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What ever happened to the old spirit of win and loose? A candidate wins a candidate looses and we all move on until the next election? Why deliberate over a loss when it is over? Should I suspect you depend on the government to think for you so you do not have to?

Where were you when I was campaining for President Bush? Where were you when I supported the Swift Vets and POWS for Truth? Where were you when I began this blog to voice my point of view for others to read in my effort to educate the left from the misconceptions spewed by them? Where were you?

I know for a fact you did not campaign for Kerry. I know for a fact you did not support the Swift Vets and POWS for Truth. I know you did not begin a blog to put your views out here for others to read in an effort to educate the right from the misconceptions spewed against them. While you were knowhere I was here.

The most I know you did was complain about the war in Iraq, our President, even questioning his motives for going into Iraq. I listened while you insulted Donald Rumsfeld and listened to the media lies about our Vice-President Cheney. I know you spent money to go see Michael Moores's "Farenheit 9/11". I know you listened to the Michael Moore's and the main stream media, but you would not listen to sound reasoning.

While you were talking the talk, I walked the walk like so many other American's did. I suggest to you instead of whinning and feeling sorry for yourself that Kerry lost, the next time elections roll around you get out there and walk the walk.

The time has come when one must wake up and smell the coffee. I am tired of all your sick talking points that only make sense to a moron. I have lost my patience being quiet and diplomatic to be a friend to you that you never were to me, because you are too self-centered.

The war in Iraq is a war against Islamic radicals. There will be no draft or back door draft, that you fear, it is non-existant. To stand up for what is right and good is what America has always stood for. To say we should not have gone to Iraq, because it was not our business just proves how ignorant you really are. Why does your husband volunteer to go to Iraq if he, like you, believes this war was only for oil? Do you realize how stupid that sounds and looks?

Some how I know you just do not get it. You are to fear based and narrow minded to see any other point of view, other than the money you payed to see the most ignorant movie in history.

Why call yourself American? You do not believe in due process or have any confidence in our elections or government. You are a back seat complainer and want me to have pitty on you because you are just so upset that Kerry lost and America is going down the tubes.

I say do not waste your money on a pshyciatrist, I can diagnois you. You have Post Tramatic Kerry Stress Syndrome. My precription for you. Grow-up and get over it. If you cannot let it go, committ yourself to the pshyciatric ward at your local hospital. I know they will be more than happy to prescribe you Thorazene. It will shut you up and put you out.

[MLB]

Have you sent it yet?
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MLB

[Guest]

Yes....I would like to....should I? I have had it....she has been making my life miserable and she doesn't even care.....

[JannDallas]

I think it was said beautifully. Remember, by sending this you are definitely probably going to lose that friendship, if that is what you call it. The older I get, the less tolerant I am to having people around me that moans and groans all the time. It is up to you. I think you said it very well.

[Barbie2004]

Hi doll:

I am lean towards not sending it directly to (ex) friend. Burning bridges is generally not something I would advise.

Remember: No matter what else happens, there will probably be lingering bad feelings that could affect other friendships or job/business prospects, through gossip, etc.

Another route you might consider is mailing it to your local newspaper, without naming her or him. Or even trying "Dear Abby" with a signed pseudonym.

Obviously for you to write this letter means that s/he has upset you, with what I perceive to be good reason. No one wants a "friend" that cannot be reasoned with and/or who brings stability issues to the relationship.

It is usually easier to change someone's mind with patience, calmness, and reason. If it someone is going to change their mind at all, the preceding would be my advice.

However, numerous people out there latch upon an ideal and they refuse to let go no matter what. A sledgehammer usually causes someone to immediately become "defensive" and "dig their heels in."

Only you can decide your tolerance level.

If you decide that the "friendship" has run its course, my recommendation would be to "distance" yourself without fan-fair, quietly.

Final thoughts: I have spent countless hours writing to newspapers, TV stations, congressmen, etc., with many letters being very "direct," some quite similar to your letter, but I don't have to live in the same town as them, with the attendant potential pitfalls.

My next door neighbor is/was a Kerry fan. We talked about it ONCE, I stated my postition and reasons ONE time, calmly, directly, firmly, and sweetly. He can be a kind of "in your face" type. I still put my "Bush-Cheney" sign up, and it was left alone. We have chatted a few times since that conversation, but no mention of any politics. I don't know if I changed is mind, I never saw a Kerry sign in front of his place. Regardless, I got my satisfaction.

Very best wishes, and let us know what you decide and how it turns out.

[Kimmymac]

doll, I don't think you should burn bridges. It is much more effective to blow them up.

And remember, she isn't your ex-leftie friend, she is your leftie ex-friend. Small, but important difference.

But really, she isn't a "leftie"--I am a "leftie" (left handed) she is a fascist doo-doo.
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[Guest]

Hi!

Thanks for all the great comments and advice. I do not have the nerve to send it to her, but I was so angry I needed to vent.

I did post it at my Blog, but she doesn't know the URL so I do not have to worry that she will see it, but if she does, well, guess that is a chance I will take and choose to.

But it is great that we all can come here to share even when it is not on politics and get some good advice and food for thought.

I think you all are super!

A big cyber huggles to all of you!!!!!

[blue9t3]

Hi Doll,
I hope I dont get bleeped agian, but I would nuke her asap. She does have a couple good points! One is she did nothing? and two she may not have voted! Trust me---you'll never know she was gone?
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MOPAR-BUYER

[Digger]

I stated in a previous post that I have only two words for "friends" who talk to me like that: "GOOD BY!"
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Hey swifty, I'm with you, Just watch you don't get "Kerry'd away in the propwash

Sgt. Maj. Seamus D.D. MacNemi R.M.C. Ret.

[Guest]

[shooter]

Doll:

This "friendship" appears to be based solely on the fact that "she" helped you folks out when you needed it. Therefore, in her mind, you are indebted to her for life. I get the sense that the only reason "she" helped was to increase "her" stature. She is the epitimy of the false Christian. It's NOT done for any other reason than self-promotion. Unless I miss my guess, "she" has been bragging to mutual friends about ALL "she" has done for you and now you are treating her without the respect that you OWE her.

I loved the respnse that you had at the beginning of this. You need to chalk this up to experience and sever any ties to this high maintenance "friendship".

I truly wish you the best of luck in whatever you decide to do.
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[Digger]

During my lifetime, I have often heard the "Devil" 'quoting scripture to the congregation'. When the "HOLY NAME" is spoken for an evil purpose it becomes a curse in the mouth of the speaker. Gods enemies will use every concievable means top achieve their victory. We must all remember just exactly WHO we are fighting against and why we are fighting. Evil has many faces but only "ONE NAME" It is a name of abomination and shows itself in the suffering of humanity. FASCISM in any form is contrary to the will of God and must not be tolerated in our worrld.
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Hey swifty, I'm with you, Just watch you don't get "Kerry'd away in the propwash

Sgt. Maj. Seamus D.D. MacNemi R.M.C. Ret.

[MSeeger]

Doll,

I have been reading these letters with interest, and while I admire the fact that you keep trying to reach out to your friend, I have to say one thing: Give it up. Personally, I think you should send her first letter you posted on here, along with a addendum...so long, it was nice knowing you.

I realise that you were hoping against hope to steer her into a more rational line of thinking, but with a mindset like hers it's impossible to get through. Her mind is already made up, and all the facts you tell her are not going to change it. It is also counterproductive to argue over who is the better Christian. That only makes you sound judgemental.

One other thing: I did go see F 9/11 at the invitation of my daughter and son-in-law. But before I went, I read up on all the information on the anti-Michael Moore sites, so I would be better prepared. I happen to be one of those people who believes that if you don't go see for yourself, then you shouldn't criticise. Too many Christians fall into this trap regarding certain films and books. They freely criticise something they haven't seen or read, based on solely on the testimony of their favorite Christian artist/commentator/preacher. God gave us intelligence and I think he expects us to use it to inform ourselves. And if you don't "know your enemy" you can lay yourself open to be seduced by his or her lies.

These people cannot get past their hatred of one man. I know, I spent 3 hours yesterday "discussing" the after election results with my young German friend via ICQ. I told him it was a shame he couldn't get over his blind hatred of one man to even begin to try to discuss the issues of the war in Iraq, and other things in a calm rational and objective manner. No, all I got was a lecture on how Bush lied. These people do not hear, because they do not WANT to hear. So, once again I say...give it up and move on. Life is too short to try to hold on to that kind of friendship.

By the way, my sister hates GWB too. That's why we don't talk politics.

Maria
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Be not deceived, God is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. Gal. 6:7

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[Inatizzy]

A man can count on one hand the number of TRUE friends he will have in his life.

Doll, from what I can see, this gal ain't one of em'.

Some people just make friendship with them too hard. THey're called "irregular" people. With these types of people there are only 2 options:

1. Put up with the misery.
2. Cut them loose.

You've chosen wisely.