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NEWSWEEK's exclusive-Chapter Six (Swift Boats)

 
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Mary Ann Parker
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: NEWSWEEK's exclusive-Chapter Six (Swift Boats) Reply with quote

Get to Newsweek. (buy a copy)
You are now certifiable. FAMOUS!!!
A force to be dealt with!
Go Swiftrees.
Mary Ann Parker
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6414892/site/newsweek/



NEWSWEEK's exclusive, behind-the-scenes account of the presidential campaign
• Introduction
• Chapter One: The Primaries
• Chapter Two: Bush's Inner Circle
• Chapter Three: Kerry Gets Cranky
• Chapter Four: The Prison Scandal
• Chapter Five: The Bush Daughters (Live Saturday)
• Chapter Six: Swift Boats (Live Saturday) Arrow
• Chapter Seven: The Debates (Live Sunday)
• Chapter Eight: The Endgame (Live Sunday)
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granny23
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2004 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is an interesting bit from Part 6 of the Newsweek article, linked in post above.

Edwards played along, but his aides were indignant. They warned the veep candidate that the story was already out of control and about to get worse. Historian Douglas Brinkley, author of a wartime biography of Kerry, cautioned that Kerry's diary included mention of a meeting with some North Vietnamese terrorists in Paris. Edwards was flabbergasted. "Let me get this straight," the senator said. "He met with terrorists? Oh, that's good."
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like the Democrats spent as much time fighting with each other as they did campaigning against The President. Can you imagine what kind of a government they would have formed?

As it is said of those times

In answer to questions which nobody asked
They fought with the future and thought in the past
They created some names and a like number of factions
saying"We're not responsible for each others actions"

The catchwords and diatribes and platitudes flew
But all were bombed out when talk came to do
For this one had this thing and that one had that
and around in committees everyone sat

And when came the time for decisions to be made
Each did his best the problem to evade

Sounds like politics as usual Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Historian Douglas Brinkley, author of a wartime biography of Kerry, cautioned [Edwards] that Kerry's diary included mention of a meeting with some North Vietnamese terrorists in Paris. Edwards was flabbergasted. "Let me get this straight," the senator said. "He met with terrorists? Oh, that's good."


Terrorists? Terrorists? How typical for the uninitiated to grab a comparatively new term and apply it to the past. Have they forgotten about communists. Oh, I forgot, "communists" is sooooo '60s and they weren't so bad in retrospect.

I'll never understand democrats.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Newsweek report is quite revealing regarding the disarray and mismanagement of the Kerry campaign but it is still biased against the Swift Vets.

For example:

"The Kerry campaign did work closely with the major dailies, feeding documents to The New York Times, The Washington Post and The Boston Globe to debunk the Swift Boat vets. The articles were mostly (though not entirely) supportive of Kerry, but it was too late. The old media may have been more responsible than the new media, but they were also largely irrelevant."

Or this:

Discussing Kerry's first wife, Julia Thorne, "[s]he could remember how Kerry had suffered in Vietnam; she had seen the scars on his body, heard him cry out at night in his nightmares." Given that Kerry served a very short period of time and had received no injuries that required missing any duty, one has to wonder about reports of "scars" and "nightmares" that were apparently accepted by the Newsweek reporters at face value.
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Schadow
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Discussing Kerry's first wife, Julia Thorne, "[s]he could remember how Kerry had suffered in Vietnam; she had seen the scars on his body, heard him cry out at night in his nightmares."


During the DNC convention, some speaker noted that Kerry still carried 'schrapnel' in his body. That probably refers to the utterly dumb incident of Kerry firing a grenade into a bin of rice and failing to hit the ground in time to avoid getting hit. This was commonly called "The Brown Rice Incident" by people who were there. A lot of time was spent picking rice out of Kerry's posterior and a small fragment of the grenade may have been overlooked. Oh, yes, he got a PH for that.

As far as nightmares are concerned, they were probably due to the sheer terror Kerry felt when Swift boats were assigned river patrol and he realized he might actually get shot, thus beginning the mad dash to get out.

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