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amyforamerica
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Zell is an 'old southern democrat'. As a Georgian I can tell you that here in the south 'democrat' is still the party of Pres. Roosevelt. Unfortunately for the rest of the country 'democrat' has been transformed into something that I'm sure Pres. Roosevelt would want no part of.
Although a believer in social programs, Roosevelt never intended for these programs to evolve the way they have-----a way for the lazy and mindless to live off the sweat of the working class.
Zell is still a Roosevelt democrat and I applaud him for not abandoning his party. He is faithful to the great men and ideologies that made up the democtratic party of old. |
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Cali-HeyGirl
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Rdtf wrote: | It was awesome! I clapped in my living room over and over! wow! Loved the part about '.. .no one should ever consider becomming Cdr and Chief if they don't believe their military is liberating and not occupying...' or something like that. (Refering to Kerry's behavior after Vietnam, people prtotesting or buring the flag and the soldiers that gave the idiots that abuse that right the right to do it). Or, maybe the spitball comment was the best  |
OOH-YAH!
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oflyboy
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As an old Vietnam Vet with a Kerry/Fonda scar, listening to Zell Miller's speech made me feel almost healed. I will be completly healed when Kerry is defeated in November.
Thanks Swith Boat Veterans for Truth. |
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minnie presley
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| Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:24 pm Post subject: re zell and bush speaking |
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| on c-span the night zell gave his speech, some of the calls came from canada after the show, and they were saying that they were standing and cheering when zell made his speech, then when bush made his speech, two callers a man and women on different calls, also from canada, said they were cheering bush, and even cried, they were so moved they all said both speeches were great, this from canadians, I hope the rest of america wakes up and see that traitor for what he is |
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minnie presley
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:04 am Post subject: zell campaign for bush |
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| I have heard him say several times when he appeared on hannity that he wi;; be campaigning vigorously for bush in the south and around the country |
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arymann
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:21 am Post subject: |
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It's time for the Bubbas of the world to unite and stand up and fight!
Battlecry of the Bubbas: I'm mad as Zell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!
From the Charlotte Observer Opinion Page, Posted on Sat, Sep. 04, 2004
| Quote: | Zell Miller: The secret weapon to woo Bubba
Testosterone-drenched speech rallied faithful, excited undecideds
KATHLEEN PARKER
Tribune Media Services
NEW YORK - Note to Howard Dean: About that Bubba vote? Two words. Zell Miller.
Wonder no more what gets the good ol' boys' juices flowing, and don't pay no never mind to them talking heads on this question. The answer is this: real men taking charge, talking straight, telling truth, and leaving the girlie men to fuss about the nuances of terrorist sensitivity.
Miller's fiery, brimstone-studded speech on the penultimate night of the Republican convention was a quintessential testosterone moment that got professional harrumphers flustered and swing voters inspired. While pundits wondered whether Zell was over the top, too hot or too tough, heartland Americans were high-fiving and arm-pumping yessssssssss.
Out beyond the Beltway and other bluster zones, Americans have been waiting for someone to articulate the unvarnished truth. To them, the crossover senator from Georgia was a burning bush. Sure, he spoke Republican and was hyperbolic in condemning John Kerry. Hawkish and hawk-faced, his blunt speech wasn't just red meat; it was steak tartare.
But his Marine anger and paternal sincerity rang true, while the message he delivered -- in the voice of father, grandfather and great-grandfather -- spoke to deeper truths that many Americans feel even if they haven't been able to articulate them. The world changed on Sept. 11, 2001, and the old modes no longer work. The old political templates and loyalties do not apply.
That understanding prompted Miller to abandon his party to endorse President George W. Bush for re-election. Saying he believes Bush is the best man for this historic and dangerous moment, Miller spoke to and for other like-minded parents, as well as for other ticked-off vets.
"And like you, I ask which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower and, yes, the backbone to best protect my family? ... There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust their future, and that man's name is George W. Bush."
Speeches such as Miller's don't play well in certain sophisticated circles. He's got that funny accent, after all. And, in the vernacular of his native South, t'weren't nothin' nuanced about Miller's speech. However, there's nothing nuanced about terrorists who hijack airplanes and plow them into buildings; who blow up buses filled with children; who sever the heads of kidnap victims for prime-time recruiting films.
What such times call for are the qualities and strategies Miller colorfully described: "No matter what spider hole they may hide in or what rock they crawl under, George Bush wants to grab terrorists by the throat and not let them go to get a better grip."
That sounds about right. One can argue with others -- or oneself if you're Kerry -- about how the Democrats would have handled Sept. 11, whether they would have taken the war to Iraq, or how they might negotiate current vulnerabilities. But I suspect Miller's passionate recitation of Kerry's Senate voting record against military spending measures, as well as his own voluntary exile from a party he claims puts partisanship above national security, produced a new wave of closet Republicans -- that is, voters who may register Democrat but who know in their hearts that life is fragile in unfamiliar ways and who prefer the devil they know.
Following Wednesday night's performance, commentators wondered portentously whether Miller's speech might have Unintended Consequences. Most likely it had the exact consequences Miller and Republican organizers had hoped for. Witness Ohioans in the wings.
As Chris Matthews of "Hardball" challenged Miller about some of his claims, provoking Miller to say he wished men could still challenge each other to duel, pollster Frank Luntz was interviewing a group of Ohio swing voters, who described Miller's speech as: fantastic, very upbeat, energetic, surprising, focused on the family, powerful but one-sided, intellectual, dynamic and on-target. Only one woman said he was "totally overboard."
In other words, Miller played well in places where spin is a cycle on the washer. If there were any Bubbas undecided before Miller, there aren't anymore. You can bet your duck blind on that.
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Kathleen Parker is an Orlando Sentinel columnist. Write her c/o Tribune Media Services, 435 N. Michigan Ave. Suite 600, Chicago, IL 60611 or by e-mail at kparker@kparker.com, although she cannot respond to all mail individually. |
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Raven
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:49 am Post subject: |
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I loved everything about Zell Miller's speech - he went after the truth of Kerry's continued voting against defense, he talked about the self-indulgence that has overtaken the Democrat party, and he talked about the value of freedom and the respect we owe those who defend this glorious country.
But what I loved most of all was to finally, after repeatedly hearing/watching girly-man politicos over the years, to see a man with some balls who speaks with a passion and truth so sorely needed in today's political arena. I am female, and I am entirely sick of the mealy-mouthed, feminized verbiage that comes out of the mouths of so many male leaders in this country who seek only to appease their voting contingencies, rather than to address the hard realities we face both nationally and globally.
God bless Zell Miller. This country is the better for him having spoken as he did.
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EricaC
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His speech was awesome. His voice reminds me of an ole southern baptist.
Like I said to my friends, First the Swift Boats vets, now Zell Miller, John Kerry's goose is cooked....
Them ole Leathernecks just dont hold their tongues *hehe*
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carpro
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Zell Miller reminds me of Texas 30 years ago.
Republicans were almost unheard of. There were two kinds of Democrats...liberal and conservative. And all of them were Americans first.
Like Zell.
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The Balloon Artist
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| carpro wrote: | Zell Miller reminds me of Texas 30 years ago.
Republicans were almost unheard of. There were two kinds of Democrats...liberal and conservative. And all of them were Americans first.
Like Zell. |
Exactly and when the liberals took over the democratic party we went to the right.
People ran as democrats until the late 70's early 80's just to get elected.
No more. Other than Austin the republicans are owning this state.
I doubt there are any more democrats like Zell.
Maybe even a Roosevelt/Truman Democrat? "Give 'em "ZELL"
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arymann
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| Raven wrote: | I am female, and I am entirely sick of the mealy-mouthed, feminized verbiage that comes out of the mouths of so many male leaders in this country who seek only to appease their voting contingencies, rather than to address the hard realities we face both nationally and globally.
God bless Zell Miller. This country is the better for him having spoken as he did. |
Ditto from another female. Metrosexuals, Girly-Men, whatever you want to call them, these times call for real men. Give me the swaggering, the straight-talking, the freedom loving, take no prisoners, John Wayne types any day! |
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GatorVet
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:29 pm Post subject: Sen. Zell Miller - Comment Here |
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 I listened to every minute -every word counted and made sense. He even put the Governator, Arnold S. in the dust. VP Cheney didn't have to rant like a Dean after Sen Miller spoke. He just had to underline and expand a little, and he did that well.
Our Dems weren't as hard on him as the British media probably was. One article in the Daily Mail of London described him as "Jed Clampett". More Lib/Socialist putdowns there, that's all.
I was glad to see him up there and swinging for the fences. I hope he does campaign for the President. It may not benefit him in a Dem Primary in GA, but he will have stood up for the truth.
Where can I get one of those blue Kerry stickers/logos? |
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Big Kahuna
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Zell made a great speach. An old Southern Democrat is far from a Liberal Democrat. Heck, they're more to the right than NE Republicans.
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arymann
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Gator, Zell isn't running again. He came out of retirement to fill the unexpired term of Sen. Paul Coverdell, who died in office. He was then elected to a special term which expires this year. He plans to resume his retirement at that point.
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God and Country
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| Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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The ballon artist, you are 100% right on your post. God bless America and President Bush.
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