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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000 · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:48 pm Post subject: Any Iraq war veterans here?

Was wondering what the veterans of Desert Storm and the second Iraq war think of Kerry's actions during/after Vietnam after having read about them in Unfit For Command.

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ArmyWife · Lieutenant Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 218

I'm not a veteran myself, but my husband has served in both Iraq wars. I don't speak for him, but you can guess at our dinner table conversations by the number of posts you see under my moniker in these forums.

Today's military forces are led almost entirely by Vietnam Vets...think of Generals Tommy Franks and Norman Schwarzkopf here...and Kerry's tesitimony that war crimes were not only common in Vietnam but were also known by officers up and down the chain of command, implicates both of them. Today's soldiers aren't buying that for a minute.

Today's soldiers are shocked at the revelation that award citations can be re-written, let alone all of the other alleged exaggerations by John Kerry.

Most of all, the soldiers in Iraq write home that they believe in what they are doing over there...this is NO Vietnam War in their minds and they don't appreciate people trying to make it sound like it is.

buffman · LCDR Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 437

I did, I despise the creep. He betrayed the unwritten code of honor between troops that fought in a war. There are officers out there now that are trying their best to get in and get their medals then get out, and getting higher medals than what they deserve. Fortunately, sane officers and the enlisted see this and know it for what it is worth.
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Tony · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 9:42 pm Post subject:

I served in Desert Shield and also did Earnest Will ops (boardings) aboard a cruiser in the Persian Gulf (which was my second deployment to the gulf - first was 1989). I think the same thing that many of those who served before me do. Kerry is unfit for command - something I knew before I read the book. To be honest - I based this not on what I know now - but the fact that he tried to represent himself early on in the campaign as having the support of veterans and also some of the cheap shots he took at GWB's service. Only later - when I learned the truth about JK, did I realize how much I really don't want him as President.
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Grampa · Lt.Jg. Joined: 20 May 2004 Posts: 143 Location: Eureka, CA

ATACKM · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject:

As a Gulf War Veteran and firm supporter of GWB as CIC I'm apalled that this is the best that the Democratic party could come up with. It is embarrasing to think that He (JF'N K) has made it this far. What a slap in the face of the Veterans that have given so much to this great nation, although nothing should suprise me as I remember watching Bill Clinton standing on the beaches of Normandy honoring veterans at the D-Day aniversary. I usually don't question someones military record but WTF everyone needs to go down to the local V.A. hospital and conduct a poll as to how many Purple Hearts these veterans have won. You had those injured and those Hard Core Soldiers that just refused to leave there fellow soldiers. What a discrace to his fellow soldier to first leave country early and second to condem there actions with propaganda after leaving them behind. He is a real piece of work. He is a traitor, and a discrace. I'm Army but I always see any military as being a positive trait for the office of President. The Navy has my greatest respect as do all the branches and while I would love to see a Vietnam Vet in office,,,,,This is not the one......
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hull · Seaman Recruit Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 2

I continue to be amazed at the response (or lack thereof) by the mainstream media. Who is out there asking for Kerry's military records? Who is trying to balance the condemning remarks made post Vietnam with his proposed actions in Iraq? NOBODY! He made his record the centerpiece of the campaign-- but the left-wing bias of our media only shows its true colors by refraining from true investigative reporting. I say, more power to you guys (Swiftboate Vets)! You earned the right to speak your peace. godspeed!

USWORHOCKEY · Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 11:42 pm Post subject:

I am someone who could be in the civilian workforce very shortly if kerry wins. I have never doubted our direction for the past twelve years, this issue is a dealbreaker for myself and many others.
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joe_madeup · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 92

Everyone please just tell their military spouses/friends to send in their ballots early!! MSM are still pretty unified in Kerry's favor and if they keep it up, it will be a tight election. Remember Florida in 2000, where some military ballots arrived after the deadline (or not by election day).

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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000 · Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2004 4:29 pm Post subject:

I cant imagine that our troops in Iraq would honestly want to back Kerry, at best he promised them he would cut and run in 6 months (something i dont see the our troops supporting) at worst Kerry a traitor to his own men and would be inclined to do the same to our boys in Iraq.
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