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Me#1You#10
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 Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:03 am Post subject: T. Lipscomb: The Truth, John Kerry, and The New York Times |
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Thanks to Lew Waters for the timely posting of this terrific Lipscomb article. Give RealClearPolitics a hit and enjoy this tremendous broadside against Kerry, the New York Times and Kate Zernike...
| Quote: | June 05, 2006
The Truth, John Kerry, and The New York Times
By Thomas Lipscomb
Kate Zernike's story on the front page of the Memorial Day Sunday New York Times, "Kerry Pressing Swift Boat Case Long After Loss," is an unfortunate reminder of the Times's embarrassingly poor coverage of Kerry in the face of the Swift Boat Veterans' for Truth charges in the 2004 election. Now as then, the Times acts as if the issues involved were between Kerry's latest representations of his record and the "unsubstantiated" charges of the Swift Boat group. The Times used the term "unsubstantiated" more than twenty times during its election coverage and continues to make no discernable effort to examine any of the charges in detail.
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In any case, it is time for some tough reporting to evaluate the Kerry's claims as listed in Zernike's article. I will be following up with several other key incidents which appear to be widely at variance with these claims. These will include what appears to be the current state of the evidence about the "skimmer" operation Kerry has decided to put in play again and the greatest newspaper coverup in modern history.
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fortdixlover
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: T. Lipscomb: The Truth, John Kerry, and The New York Tim |
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| Quote: | June 05, 2006
The Truth, John Kerry, and The New York Times
By Thomas Lipscomb
Kate Zernike's story on the front page of the Memorial Day Sunday New York Times, "Kerry Pressing Swift Boat Case Long After Loss," is an unfortunate reminder of the Times's embarrassingly poor coverage of Kerry in the face of the Swift Boat Veterans' for Truth charges in the 2004 election. Now as then, the Times acts as if the issues involved were between Kerry's latest representations of his record and the "unsubstantiated" charges of the Swift Boat group. The Times used the term "unsubstantiated" more than twenty times during its election coverage and continues to make no discernable effort to examine any of the charges in detail. |
Regarding the MSM's intellectual sloppiness regarding what the word "substantiated" means, it's going to put 'em out of business. They'd call the value of the airplane wing in enabling flight "unsubstantiated" if it suited their purposes.
Unfortunately for them, folks, it ain't April 22, 1971 no more!
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Me#1You#10
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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While I must admit to some disappointment that Powerline took no note of the Strib editorial over the weekend (they did have distractions), they're out of the starting gate early on this Lipscomb article and find the time to, once again, take the strib to task.
| Quote: | Swiftboating the New York Times
That's "Swiftboating" -- as John Hinderaker defines it: "when a veteran says somehthing that liberals disagree with." Kate Zernike is John Kerry's latest mainstream media stenographer regarding his service in Vietnam. I wrote briefly about her New York Times article in "Return of the magic hat" and called on Tom Lipscomb to rise to the bait:Preparing for another grab at the brass ring, John Kerry seeks to engage the claims of the Swift Boat veterans. In today's New York Times, the "magic hat" -- the hat that Kerry claims was tossed to him by the "special forces" (apparently Navy SEALS) he dropped off on his journey to Cambodia (formerly dated to Christmas Eve 1968, now to February 1969) -- magically reappears. The story [now behind the TimesSelect shield] by Kate Zernike is "Kerry pressing Swift Boat case long after loss."
The "magic hat" made its last appearance in Laura Blumenfeld's June 2003 Washington Post profile of Kerry. In Blumenfeld's piece, Kerry stated it was his "good luck hat" and that it had been given to him by "a CIA guy as we went in for a special mission to Cambodia." Does Kerry save it to impress the lady reporters? I'd like to see him pull it on Tom Lipscomb... Today Lipscomb -- a real journalist who served as New York chairman of the Vietnam Veterans Leadership Program -- reports for duty with a fine column: "The truth, John Kerry and the New York Times." Here's the beauty part:
Zernike appears to have made no effort to look at any record besides listing Kerry's latest assertions with obligatory quotes from the usual Swiftie suspects to provide "balance." She doesn't appear to be aware of the hilarious inconsistency of the Kerry hat story she recites dutifully as if this was the very first time the hat had appeared in print. As the clips should have shown her, Kerry first pulled the famous hat out of a "secret compartment" for Washington Post reporter Laura Blumenfeld's feature story in 2003. "My good luck hat," Kerry told Blumenfeld, "given to me by a CIA guy." Now he tells Zernike a "special operations team" member gave it to him on a secret "mission that records say was to insert Navy Seals" in February.
Once again Zernike cites a Kerry claim as fact, this time directly conflicting with the Washington Post account on the record. But the facts on this are already on the record and no matter what Kerry "researchers" may come up with they should be addressed by any reporter attempting a review of the dispute. Admiral Roy Hoffman may have been head of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, but he was also in command of all the Swift Boat operations in Vietnam, directly under the commander of all sea operations in Vietnam, Admiral Elmo Zumwalt.
Any tasking for insertions of special operations troops across borders by sea, whether Seals, CIA, Army Special Forces or Vietnamese troops like CIDG had to come through his command. Hoffman stated he was never asked to handle missions for the CIA. "They had their own teams for that. And none of my Coastal Commands ever inserted any troops of this kind into Cambodia. We had some operations we ran north that I am not at liberty to discuss."
Orders for sensitive incursion operations like this don't appear by magic. And an individual boat commander, whether it is Kerry or anyone else, doesn't simply head across a border with a boatful of Seals on his own. Kerry's direct commander at An Thoi, George Elliott, has denied ever being asked to run such a mission out of his base and three of Kerry's PCF 44 crewmen have denied ever being in Cambodia with Kerry.
Tedd Peck, accompanied Kerry's PCF 44 on his PCF 57 from Cam Ranh down to their new assignment at An Thoi where they arrived on December 8, 1968. Peck served there with Kerry until he was wounded and med-evaced out on January 29, 1969. Douglas Brinkley states that "Kerry liked Peck." So what does Peck have to say about secret missions out of An Thoi to Cambodia? "There never was one. And I never saw a Navy Seal at An Thoi the whole time I served there with Kerry"
What does it take to wake up a good reporter that there are some issues here besides one junior lieutenant's latest assertions on the basis, once again, of totally undisclosed records? It isn't simply a matter of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth "lies." The facts recited by Kerry make no military sense, fly in direct opposition to authoritative testimony, and are yet to be backed by any records anyone has seen. And Kerry keeps changing his story.
The mission Kerry described to Laura Blumenfeld was the famous "Christmas in Cambodia" trip since disproved by Kerry's own log. Zernike ledes with "showing the entry in a log he kept from 1969: 'Feb 12: 0800 run to Cambodia'" and swallows it unquestioningly. The only authority that "Kerry log" has ever had is that it has been in the sole possession of John Kerry and carefully kept away from objective research that may or not have disclosed changes or heavy editing over time. Everything that Tom Lipscomb writes about Zernike applies even more so to hacks such as Star Tribune deputy editorial page editor Jim "Boydot" Boyd, who castigated John and me as smear artists after the Star Tribune published an August 2004 op-ed column we wrote on Kerry's bogus journey to Cambodia. Over the weekend Boydot seems to have rejoined the fray with a typically fact-free and inaccurate Star Tribune editorial that would be an embarassment to a serious newspaper ("No candidate should have to endure what Kerry got"). Our own close encounter with Boydot in August 2004 gave rise to an extended series of posts providing a glimpse into the wacky world of the fellow we dubbed the cowardly lion of Portland Avenue:
(ed. The following are hyperlinked in the original article)
"The Empire strikes back"
"A further response to Jim Boyd"
"Waiting for Boydot"
"Boydot's hermeneutics"
"Boydot's epistemology"
"Boydot's judgment"
"Boydot's paradox"
"The Star Tribune's putrid verbiage"
At Democracy Project Bruce Kesler takes up Lipscomb's column today: "The New York Times can't handle the truth." And over at Swanblog Peter Swanson briefly recalls: "Kerry, Boyd and 2004."
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LewWaters
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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I emailed Thomas Lipscomb last evening basically thanking him for the article and mentioning Kerry's smoke screen over the Form 180s.
His reply;
| Quote: | I have reported on the 180 all along. Google it and see.
But I am doing a special piece on it soon (emphasis added by me)
Thanks for writing
Thomas H. Lipscomb |
I am eagerly looking forward to this article from him on the 180  |
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J. Toy
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This was in the comments section at Beldar's blog on his last post, (from October '05. It appears he's been ill and hasn't posted since then).
The comment is in reference to the recent NYT article on fraud boy.
Beldar...hurry back...Thomas Lipscomb is hosting a weenie roast...
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/06/the_truth_john_kerry_and_the_n.html
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| Beldar is a formidable intellect and wordsmith. Sure hope he's OK. |
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any news on the lipscomb article about the 180 form?
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