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 Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:11 pm Post subject: David Horowitz--Keep Prof, Build Diversity (Ward Churchill) |
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I love Horowitz, but can't agree with him on this one.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/opinion/article/0,1299,DRMN_38_3530454,00.html
Keep prof, build diversity
By David Horowitz
February 8, 2005
Editor's note: In an interview that appeared in Saturday's Rocky Mountain News, University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill said "It's been announced in pretty clear terms by both David Horowitz and Newt Gingrich that I am just the kickoff for a general purge they have in mind." In the following column, Horowitz, who is editor-in-chief of FrontPageMagazine.com and president of the Center for the Study of Popular Culture in Los Angeles, explains what his actual position is in the debate over whether Churchill should be fired for his inflammatory statements.
It will probably come as a surprise to many people, both friend and foe alike, that I am opposed to any attempt to fire Ward Churchill for the essay (now part of a book) that has become notorious in which he denounces his own country as a genocidal empire, supports America's terrorist enemies, and says that 9/11 was a case of the "chickens coming home to roost."
We live in country whose cornerstone document is a Bill of Rights that guarantees Americans a right to make fools of themselves if they so desire. State institutions like the University of Colorado are forbidden by our Constitution from firing people for expressing opinions, however offensive, idiotic or evil (and Churchill's comments on 9/11 qualify as all three). If, on the other hand, as some have charged, Churchill is not really a Native American as he claims, then of course he should be fired for fraud.
Yes, Churchill is a self-declared ally of our enemies in the terrorist war against us. But so are many academic leftists, including those now rallying to his defense. A decent university system with serious academic standards would probably not have hired Churchill in the first place, let alone promoted him to a position of responsibility and honor as the chair of the Ethnic Studies Department. But that does not give the regents of the university the right to fire him because he has embarrassed them now.
The real question is why wasn't anybody embarrassed before? In 1998, to cite one example, Churchill published a book - Pacificism as Pathology - which was essentially an argument for violent revolution to overthrow America's democracy. It was dedicated to an American terrorist who blew herself up while making a bomb intended to kill Army recruits and their dates at a social dance at Fort Dix. Why weren't any of his colleagues or superiors upset about this?
Churchill is most widely known, in fact, for his academic writings in defense of the Black Panthers, a leftist gang that murdered a dozen people, and for his academic treatises accusing America of plotting and carrying out genocide against minorities throughout its history.
Those who marvel at the current spectacle should keep in mind the fact that there is absolutely nothing new here, nothing that has not been not publicly known for years. The offending essay itself was published three years ago. No, whatever sin he has committed has not only been a matter of public record for more than 30 years, it has been reviewed over and over by duly constituted academic authorities at CU. The opinions that have suddenly catapulted this professor into the limelight have been examined and applauded by his university professors, the search-and-hiring committees that put him on the faculty of CU-Boulder, the promotion-and-tenure committees that made him a full professor, and the department that elected him chair.
In sum, Churchill's views, which are both hateful and ignorant, represent the views a substantial segment of the academic community at Boulder and on campuses generally. Robert Jensen, a leftist professor at the University of Texas whom I have debated on TV over the Churchill matter, fully shares Churchill's views that America should lose the war on terror and that the terrorists are in fact "resistance" fighters opposing the American empire. A well-known required text for "Peace Studies" programs authored by two professors at well-known universities teaches students that the word "terrorist" describes the American Founders, that "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" and that America is the world's "most terrorist state." Churchill's new book, On the Justice of Roosting Chickens, which contains his offending essay, is up for a Gustavus Myers Award, a "civil rights" award administered by academics.
The Churchill affair is an expression of the degenerate state of American social science and humanities faculties. It illuminates the political subversion of the academic enterprise by tenured radicals who have made universities like Boulder political institutions of the left, and in the process so diminished the presence of conservative, libertarian and even centrist thought from university faculties that hate-America radicals like Churchill are now pillars of the profession.
The remedy for this situation is not to purge the Ward Churchills from academic faculties. Their ideas are by now entrenched in the university curriculum and cannot be stamped out by firing an individual even if that were advisable (which it is not). They need to be confronted intellectually. Their scholarly incompetence needs to be exposed, and students need to be presented with an alternative view of history that is closer to reality.
The remedy for the Churchill problem is first of all to embrace the idea of intellectual diversity as a primary university value. This will insulate the university from attempts by legislators to remedy the situation themselves. The American public will accept the presence of an extremist like Churchill on a university faculty if they are convinced that the university is a true marketplace of ideas and that Churchill's perverse views will be answered by his peers.
The real problem is that there is no such diversity at the University of Colorado at Boulder today. In the present academic system, conservatives are as rare as unicorns, and have an almost impossible barrier to overcome in order to get hired. That is because search and hiring committees are composed of professors like Ward Churchill. That is the problem that the regents of the University of Colorado (and similar institutions) need to begin to address, now. |
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What diversity? Where are the conservative professors in our public institutions of learning? Has anyone done a survey on this issue? If so, please post results, I would like to know. What percentage of professors see issues from a conservative perspective? My suspicion is that within the halls of our Universities group thought is the rule rather then the exception. Perhaps our Universities in a quest to break free from a group thought conundrum will hire some retired conservative military leaders.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:37 am Post subject: Re: David Horowitz--Keep Prof, Build Diversity (Ward Churchi |
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| shawa wrote: | | I love Horowitz, but can't agree with him on this one. |
Shawa – Wait. I tend to trust that David usually knows what he is doing ... Consider that if the call is simply for Churchill to be fired, the subject becomes limited to one individual. If, however, Churchill is used as an EXAMPLE of the wider problem, he can be the key with which to open up the broader debate regarding tenured radicals nationwide – at least, this is what I think he is trying to do:
| Quote: | …..The Churchill affair is an expression of the degenerate state of American social science and humanities faculties. It illuminates the political subversion of the academic enterprise by tenured radicals who have made universities like Boulder political institutions of the left, .....
….Their ideas are by now entrenched in the university curriculum and cannot be stamped out by firing an individual..
....In the present academic system, conservatives are as rare as unicorns, and have an almost impossible barrier to overcome in order to get hired. That is because search and hiring committees are composed of professors like Ward Churchill. That is the problem that the regents of the University of Colorado (and similar institutions) need to begin to address, now. |
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| Quote: | | We live in country whose cornerstone document is a Bill of Rights that guarantees Americans a right to make fools of themselves if they so desire. |
While the above is absolutely true, nowhere does the Bill of Rights remove our right to hold those fools accountable for their actions.
I've seen and heard so many of the loonie left cry "I have freedom of speech," that my reply is automatic anymore. I simple remind them that I too have freedom of speech and under my right, can express that they are morons. Others also having freedom of speech is a concept that seems to confuse many of them. 
As for Churchill's Treasonous rhetoric, I think he should be free to openly express his views .................. in Syria, Iran, North Korea, Cuba or any other oppressive regime.
Listening to talk radio today, it seems he's also accused of plagarizm and falsifying his application by claiming to be of American Indian descent. Maybe they will fire him over that.
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| Freedom of speech is one thing, but inciting violent opposition (which I believe I heard in one of those recorded speeches) quite another. This self-absorbed fool has crossed the line. |
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Ward Churchill is fond of waving a "membership" card to the Keetoowah Tribe of the Cherokee Nation. This card is an honorary card that they stopped issuing after Churchill got his. Hell, even Clinton has one. In spit of what Churchill would have everyone believe, he is not a member of that tribe. The Keetoowah officials had the following to say in a release.
| Quote: | Churchill's membership in tribe honorary only
By Stuart Steers,
Rocky Mountain News
February 4, 2005
The former chairman of the Keetoowah band of Cherokee Indians says University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill was given an honorary membership that required no proof of Cherokee heritage.
John Ross led the tribe for several years in the 1990s. He says the Keetoowah established an "associate member" program to recognize friends of the tribe.
"If somebody helped out in a certain way, to honor them they'd give them an associate membership," Ross said Thursday. "There were 300 or 400 associate members."
Former President Clinton also was given an honorary membership in the tribe.
To be a full-fledged member of the Keetoowah, a person has to prove he or she is at least one-fourth Cherokee. Churchill has never had such a membership. Only full members are allowed to vote, hold office and receive tribal privileges.
Churchill has cited his associate membership in the tribe as proof of his Cherokee roots. He told The Denver Post on Wednesday he is three-sixteenths Cherokee. In the past, he has described himself as one-sixteenth Cherokee and also claimed to have Creek Indian blood. Ross said Churchill came to several Keetoowah celebrations in the early 1990s and befriended tribal members, who decided they wanted to give him the associate membership.
"He told the tribal council that if they needed him to lend a hand, he would," Ross said. He recalls Churchill offering to represent the tribe at an academic forum sponsored by the University of Arkansas.
Eventually, Ross came to feel the associate membership program was being abused, and he asked the tribal council to abolish it. The Keetoowah haven't given out any new associate memberships since 1994.
"There were a lot of people coming in and trying to use the associate memberships to elevate themselves," he said. "We decided we shouldn't give them out anymore and did away with it."
Ross said some of the associate members were people who started claiming to be Keetoowah artisans. He says Churchill is also misusing his associate membership status.
"In a sense, he's misleading people," Ross said. "He's like the others - that's what he's done."
Churchill did not return numerous phone calls during the past two days seeking comment.
Many non-Indians are now claiming Cherokee ancestry, said Richard Allen, a policy analyst with the Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma. The Keetoowah are a small offshoot of the much larger Cherokee Nation.
Allen has worked for the Cherokee Nation for more than 20 years. He said he has followed Churchill's career for much of that time.
"When it comes to Churchill, I've always thought he was a wannabe Indian," Allen said. "His history is a little bit like Forrest Gump."
Allen said Churchill picked up a packet to enroll in the Cherokee Nation in 1991 and never returned it.
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Beatrice, I understand completely what Horowitz's point is regarding
using Churchill as an example. However, I don't believe it will work.
After all the public firestorm raised over this traitorous, America Hater
professor who is then allowed to keep his job only encourages more of the same.
Leftist Academia needs to be shown that there are consequences
to be paid for promulgating their propaganda. Horowitz says that firing him is only getting rid
of ONE leftist professor, what about all the rest?
I say that firing one professor serves as a shot across the bow to all
the rest--Beware of the consequences. I daresay that if a professor
had published an essay full of outrageous anti-black slurs, the left
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Whoah...heap big rant from pig who walks on frozen water...
| Quote: | Today's Hate Essay: Yo, Ward? What are you DOING Here, *****?
If You're an Indian, I'm Larry Storch
Ward Churchill is in the news, which is another way of saying, "Ward Churchill is happy." Have you read about this pinhead? He's a blue-eyed, fair-skinned liberal Nazi who fancies himself a Native American activist.
Let me say a few words about the whole "Indian" concept, as applied in modern America. Well, let me say one word. "********." Indians have been treated as badly as any group in the history of the world, but for some reason, every spoiled white child in America wants to be one. Because, yo, Indians are cool. They have all sorts of quiet, Zen-like savage wisdom. They can talk to trees. They can predict the weather. Before we came here, they all lived in peace and harmony, without polluting the land or hurting the bunnies and squirrels.
Uh, EXCUSE ME. Before Europeans got here, the national pastimes were mass murder, slavery, pointless torture, human sacrifice, and cannibalism. I hate to break it to you, little one-thirty-second Indian, representing your tribe down at the food court, but American Indians did exactly what all primitive people do. They killed and raped each other from sunup to sundown, and they decorated their homes with each other's dried body parts.
As for being nice to the environment, that's what people do when they have no technology and a population density of three per square light year. Take North America, populate it with ten million of the fattest, greediest, whitest Republicans you can find, take away their electricity, coal, oil, gas, and nuclear reactors, and they won't pollute, either. Pollution is a side-effect of progress, kiddies. It has nothing to do with Caucasians lacking mystical powers.
I wouldn’t get too excited about the mystical thing. Spirit guides and sweat lodges and talking to the bears and so on. White people see spirit guides, too, when they eat enough peyote. When I was in college, I once had a vision of George Hamilton in an Izod caftan. He waved his magic Martini at me and told me to go forth and build strip malls.
If Indians have magical powers, how come they don’t go to each other’s casinos, predict the winning roulette numbers, and bankrupt each other?
And who IS an Indian? Not Ward Churchill, apparently. He claims he’s one-sixteenth Indian. Hey, after a good meal, I’m one-sixteenth frijoles negros. Does that make me a Cuban? As I understand it, so many white boys want to be Indians, the tribes have liberalized (good word choice) the admission rules to the point where anyone who can sing the first verse of “Cherokee People” is IN.
Why would they do a thing like that? As usual, I have no idea what the facts are, but I know human nature, which is even better. They probably wanted dues. Think about it. One the one hand, you have a bunch of underemployed real Indians living in depressed areas, most of whom have no interest in going to meetings and contributing money. On the other hand, you have little 3.125%-Navajo Biff and Muffy, living on trust funds and desperate for attention and an expensive hobby.
Why yes, Muffy, you DO have high cheekbones. Here’s your membership card and Sabatier/Franklin Mint tomahawk. Your new name is, uh, PMSing Elk. That will be one thousand dollars. No, we do not accept wampum. Yes, “how” to you, too. See you at the meeting.
A C.U. student wrote a paper where she said she talked to Ward’s supposed “tribe,” and they told her he was about as Indian as Hernando Cortes. She says Ward gave her a C-minus. “C” for “Caucasian,” I guess.
Supposedly, I’m an Indian, too. On each side of my family, there was an old goat who ran off with a Native American. None of us ever got the straight poop because, God love them, the old ones—the great uncles and aunts who actually knew the truth—hated Indians. Way up into the late 20th century. A form of bigotry so antiquated it was almost charming. They didn’t think Indians were cool at all, and they wouldn’t tell us a damn thing.
I think the stories are BS. If I’m part Indian, why can’t I tan? Why do my father’s relatives all look like a cross between Robby Coltrane and Billy Connolly, especially the women? I once heard that the real truth was that my miscegenating ancestors ran off with Indian women AFTER they had pasty white kids by fat carping women of Celtic extraction.
But I still want sympathy and, more importantly, government handouts.
Okay, let’s pretend Ward is an Indian. Why do I hate him? Well, Ward is a professor at Colorado University, and he wrote an article claiming 9/11 was our fault, and that the victims were “little Eichmanns.” I only skimmed the piece, but the gist of it is that Caucasians killed most of the Indians and then drove Saddam Hussein (who kind of looks like an Indian if you squint) out of Kuwait, so everyone who worked in the World Trade Center was a Nazi, and it was okay to burn them to death with jet fuel.
If we’re going to kill Caucasians for crimes against other races, why don’t we start with Ward? Let’s kill the filthy murdering fifteen-sixteenths of him that came from Europe and keep the rest alive in a jar. We’ll put it on display here in Florida, over at Miccosukee Bingo. But not too close to the restaurants or concessions. We want the palefaces to keep buying those Cosmopolitans.
Why is it that the most annoying Native American Activists are all blue-eyed whiteys who could walk through downtown Palm Beach at midnight without being beaten by the police?
Back when I was studying physics at the University of Texas, we had a T.A. who was supposedly an Indian. She was whiter than I am, which puts her somewhere between albino and boiled egg. I'm so white, you can tan by standing next to me, just from the reflected light.
She had a public access show called something like “Oppressed People of Turtle Island.” I have no idea what Turtle Island is. Maybe there’s a casino there. She looked Irish to me. It would have been more appropriate if she had had a show called “Drunken People of Potato Island.”
Why can’t we have Indian activists who are actually Indians? Like Wayne Newton?
Danke schoen…
White man, danke schoen…
Thank you for…
Conquistadores from Spain…
I recall…
Wounded Knee in fall…
How I tore my headdress…
What a mess…
I confess…
That’s not all…
Big, fat, bloated, Vegas-based Republican Indians, so rich they own Caucasians. That would be cool.
Ward, how do you feel about the Muslims who died in 9/11? Were they Eichmanns, too? How about the Asians? What about the Puerto Ricans and blacks and women? What about the Native Americans? I mean the actual Native Americans, not the angry white cranks who pretend to be Indians so they can score with college chicks?
You know what it proves? White people really DO screw Indians. We even screw them out of their Indian-ness. A real Indian could be doing Ward Churchill’s job, but Ward decided it was his Manifest Destiny to take it away from him.
Ward hates white people so much, he built his life around pretending he isn’t one. He hates Americans so much, he thinks we deserve to be burned and crushed to death at our desks. I have an idea. Why don’t we ship Ward’s happy white ass to Syria? If he can be an Indian, I see no reason why he can’t be an Arab, too. He’ll need a supply of self-tanning cream; it’s probably hard to buy in the Middle East. Maybe John Kerry has some left over from the campaign.
Yes, self-tanning cream is the answer for guilty white liberals. Little brown people, unite with little orange people! Oompa Loompa Power! Right on!
Oompa Loompa loompity-doo…
I’ve got another fatwah for you…
Some people think Ward ought to be fired before he warps young minds. What’s the point? Liberals in academia are like rows of teeth in a shark’s mouth. Knock one out, and another one rotates into place, flashing a peace sign and drawing flies. No, I say we leave him where he is and publicly ridicule him and expose his bigotry and hatred and white roots until he becomes a symbol of leftist insanity and drives students to join the Young Republicans. Useful idiots can be useful to the right, too. Look what the Dixie Chicks did for George Bush.
If the Gulf War justifies 9/11, Little Big Horn justifies repeatedly kicking Ward Churchill in the ass.
Take it for the tribe, white boy.
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Saw this guy on C-Span a little bit ago - replays at 1am or maybe they will have the video at the website. Caught it in the middle, so I don't know how long it was on -- what a smug jackass "I've been writing against America all of my life!!" the crowd cheers him with fist salutes. At one point he's talking about a million children that the US "technocrats" have killed in response to a question about how he has the gall to say the people who died on 9/11 were Eichmanns -- and he qualifies that the service workers and food people and janitors at the WTC were not the Eichmanns, only all the other people -- saying it was their choice to be Eichmanns - because their jobs involve them in these vile things America is doing -- to listen to him is ... my disgust, my anger right now is off the charts.... and an ex-VVAW guy, a parent of a student there, stands up to say way to go bro...
And he's taking questions, blunt, rude - a guy asks him why only he has freedom but the people in the Columbus Day parade didn't, as he was one of them - and the answer was some convoluted rendition of the 9th Amendment saying somehow that his rights trumped those of the questionner and then would not "allow" him any further questions - and then a big wrap up about all these lands are Indian lands and we'd better realize it, and surrounded by his bodyguards, he leaves the stage to Indian drums ....
It's a terrible thing to see his mind work. This is a vile, hateful, arrogant man. He's going to go down screaming from what I can tell -- after actually listening to him for a little while, I not only think he should be fired, but also put away - he has a dangerous hate and he's whipping his supporters into a frenzy with it.
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| shawa wrote: | | Beatrice, I understand completely what Horowitz's point is regarding using Churchill as an example. However, I don't believe it will work. .... I say that firing one professor serves as a shot across the bow to all the rest--Beware of the consequences. |
Shawa - after seeing Churchill give his speech tonight, I agree with you that he must be fired. |
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Churchill's degree is even fake!! He earned his 'degrees' in 1972 (BA) and 1974 (MA) from this questionable institution!!
"Sangamon State was created in the 1970s as a "radical" university. They didn’t nave real courses, they often didn’t even grade the "students" It was merely a Marxist diploma bin, where sub-par intellects like Mr. Churchill could get some form of authentication so he could then preach his filth while waving around a moderately advanced degree."
From Pipeline News: (Emphasis mine)
Email Bomb Campaign - Target: Ward Churchill, Colorado University
We here at PipeLineNews occasionally become involved in email campaigns. We, long ago, designed a feature of the site called E-Bombs which allowed us to design and route Internet campaigns based upon our needs. In general we have found that unless the matter is pressing, our time is better served handling the matter editorially or as a straight news item.
We feel that the following matter is pressing.
Ward Churchill is a professor at Colorado University’s Boulder Campus.
He is not only a professor, he is the chairman of the Ethnic Studies Department.
Churchill is an unreconstructed Marxist, a Jihadi apologist and vehemently anti-American.
Of the 3,000 victims of the 9/11 Islamist attack, Churchill has written:
"…as for those in the World Trade Center… they were civilians of a sort. But innocent? Gimme a break"
To compound the injury Churchill then further characterized the victims as, “…little Eichmans."
Our evaluation of Mr. Churchill’s political stance is not based upon scanty information, his Marxism and intemperate anti-Americanism are not in doubt, and a brief search of the record reveals what an odious character he is.
But this is really not about Churchill’s hate America complex.
Public Universities consume public funds. Colorado University at Boulder is a public institution; as such Mr. Churchill is a public employee.
Citizens, taxpayers more correctly, pay his salary.
This is not about free speech, Mr. Churchill can say just about anything he wants, on his own dime. However doing so in a public classroom setting is beyond the pale.
This is a simply the case of an ignoramus - whose claim to fame is an MA from a no-name University - proselytizing students with Stalinist garbage, at our expense.
If he wants to do this at Brown or at Stanford then he may have an argument, however the public has a right to control what goes on at public Universities.
To further clarify the situation, Sangamon State U – Churchill’s Alma Mater - in actuality exists no more, having been absorbed into the larger University of Illinois system.
Sangamon State was created in the 1970s as a "radical" university. They didn’t nave real courses, they often didn’t even grade the "students" It was merely a Marxist diploma bin, where sub-par intellects like Mr. Churchill could get some form of authentication so he could then preach his filth while waving around a moderately advanced degree.
As such we consider Ward Churchill to be a fake professor, he doesn't belong at any college, he is a fraud.
The following is the text that is being sent to Colorado University, Boulder’s Chancellor and Churchill’s personal assistant:
Subject: STOP THE COLORADO UNIVERSITY JIHAD!
Colorado University at Boulder claims that its department of Ethnic Studies promotes interdisciplinary research and teaching, however the department's chair, Ward Churchill, has proven himself to be a doctrinaire pro-Jihadist, Marxist ignoramus.
Churchill's long record of antiquated Stalinist pandering is now being supplemented by a new theory; that being those who perished in the unprovoked Islamist attack against America on September 11, 2001 - unbelievably - deserved it.
In our opinion no University in the United States should be able to use public monies to fund and promote such hate-speech. We demand that Churchill be immediately terminated.
If you feel the same take the following link and click away.
Stop The Colorado University Jihad
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http://www.anncoulter.com/
For the Ann Coulter fans
Here's Ann on Ward Churchill, doing what Ann does best 
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Mother of God, can it be? Please tell me it's true! As I understand all of this now, he took a bogus degree from a radical bogus school. He lied about being a Native American. And now I'm reading on other blogs (I didn't get the links but they should be easy to retrieve) that he lied about being a Veitnam Veteran. With all this detritus, one would think ample rationale exists to fire him and cast him off the campus unceremoniously.
Seems to me that even in the BM (bluestate moonbat) community, three frauds justify ejection. No one is denying him his free speech. He's free to rail and wail all he wants to anyone who will listen. I'm sure CU would even give him a column in the campus newspaper in which to write his swan song. On the other hand, we also have the same freedoms. In any event, his income is not connected to the First Amendment. For misrepresentation to the University, Native Americans and all Veterans, he should be fired. For accepting money based on his resume, his teachings and his publications, clearly a series of frauds, he should be fired. And based on common sense, we absolutely don't have to provide a lifetime of income for this aging fraud who fortunately got caught.
Woe be to the University of Colorado if they don't fire him. In that event, I would predict they'd suffer a fatal endowment drought in one season.
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| Tom Poole wrote: | Mother of God, can it be? Please tell me it's true! As I understand all of this now, he took a bogus degree from a radical bogus school. He lied about being a Native American. And now I'm reading on other blogs (I didn't get the links but they should be easy to retrieve) that he lied about being a Veitnam Veteran. With all this detritus, one would think ample rationale exists to fire him and cast him off the campus unceremoniously.
Seems to me that even in the BM (bluestate moonbat) community, three frauds justify ejection. No one is denying him his free speech. He's free to rail and wail all he wants to anyone who will listen. I'm sure CU would even give him a column in the campus newspaper in which to write his swan song. On the other hand, we also have the same freedoms. In any event, his income is not connected to the First Amendment. For misrepresentation to the University, Native Americans and all Veterans, he should be fired. For accepting money based on his resume, his teachings and his publications, clearly a series of frauds, he should be fired. And based on common sense, we absolutely don't have to provide a lifetime of income for this aging fraud who fortunately got caught.
Woe be to the University of Colorado if they don't fire him. In that event, I would predict they'd suffer a fatal endowment drought in one season. |
Churchill & Kerry could reside together in the same pod of peas. Both of them will invent what ever is beneficial to further them selves. And truth has no place in their individually defined reality.
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