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dusty
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 Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 3:26 pm Post subject: Lies...Aiding and Abetting...and Treason |
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The way I see it.
Commiecrat Lie No. 1:
President Bush lied to get us into the war with Iraq.
The lie is saying this statement. Saying it in public is an act of treason.
If the president lied about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction, then so did John Kerry, Bill Clinton, 99% of the members of congress, most of the worlds leaders and intelligence agencies. They all had access to the same intelligence. Saddam had defied how many U.N. resolutions to allow open inspections? For the very people who said with their own lips that Iraq was the No.1 enemy of the United States and now critize and call our President a liar for their own political gain is inexcusable and they should be held accountable. By their public statements calling President Bush a liar they have committed Treason against this country.
Commiecrat Lie No. 2
President Bush lied when he linked Saddam to 9/11.
Except President Bush never did that. That is a made up fabrication. Even though there is much evidence to actually link Saddam to 9/11, President Bush never uttered those words. The President did say that Iraq was a terrorist state which was not a lie. To say that the President linked Saddam to 9/11 is a lie and to say it in public is an act of treason.
Commiecrat Lie No. 3:
There were no terrorists in Iraq before we took over Iraq.
This is blatently a lie designed to sway public opinion in this country. There was a terrorist training camp in Northern Iraq sponsored by Saddam's govt. where terrorists were trained to take over airliners. Iraq was shooting at our planes in the no fly zones every day. An act of war against us in itself. The terrorist Al Zarqaui was living in and recruiting terrorists and living bombs in Iraq to commit acts of terror all over the world. Saddam was paying suicide bombers families money for their sacrifice when they blew up Israelies . To say that Iraq was not a terrorist state before we went to war with them is a lie and an act of Treason when this lie is spoken in public.
These lies are acts of treason because they give Aid and Comfort to the enemy in a time of war.
Look up the definition of the word Treason. These false statements about the leader of our country while we are at war gives the enemy hope that the American people will become convinced that the war against them is wrong and force the President to abandon it. It gives them strength to continue to kill Americans. These false statements about our President give the leaders of our enemy recruitment fodder to recruit more terrorists and talking points to use as propaganda against this country. More Americans will die because of public statements of lies about our President.
These lies are treason should not be allowed by the American people any longer.
Discourse about the war is protected by the right to free speech. Lies however are not.
This should stop.
Disagreement about the war on Iraq is fine if we are discussing the pros and cons of whether the sanctions and inspections were working or not. It is fine if we are discussing the quality of the intelligence that led us into the war. It is not fine if we are telling lies that disparage our Commander in Chief and Aid and Abett our enemies.
We (the silent majority) are going to get control of this situation. We should not tolerate another Vietnam scenario where we won the war over there but lost it over here because of treason by our own citizens. We should have stopped it in it's dirty tracks at that time. We didn't and we lost a war and millions died. We should stop it now.
Treason should not be tolerated in this country any longer.
Aiding and Abetting our enemies by providing them with propaganda should not be tolerated any longer.
We should not lose more American lives because of treasonous lies being dissemanated by people whose only concern is a political agenda to further and for their own grandizement.
dusty
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I B Squidly
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Dusty,
I share your aggravation but what are we to do: build concentration lagers for registered Democrats?, postpone the NFL season to pack stadiums with them?, machine gun them or gas them?. None are pretty pictures for a free society.
The Alien and Sedition Acts were cancelled two hundred years ago though Jefferson later regretted it. If aiding and abetting the enemy with speech were prosecutable we'ld have had Fonda and sKerry in Leavenworth years ago. We can't even prosecute the John Walker Lyn punk.
Professional politicians and Demo's in particular are liars by trade, America's true criminal class. You have to trust that enough of your fellow citisens see through the bunk and recognize who it is that dirties their boots.
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dusty
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I know IB but it would only take a few examples for the rest to fall in line and these public displays of support for our enemies would cease to plauge us. . In Kerry and Fonda cases, they padded words with actions. Two prime examples for my money.
To trust our fellow citizens to see through the lies cost us dearly once before. I don't think we want to repeat that again.
Examples need to be made.
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blue9t3
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Dusty, your right! we could start cleaning house right now with hatefest going on in DC 
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MrJapan
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| Send them all to N. Korea.. or better yet, to shack with the 'freedom fighters' in Iraq |
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SBD
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We should start with the New York Times reporters.
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FROM TO THE POINT NEWS
ZARQAWI’S BIGGEST SUPPORTER: AL QAEDA OR THE NEW YORK TIMES?
Guest Author
Jack Kelly
Friday, October 14, 2005
On July 9th, Ayman al Zawahiri, the number 2 man in al Qaida, wrote a 6,000 word letter to Abu Musab al Zarqawi, the Al Qaeda chieftain in Iraq. The letter was captured by U.S. forces, translated, and posted on government Web sites.
Democrats and journalists scoff at President Bush's claim that Iraq is the central front in the War on Terror. Zawahiri agrees with Bush:
“I want to be the first to congratulate you,” he wrote Zarqawi, “for...fighting battle in the heart of the Islamic world, which was formerly the field for major battles in Islam's history, and which is now the place for the greatest battle of Islam in this era.”
Zawahiri outlined a four part incremental strategy.
The first stage is to expel the Americans from Iraq.
The second stage is to establish a caliphate -- a Taliban-style dictatorship -- within Iraq.
The third stage is to expand the caliphate to Iraq's neighbors.
The fourth stage is to destroy Israel, and to expand the Islamist dictatorship to Egypt and Lebanon.
If Zarqawi could have a telephone conversation with Zawahiri without the NSA listening in and a cruise missile interrupting it, he'd probably say that expelling the Americans is easier said than done.
Zawahiri tacitly acknowledges this, but holds out hope we'll cut and run of our own accord:
"Things may develop faster than we imagine. The aftermath of the collapse of American power in Vietnam -- and how they ran and left their agents – is noteworthy. Because of that, we must be ready starting now, before events overtake us."
Even if the Americans left tomorrow, Al Qaeda isn't powerful or popular enough to take over, Zawahiri concedes. So there should be a coalition government that Al Qaeda could later subvert.
Which leads to the point of Zawahiri's letter. He gently admonishes Zarqawi for using tactics that alienate the Iraqi populace.
"Among the things which the feelings of the Muslim populace who love and support you will never find palatable are the scenes of slaughtering the hostages."
Ever the humanitarian, Zawahiri suggested Zarqawi just shoot them instead:
"We can kill the captives by bullet. That would achieve that which is sought after without exposing ourselves to the questions and answering to doubts. We don't need this."
Zawahiri agrees the Shia are heretics who must be dealt with:
"The collision between any state based on the model of prophecy with the Shia is a matter that will happen sooner or later."
But dealing with the Shia should wait until al Qaida is stronger, because attacks on Shia civilians are alienating even Sunni Muslims:
"Many of your Muslim admirers amongst the common folk are wondering about your attacks on the Shia. The sharpness of this questioning increases when the attacks are on one of their mosques...My opinion is that this matter won't be acceptable to the Muslim populace however much you have tried to explain it."
The attacks are impractical:
"Can the mujahedeen kill all of the Shia in Iraq? Has any Islamic state in history ever tried that?"
Zawahiri reminds Zarqawi that 100 al Qaida leaders are in Iran.
"Even if we attack the Shia out of necessity, then why do you announce this matter and make it public, which compels the Iranians to take counter measures? And do the brothers forget that both we and the Iranians need to refrain from harming each other at this time in which the Americans are targeting us?"
If after Zarqawi crawls out from under the rubble left by the cruise missile strike and re-establishes the telephone conversation hypothesized above, he might tell Zawahiri that he attacks Shia civilians primarily because those are the only people he can get at.
Attacks on U.S. and Iraqi soldiers have been sending his fighters to Allah rather faster than they've wanted to go.
I suspect Zawahiri intuits this. His letter -- which he ends with a plea for money -- is an astonishing confession of weakness.
Yet this is how Douglas Jehl described it in the New York Times:
"Mr. Zawahiri told Mr. Zarqawi that the American occupation of Iraq has provided Islamic militants with a historic opportunity to win popular support."
Al Qaeda is getting creamed militarily and politically in Iraq. But as Zawahiri reminded Zarqawi: "more than half this battle is taking place in the battlefield of the media." |
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shawa
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From Newsmax
| Quote: | Sunday, Oct. 16, 2005 8:07 a.m. EDT
Chris Wallace: Media Bias 'Astonishing'
"Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace said Friday that since leaving the mainstream networks behind to join Fox he's noticed an "astonishing" amount of biased reporting on the part of his former colleagues.
"I came from the mainstream media and I didn't used to feel this way," Wallace told WRKO Boston radio host Howie Carr.
In radio interviews he does to promote his Sunday broadcast, Wallace said, the questions he gets are almost always slanted against the Bush administration.
"They always ask negative questions about George Bush [like] 'How much trouble is he in? What's this mess in Iraq?'"
"I mean, it's quite astonishing to me."
Wallace said that the success of Fox News is a direct result of bias in the so-called objective press.
"Fox News wouldn't exist if it weren't for this kind of stuff going on in the mainstream media," he told Carr. "That's why people are fed up with that and want the antidote to it because they get it and they've gotten it for years - the so-called bias in the objective press." |
Well I guess it's a case of former MSM reporters have to come out of the 'dark side' to look back before they recognize the bias that they were a part of.
e.g.-Bernie Goldberg and now Chris Wallace.
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