viewpoints facts and then not backing them up as facts. Fact: John Kerry testified against the veterans of the United States of America, he did give aid and comfort to the enemy of this nation and he has no right to run for the position of Commander in Chief. Opinion: John Kerry is really a self-involved idiot who think of nothing else than his own personal agenda and he will be one of the biggest mistakes this nation has made if they elect him to office.

See? One is indisputable, the other disputable. I can guarantee you can post both here. But if you post opinion as fact, that shows either ignorance or arrogance and you'll be in the spotlight and asked to prove it. Without supporting links or documents, I think it's right to remove your comments, they are neither worthwhile nor helpful to anybody.