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Stacman
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I don't really care who did/said what, where they came from, how they got there, or anything else. Just so long as they go full circle right back to Kerry.
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Sonar5
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Here is my take on this:
hmmmm... Makes me wonder, how about you???
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lrb111
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Sonar5 wrote: | typical msm crap....
Talk to 50 or 100 people that disagree with you, but quote one moron libdem who is sympathetic to the story....
can't wait to see the evidence....
Muhahahahaha...... |
Killian even named folks that flew and roomed with GWB. But the MSM "can't find anyone".....
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well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast. |
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neverforget
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| Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ord33 wrote: | Mary Mapes (CBS Producer in Dallas) is the lady Hannity was referring to
INTERVIEWING With Killian...his son is saying that CBS contacted him, and that he said his father had nothing but good things to say about Bush and such..Very interesting interview!!!
This is from some blog where I searched for Mary Mapes...
http://williamkaminsky.typepad.com/too_many_worlds/2004/05/
Also, for all you journalism junkies who like the "inside baseball" of how a major media outlet (in this case CBS News's 60 Minutes II) interacts with the Pentagon as it's about to break a big scandal, here's the exchange between Charlie and Mary Mapes, the producer of the 60 Minutes II story that appeared last week.
Ms. Mapes's key point is her claim that 60 Minutes II sat on the story at the Pentagon's request for over 2 weeks, showing it only after they discovered the photographs were about to leak in other media outlets and after they informed the Pentagon of this fact and of their intent to air the report finally.
CHARLIE ROSE: Mary, let me just go first to you. Tell me about this story coming to 60 Minutes II because it has gotten such enormous play---how it came to you---and the relationship---because Dan [Rather] said at the end of the broadcast that there had been communication with the military, and you had been sitting on the story for whatever reason.
MARY MAPES: Well, we first got word of this---I think it was in mid-February---and I work with an associate producer Dana Roberson---Dana got the first tip---and we ended up chasing it, chasing it halfway around the world and back again. Trying not just to chase the rumors of it, but---but to find out what the reality of it. And in the beginning, a lot of it was whispered accounts of pictures that existed somewhere, an investigation that was going somewhere against someone, and we were able luckily to narrow that down and get our hands on the pictures which really gave us our first real hard proof that this was real.
CHARLIE ROSE: And what was the conflict within? Tell me about the journalistic decision to go with it. I mean, what did you need before you were willing to go with it? How much pressure was there not to do... to do it? What kind of communication with the Pentagon?
MARY MAPES: Well, we were always going to go with the story. I mean, once we had the facts of the story and the pictures and---and what we felt the context in which we could put the story, we were ready to go with it. When we contacted the Army, and I think this was the---we delayed the story 2 weeks as part of the process and continued to gather information along the way---but---when we first spoke with the Army about providing a spokesperson, which they felt they needed to do, they didn’t have anyone on hand they said who could speak to us at a high enough level about it and ultimately they asked: Please, could you wait until we have a general here or someone who could speak knowledgeably about it. And they also raised concerns about the hostages and Fallujah and the situation in Iraq. And we thought it would be the better part of valor to defer the story for a week, which we did. And then the second week came along and we kind of got the same sort of response from the Pentagon, that they wanted more time for the hostage or Fallujah situation to play itself out, and we got from high levels in the Pentagon a request that we hold it. And then the third week, the week we ran it, we made the decision early on that we were going to run it, in part because---and we had spoken to the Pentagon about this---the pictures were beginning to leak out and the story was beginning to leak out, and it was, um, time to go. |
The Pentagon through their investigative services had been investigating Abu Ghraib since the previous November 2003.
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Nomorelies
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sleeplessinseattle
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:33 am Post subject: agenda driven freaks |
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| Quote: | Sonar5: typical msm crap....
Talk to 50 or 100 people that disagree with you, but quote one moron libdem who is sympathetic to the story....
can't wait to see the evidence....
Muhahahahaha...... |
Hmmm...does this sound vaguely familiar...almost a pattern...254 Swift Vets say one thing...6 or 8 say another...uhhhhhhh...we're going with the 6 or 8 and lambasting and smearing all the others...yeah, that's the ticket...and no one will know...uh huh....and my wife is uhh...Morgan Fairchild...
Who do they think we are - dolts? We know what they've proven to be - agenda driven freaks caught in an objective journalists' bodies...Rather is yearning to be FREE and to hang off an oil tanker with his Greenpeace compatriots...he just may soon get his wish - have a lot more time to do that...hahaha
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Tilly
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So, Mary Mapes is the chickie who broke the Abu Garib stories ... and now the forged memo.
I see she got an award for individual achievement.
Remember ... Peter Arnette also got a Pulitzer for revealing US war crimes ... then it was proved he fabricated it.
Remember ... Jason Blair used to be highly respected at the NYT's.
I seem to remember that some of the Abu Garib photo's were picked out of a Hungarian web site, although others were not. That blew over, didn't it?
Ms. Mapes had better be able to produce an original memo, and identify her sources this time.  |
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