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goswiftsgo · Seaman Recruit Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 12

Everyone will be watching. This would be the best time to show the commercials !!! Right before some of the generals supporting Bush speak !!! Wow, that would be beautiful !

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

No - the Swifts are not supporters of the President.

There are Democrats, Independents, Greens and Constitutionalists among the Swifts.

They are united only in the attempt to tell the truth about John Kerry's actions during and following the Vietnam war.
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joe_madeup · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 92

But the Swift Vets aren't about Bush or the Republicans.

They are only about setting the record straight on their unit, which means - exposing John Kerry. Only that. From what I understand, many of the Swift Vets are Democrats and/or Independents, so an association with the RNC would not go over too well - as well as being the very illegal thing that the Kerry campaign is (falsely) accusing them of.

You GottaBeKidding · Rear Admiral Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692

It would be suicide for any Swifties to so much as attend the RNC, much less speak there. The Swifties absolutely have to stay away from anything that could be interpreted as supporting Bush. The farther away the RNC and the Swifties stay from each other, the better.

Polaris · Rear Admiral Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626

Everyone,

NO. Absolutely not. If we were to show up for any GOP function or support any GOP candidate (even Bush), it would cheapen everything we are and stand for even it it were legal (which I am almost certain it would not be).
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goswiftsgo · Seaman Recruit Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 12

Because Swift Vets for Truth is an independent organization, it should use the full power of its reach and support president Bush ! I mean you guys don't want John Kerry right ? I'm sure you guys don't want us voting for Nader ! Swift Boat Vets should endorse president Bush !

Or wait is that a violation of the election laws ? Darn stupid rules. This would have been a killer endorsement !

efuseakay · Ensign Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 64

Democrats and Liberals alike want the Swifties to attend the GOP Convention... too bad the GOP and the Swifties aren't stupid.

notjfk · Seaman Recruit Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 37

It truly is a sad thing that people are not looking at the evidence of what the Swiftys are saying, rather they (well, I guess the media) are only trying to scrutinize their political position.

It seems to me, that WHO CARES if they support Bush (and I know that they do not officially), but, honestly, what if BUSH HIMSELF knew some stuff and brought forth some evidence against Kerry? - I suppose Kerry and the liberal media would just say "oh, he's just a Bush supporter" ???

I mean, it is completely idiotic to say that someones argument is invalid simply because they are on the side of the people that support the argument. It's almost illogical. Am I missing something here? Why is the Kerry camp and the liberal media so concerned about who the Swiftys support for President? Kerry just seems to put forth the notion that we should assume all the allegations are false, so therefore, whoever is behind them is wrong, so maybe thats why hes making a big deal saying Bush is behind it, because in his mind Bush would be at fault (because in his mind, he would have us to automatically believe that the allegations are false).

HOWEVER, what if the allegations are TRUE? I would be interested to know what Kerry would say, if some journalist asked him a question like this,

"Sen. Kerry, you are saying that Bush is at fault for being behind this Swiftvet thing, and even that whoever behind it is wrong. Lets just say, for the sake of argument, that the allegations are true. Would the supporters of SwiftVets, Bush or no Bush, not then be justifiable in their bringing out of what they have said? Then wouldnt the only thing that they would be guilty of is revealing the truth to the American people? So, Sen. Kerry, doesnt the crux of this thing hang on whether or not the allegations are true? Isn't that the main issue? If they are false, then whoever is behind them are definitely in the wrong, and should be repremanded as such. But if they are true, then they are not in the wrong. So, Sen. Kerry, the one thing that you can do to stop this whole thing, and to show that whoever is behind the SwiftVets is in the wrong, is to Falsify every alligation that you find so offensive, then we will know that whoever is behind the SwiftVets is in the wrong. Then, and only then, will we know that what the SwiftVets are doing is wrong."

I wish someone would ask him this!!!!!!!!!
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4moreyears · Former Member Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 591

Let history record that Michael Moore-on went to the DNC. That speaks volumns.

SBVFT's agenda is to stop kerry from ascending to CiC status The RNC can get along next week with out the swifties stealing the lime light.
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nightingale97 · Ensign Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 50 Location: Texas

I agree that Swifties should not go anywhere near NYC during the RNC. By the way, Michael Moore looked totally out of place in the Presidential Box at the DNC.
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goswiftsgo · Seaman Recruit Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 12

I think he went to hang out with his buddy Chris Capt Caveman Matthews ! I was watching Scarborough the other night and they showed a DNC commercial, you see that guy smile like he was in heaven ? Yeah sure, he ain't taken sides !

tvaughan · Seaman Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 182

In Matthews defense, I don't think he's ever even pretended to be anything other than a democrat.

I can't think of a worse idea than SBVFT having anything to do with the RNC.
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IamHG · Ensign Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 69

Yes I agree. The power of the swiftboat vets message is that it is a simple statement of truth, not a political endorsment.

While I do not think that GW should distance himself from you guys, I think it might be helpful for him to take this opportunity to focus the country on his senate voting record. The two messages compliment each other perfectly. He is anti-defence, anti-intel community, anti national security.
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