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nickb Lt.Jg.
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 122
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:16 am Post subject: |
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even the Republicans are backing away from Zell.
After gauging the harsh reaction from Democrats and Republicans alike to Sen. Zell Miller’s keynote address at the Republican National Convention, the Bush campaign — led by the first lady — backed away Thursday from Miller’s savage attack on Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, insisting that the estranged Democrat was speaking only for himself.
Late Thursday, Miller and his wife were removed from the list of dignitaries who would be sitting in the first family’s box during the president’s acceptance speech later in the evening. Scott Stanzel, a spokesman for the Bush campaign, said Miller was not in the box because the campaign had scheduled him to do too many television interviews.
There was no explanation, however, for why Miller would be giving multiple interviews during Bush’s acceptance speech, or what channels would snub the president in favor of Miller. Nor was it made clear why Miller’s wife also was not allowed to take her place in the president’s box 24 hours after his deeply personal denunciation of his own party’s nominee.
The change was made only a few hours after Laura Bush, asked about Miller’s speech, said in an interview with NBC News that “I don’t know that we share that point of view.” Aides to President Bush and his campaign said Miller was not speaking for all Republicans.
..of course it's from msnbc.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5897622 |
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Aides to President Bush and his campaign said Miller was not speaking for all Republicans. |
According to Zell Miller and Edward Koch, Kerry obviously isn't speaking for all Democrats, either  _________________ Clark County Conservative |
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nickb Lt.Jg.
Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Posts: 122
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:24 am Post subject: |
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LewWaters wrote: | Quote: | Aides to President Bush and his campaign said Miller was not speaking for all Republicans. |
According to Zell Miller and Edward Koch, Kerry obviously isn't speaking for all Democrats, either  |
I hope not. but then again, my party has no real chance of winning the election. |
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wednesdaychild PO3
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 276
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:30 am Post subject: |
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This was one of the best speeches i have ever heard in my life. This man said all the things i wish i could say, if i had a microphone.
i will never forget"what are they going to fight with- spit balls?" What a foreceful man and a hell of a marine.
The dem party must be secretly cringing to see thier under belly exposed as he did so well, yes he exposed the Michael moore democatic party we currently have running for pres.
God bless Zel miller.
God bless america. Maybe some of those that hate him have never heard a good old fashioned fire and brime stone speech. well they heard one last night.
hope someone listens _________________ "...for the good of believing in life after birth..."
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joe_madeup Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 92
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Agree. He really ripped the mask off the current crop of Democrats. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Wednesday, I'll bet a whole lot of people were listening!
Like you, I think it is one of the best political speeches I've ever heard in my life!
I wouldn't have any heartburn with a President Zell Miller or a President Lieberman... people who understand that our defense is our top priority. People who understand that even though we make mistakes, we are not the cause of every evil in the world.
This may inspire the real Democrats to take back their party - to marginalize the socialists and Marxists and those who blame America first and have had the temerity to call on the UN to "ensure that our elections are fair." Those who have accused this President of misleading us into war for personal gain.
The moonbats have taken over the party.
 _________________ ~ Echo Juliet ~
Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother |
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sevry Commander
Joined: 13 Aug 2004 Posts: 326
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:33 am Post subject: |
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wednesdaychild wrote: | This was one of the best speeches i have ever heard in my life. This man said all the things i wish i could say, if i had a microphone.
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A) I sort of understand the Dem on these boards, and among the Swift vets. Zell is a man of principle, of honor, although I don't agree with him on certain issues. But now I can see how one might be a Democrat. But I don't think you guys are going to get your Party back. On the other hand, I suppose the Dem might say to a conservative Reaganite Republican that you won't get a prime-time spot at a convention, or get the whole-hearted backing of the President. But on the latter, of course, that's not true, or at least wasn't in his first term. The Arnold's of the world don't need to convince me, we need to convince them.
B) And I was heartened to see the way he handled Matthews, after Matthews tried to put words in Malkin's mouth over UFC, and then chastized her because she DIDN'T say what he wanted, and then booted her off the show. What a class act. Well, Zell was a class act. And that's why he berated Matthews. Lots more need to do that. Let them all be angry, and show again how petty and vicious a Matthews can be, as when he didn't like what was said in UFC, which HE HADN'T EVEN READ!
Do you know WHAT she's talking about, Chris? Did you read the book, Chris? Does MSNBC have even one single copy of its own, Chris? YES or NOOOOOO!, Chris! |
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Ohio Voter PO2
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 360
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:14 am Post subject: |
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I have a dumb question, What is MSM?
BTW I agree with your statement.
jataylor11 wrote: | I find it interesting that liberal democrats and the MSM are so quick to call truth hate.
Could be that they hate hearing the truth? |
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Kathy Kay Ensign
Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 58 Location: Lake Charles, Louisiana
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:20 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Ohio Voter"]I have a dumb question, What is MSM?
Main stream media |
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debewley Ensign
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 69 Location: Florida Panhandle
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:35 am Post subject: |
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When I moved to this county in the Florida Panhandle in 1976 there was one local office held by a Republican and there were no Republican primaries because there just weren't any Republicans to run. Now just the opposite is true. There are no Democrats holding office locally and there is no Democratic primary for local positions.
The inexorable run to the left by the Democrats has been responsible for this. People here haven't left the party but the party has left them. This is no longer the party of Harry Truman and FDR.
Zell Miller was correct in his assessment. Unfortunately, those who most need to hear his words are also the ones who will least likely listen. _________________ Served with US Army in Americal Division 2/69 to 9/70. |
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odietz Seaman Recruit
Joined: 02 Aug 2004 Posts: 6
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:35 pm Post subject: Zell |
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After reading the Washington Post this morning, I believe I see the new strategy. Zell Miller is crazy, drunk, or on drugs, way too angry, and basically a cranky, crotchety old man who needs to go live in an old-folks home. Talk about shooting the messenger! |
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Tom Poole Vice Admiral
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 914 Location: America
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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I'd like to see a link for that Post article, as I'm sure others here also would. Most if not all of us consider Zell someone to look up to for leadership and the older he gets, the smarter he gets. _________________ '58 Airedale HMR(L)-261 VMO-2 |
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Malvern Seaman Recruit
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 31 Location: PA
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:58 pm Post subject: Zell Miller |
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Hey Ft. Campbell. That was great.
Quote: | "Give 'em, Hell, Zell!". |
I think before too long, that's what people will be calling Zell Miller, "Give 'm Hell Zell."
Malvern _________________ Malvern
Proud Navy Brat |
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Malvern Seaman Recruit
Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 31 Location: PA
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:50 pm Post subject: Wash Post and Zell Miller |
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Quote: | After reading the Washington Post this morning, I believe I see the new strategy. Zell Miller is crazy, drunk, or on drugs, way too angry, and basically a cranky, crotchety old man who needs to go live in an old-folks home. Talk about shooting the messenger! |
That's pretty much why our guy Ollie North calls the Washington Post the "Washington Com-post."
Am I the only one missing something here? Zell Miller has spent his life in public service, within the Democratic party. He gave all he had for our country within the Democratic party. And they wonder why he might be just a little annoyed?
He was (is) a Marine. He started off his speech taking about those who accuse our country and military of "occupation." Our military have NEVER, NEVER, NEVER occupied any country….. EVER!!! Anyone who has ever even equated, much less accused our country and our military with occupation rather than liberation is, in my mind, treasonous. I personally would like to smack Nancy Pelosi, and every dem who has accused us of occupying Iraq.
Was he angry about Kerry's voting record? You bet! Did he have the right to be angry? You bet he did! But was it the truth? You bet it was? Was it an attack? Absolutely not! Since when is the truth an attack? Apparently only when a democrat is being challenged. He backed up everything, ie: each challenge, with facts.
Do I worry about my two children, and two grandsons (one of whom is named "Walker")? Just as much as Zell Miller worries about his family, and just as much as every clear thinking person worries about his/her family.
We are living in truly desperate times.
Malvern _________________ Malvern
Proud Navy Brat |
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Tom Poole Vice Admiral
Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 914 Location: America
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Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Semantics and nuances. I hate 'em. John Stewart aired clips of President Bush saying something like the Iraqis don't like being "occupied" as proof that we are occupying. What comedy. What foolishness. Some really stupid folks will accept such clips as proof. We need to ensure that America takes the long view. Forcing our presence to protect the people for a short period of time IS NOT OCCUPATION! And John Stewart know it. And everyone with IQs over 90 know it. _________________ '58 Airedale HMR(L)-261 VMO-2 |
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