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shawa
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 7:12 am    Post subject: Gray Lady Down Reply with quote

A scathing rebuke from IBD.
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Wednesday December 28, 7:00 pm ET

Trust: The so-called mainstream media in general and The New York Times in particular are waging a relentless campaign undermining the war on terror. The Fourth Estate is beginning to look like a Fifth Column.

It's hard to imagine a major American newspaper in 1942 announcing before the Battle of Midway that we had broken the Imperial Japanese code or before D-Day that the Allies had a machine that let us read the Nazis' highest-level transmissions.

Yet in the war on terror, that's exactly the kind of information that papers like the Times and The Washington Post, in the name of the "people's right to know," have provided our jihadist enemy -- from stories on secret CIA prisons where our mortal enemies are held to wiretaps on al-Qaida operatives and their U.S. contacts.

Where was the defense of the "people's right to know" when the issue was who "revealed" the name of CIA desk jockey Valerie Plame and her Bush-bashing, mint tea-drinking husband, Joe Wilson? Then the issue was who was placing our covert agents in jeopardy and who should be indicted and sent to federal prison.

But when it comes to the Post disclosing classified information on CIA prisons, which we hope exist, or the Times telling the world that the CIA uses its own airline service, disguised as a private charter company, to move prisoners around, hey, that's Pulitzer Prize material.

Last May, the Times reported in painstaking detail on how "the civilian planes can go places American military craft would not be welcome." These revelations prompted widespread protests in Europe and elsewhere with demands for investigations into and the curtailing of these operations.

It is hard to see how making public this information in the middle of a war helps, say, a housewife in Des Moines. By compromising these weapons in the war on terror, it only places the American people in greater jeopardy. But it's easy to see how this information aids al-Qaida.

The Times finds itself in the unique position of publishing classified information at the same time it insists that terrorists in contact with their operatives in the U.S. have an expectation of privacy while plotting their next attack.

In its Dec. 16 story reporting that the National Security Agency eavesdropped on calls between terrorist suspects abroad and residents of the U.S. -- a practice that is not only legal and constitutional, but also has broken up several terrorist plots -- it alerted al-Qaida that we might be listening in.

As damaging as the story was, its timing was curious, to say the least. If the "people's right to know" was so important, why did the Times sit on the story for a year, only to publish it on the eve of the debate on renewing the Patriot Act, inciting a brouhaha that also drowned out the good news of Iraq's successful and violence-free election of a permanent government?

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, says he knows of two senators who decided to vote against renewing the Patriot Act in its present form based on the Times piece. Did the Times intend to strip us of this vital tool in the war on terror by revealing a clandestine, successful operation that has thwarted another 9-11?

We enjoy press and other freedoms only because we have successfully defended our nation from those who would take away our freedoms, and our lives.

But with freedom comes responsibility.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was a great read...

a snapshot of the
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the driving force behind the NSA story, and it seems to permeate today's Demo party to it's very soul...(emphasis mine)

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Journalists Should Expose Secrets, Not Keep Them
Norman Solomon
Huffington Post
12.29.2005

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From all indications, the Times had the basic story in hand before the election in November 2004, when Bush defeated challenger John Kerry. In other words, if those running the New York Times had behaved like journalists instead of political players -- if they had exposed this momentous secret instead of keeping it -- there are good reasons to believe the outcome of the presidential election might have been different.

Huffington Post


Of course, as Mr. Solomon fails to grasp, had the NY Times "behaved like journalists instead of political players", John Kerry would have been ridden out of town on a rail.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Mr. Solomon is actually serious (and we all know he isn't), wouldn't he also be demanding the full and immediate release of the Barrett Report?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why does the 'Grey Lady Down' refer to the NY Times?
For years I was under the impression that this was the code phrase for a submarine is distress. Applying this phrase to an institution that is so dead set against the military and the policies of the USA is doing an insult to every submariner that has ever been on a boat in trouble.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LewWaters wrote:
If Mr. Solomon is actually serious (and we all know he isn't), wouldn't he also be demanding the full and immediate release of the Barrett Report?


We all know it will never happen as long as the moonbats own the media... >,<
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BuffaloJack wrote:
Why does the 'Grey Lady Down' refer to the NY Times?.

Grey Lady has long been a nickname for the Times, as is ie Foggy Bottum for the State Department...
no idea of the origin
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The NYT has long been called The Old Gray Lady. I've heard various reasons for that nickname. Most often it is said that because the Times used to be mainly pages of print without pictures it looked gray.
Another says that the Times was long the paper of record and was very staid and conservative (like an old lady).
Maybe the nickname is a combination of these two.

It certainly is far from conservative today. Arthur "Pinch" Sulzburger inherited the paper from his father and became Publisher in 1996.
That's when the paper went really "Left". "Pinch" was a radical hippie war protester in the 60's and still holds those radical views today, saying he is leading a REVOLUTION.
Read all about "Pinch" here:
http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1821

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Sulzberger's parents divorced when he was five, and much of his childhood was spent living with wealthy relatives. As an adolescent he moved in with his father in Manhattan, grew his hair long, became immersed in the 1960s counter-culture and was twice arrested in anti-Vietnam War demonstrations.

During this era Punch Sulzberger asked his activist son an odd question, wrote Wall Street Journal ethics columnist Harry Stein in 2000: If an American soldier runs into a North Vietnamese soldier, which would you like to see get shot?

"I would want to see the American get shot," replied the young man who today controls The New York Times. "It's the other guy's country." We now know, of course, that most of those fighting against Americans in then-South Vietnam were soldiers invading from another country, Communist North Vietnam.

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