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Rdtf CNO
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:43 pm Post subject: Border Chief Reaches Out to Volunteers |
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072001897_pf.html
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Quote: | Border Chief Reaches Out to Volunteers
By JEREMIAH MARQUEZ
The Associated Press
Wednesday, July 20, 2005; 10:56 PM
LOS ANGELES -- The top U.S. border enforcement official said Wednesday that his agency is exploring ways to involve citizen volunteers in creating "something akin to a Border Patrol auxiliary" _ a significant shift after a high-profile civilian campaign this spring along the Arizona-Mexico border.
Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Robert C. Bonner told The Associated Press that his agency began looking into citizen involvement after noting how eager volunteers were to stop illegal immigration.
"We value having eyes and ears of citizens, and I think that would be one of the things we are looking at is how you better organize, let's say, a citizen effort," Bonner said.
He said that could involve training of volunteers organized "in a way that would be something akin to a Border Patrol auxiliary."
Bonner characterized the idea of an auxiliary as "an area we're looking at," and a spokeswoman said it hadn't been discussed yet with top Homeland Security officials.
"This is what we need to study," said Bonner, who was in Los Angeles to discuss port security. He said questions such as what kind of authority volunteers might be given _ for example, would they be deputized to make arrests _ would have to be answered.
Until now, Border Patrol officials have generally criticized civilian efforts to police the nation's borders, saying that was the job of trained law enforcement officers. President Bush has also expressed opposition to border "vigilantes."
But in April, hundreds of volunteers converged on a 23-mile stretch of the Arizona-Mexico border, and the Minuteman Project generated international attention.
The following month, Bonner told Congress that if the government were to "better and more effectively harness the citizen volunteers," it would need to provide "some insights, possibly even training."
A labor leader who represents Border Patrol agents questioned the idea of volunteer involvement after hearing about Bonner's suggestion Wednesday.
"If he's sanctioning something akin to the Minuteman Project, it would be irresponsible to place ordinary citizens in harm's way," said T.J. Bonner, president of the National Border Patrol Council and no relation to Robert Bonner.
Minuteman Project founder Jim Gilchrist said he liked the idea but doubted it would happen.
Migrants' advocate Enrique Morones of Border Angels, a San Diego group that gives water to immigrants who cross the California-Mexico border, called it "a recipe for disaster."
"You'll have all of these unqualified yahoos being given license to promote hate," he said.
Bonner said the agency would examine how other auxiliaries operate to come up with a possible model. The Coast Guard Auxiliary, for example, has 30,000 members trained to help with such non-law enforcement programs as public education, vessel safety checks and safety patrols.
Customs and Border Protection spokeswoman Kristi Clemens said Homeland Security officials would be briefed on the idea once the agency came up with a proposal.
"All proposals are being considered, including clerical work by volunteers that would free up more agents to secure our borders," she said. |
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Nutso PO3
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 271 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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I have mixed feelings on this. On one hand being organized and 'official' maybe with uniforms and whatever might be beneficial and even more efficient and safe. On the other side is that now they are under control of the government that FAILED to stop these ILLEGAL acts in the first place, and maybe it will now be controlled in such a way as to keep permitting the influx. The illegals are a major problem for the country - but for politicians, including Bush, it is just another voting block, with financial aid coming from employers for keeping underscale workers at the ready.
Personally we should build up the minute men to the point where they are in control and then have the government turn over the border patrol to the minutemen. |
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Me#1You#10 Site Admin
Joined: 06 May 2004 Posts: 6503
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps it's the "Minutemen" that should be training the Border Patrol. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Me#1You#10 wrote: | Perhaps it's the "Minutemen" that should be training the Border Patrol. |
LOLOL! The Minutemen certainly brought some results to the table, didn't they?
And it's not the BP agents who need training - it's the friggin' bureaucracy - good heavens - you would not believe the insanity of all the political machinations in that department!
The pettiness and bickering at the high levels of management down through station management is laughable.... until you realize that this department full of childish power-mongering has responsibility for our security.
This is no ordinary Civil Service branch of governmental support. These people are responsible for our first line of defense, but they are not given the power to enforce our borders - they are out there every day putting their lives on the line for NOTHING, as they see it.
"Detain and interrogate."
"Catch and release."
"Okay, skip the catch part and just observe." It's abso-freakin-lutely insane!
Let's hope that the "house-cleaning" begun in the intel community filters over into enforcement soon, too. Time for a holistic approach! _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
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