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Beatrice1000
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 Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:49 pm Post subject: Liberals to write "improved" Constitution for 2020 |
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So glad we’ve got some liberal folk out there who are progressive enough to worry, on our behalf, about our old, worn out Constitution and to dream the big dreams of changing the darn thing because it’s so outdated and unjust and only serves to continue to frustrate their efforts in producing their visions -- for our better good….:
| Quote: | “The $80,000 Misunderstanding,” Scott, Powerlineblog, 4/9/05
Yesterday Yale Law School grad ('00) Leah Mesfin wrote to alert us to this weekend's doings at the law school. Leah noted that she'd started reading us in connection with our coverage of the Republican convention this past September. She wrote:
Recently I got an invitation from the YLS to register for an upcoming conference at YLS called "The Constitution in 2020." Their plan is simple - they plan to congregate to produce a vision of what the Constitution should be for 2020 and then to colloborate on how to use their influence and judicial power to accomplish it. Their posts with their plans for the conference are here.
I wrote this because I thought you and the rest of your readers might be interested in knowing how these elitist morons are conveniently drafting us a new Constitution since we're too dumb to govern ourselves. The posts and the whole project are so deeply offensive on a variety of different levels. Who do these people think that they are that they can effectively draft a new Constitution for the rest of America? They're a handful of elitist, unelected, out of touch, narcissistic, overpaid, underworked, downright foolish liberal intellectuals that think they are more righteous than God, and therefore, by divine right, are the only ones worthy of the task. ....(continued)
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UPDATE: At Little Green Footballs, Charles Johnson points out that one of the movers behind the conference is none other than George Soros….**ARTICLE** |
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GM Strong
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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They could just adopt the old Soviet Union Constitution, it isn't being used anymore. Those Libs think they are God and want you to know so.
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Rdtf
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| How did Leah manage to keep from having her mind poisoned thus far? I'm impressed! Glad to see that. There is hope! |
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LewWaters
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| Quote: | | They could just adopt the old Soviet Union Constitution, it isn't being used anymore. |
Reading recent Court Findings and hearing Ruth Bader Ginsberg justify going outside the US for her "interpretation" of our laws, seems that maybe our constitution isn't getting much use anymore either.
Personally, I like the following more than whatever they can come up with.
| Quote: | The Bill of Non-Rights
"We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional, and other bed-wetters.
We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people are
confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of
NON-Rights."
ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.
ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.
ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.
ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be
nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health care.
ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.
ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.
ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.
ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.
ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where you are from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came from.
ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And yet, you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!!!! |
I don't know the author, but it's been circulating on the web for some time now. Makes sense to me.
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GM Strong
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| LewWaters wrote: | | Reading recent Court Findings and hearing Ruth Bader Ginsberg justify going outside the US for her "interpretation" of our laws, seems that maybe our constitution isn't getting much use anymore either. |
Not just Ginsberg, but Kennedy as well. Both have no place on the court. Hell, they don't even interpret, they incorporate.
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ocsparky101
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| Actually I think the Constitution needs revision. Especially where it says that Judges are appointed and not elected. If they are going to write law I want a voice in who is doing the writing. Also I think all judges both Federal and State should announce their political affiliations. The American people have no Idea who they are voting fore until it is to late. |
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PhantomSgt
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I hope they don't run out of lead free, environment friendly crayolas before they finish their version of a constitution. KoolAid anyone?
By the way, isn't it against the constitution to replace it? Now if they offer an amendment it just might make it out of Congress so that it can inturn be soundly defeated by the red states. You got to love that red map.
Of course they could move to Europe like they promised and live under the Euro Constitution if anyone votes for it.
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tony54
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| Quote: | | Also I think all judges both Federal and State should announce their political affiliations. The American people have no Idea who they are voting fore until it is to late. |
They don't have to announce their party affiliation.
But all judges are elected attorneys and 95% of attorneys are Liberal Democrats and we know that ahead of time.
Its a lose lose situation. |
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Tom Poole
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| ocsparky101 wrote: | | ...needs revision. Especially where it says that Judges are appointed... |
I believe the problem lies in the extreme difficulty related to impeachment. It seems to me new procedures are needed to establish a simple small committee of legislators specifically tasked to monitor judges that exceed their authority. An immediate simple majority vote is all that's needed to impeach a judge. Similarly, removal also should be simplified to require less than full Senate approval except for Supreme Court Justices.
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GM Strong
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Impeachment is not difficult so much as there is a reluctance to do so. It shouldn't be easy, but somebody has to have the guts to do it. It is a legislative responsibility. The Judiciary committes can do this. I find it laughable that Congressman Alcee Hastings (D-23rd Dist Florida)  should comment on any of this. He, for one, is an impeached and convicted Judge. Appointed by Jimmuh The Incompetent   , he was convicted on 8 articles of impeachment by the Senate in 1988 and removed from office. His bio only says he served as a Federal Judge for 10 years. So what do the people do?? They elect him the slug to Congress.  Figure that one out!!!
As an aside, "Who was one of the Senators who was in favor of aquittal?". If you guessed Snarlin' Arlen Specter, you are right!  Remember, this is the Guy who deferred to Scottish law when he voted "not proven" in the Clinton Impeachment.
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 1:00 am Post subject: Re: Liberals to write "improved" Constitution for |
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| Beatrice1000 wrote: | | Quote: | “The $80,000 Misunderstanding,” Scott, Powerlineblog, 4/9/05
Yesterday Yale Law School grad ('00) Leah Mesfin wrote to alert us to this weekend's doings at the law school. ... Their plan is simple - they plan to congregate to produce a vision of what the Constitution should be for 2020 and then to colloborate on how to use their influence and judicial power to accomplish it. |
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Just who the hell are these leftist academics who think their jobs as professors gives them authoirty to use their influence (i.e. via connections to former mentors and students) to change the Constitution?
Are these people teachers, or are they activists?
What is the mission of a university professor anyway? I thought it was to teach, not proselytize, treating their academic pulpits as a base for political power mongering of the most severe form, and formenting their version of "revolution."
It's time the public starting demanding professors educate Johnny instead of mimiking Josef and Fidel.
And I say that as a former Yale assistant professor myself.
-- FDL
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