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$10K REWARD if you can recreate Documents on 1972 technology

 
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Sonar5
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:40 am    Post subject: $10K REWARD if you can recreate Documents on 1972 technology Reply with quote

$10,000 REWARD if you can recreate CBS Forged Documents using 1972 technology.

Well, another website has raised the Gauntlet on this:

From:
http://defeatjohnjohn.com/pageone.htm

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The $10,000 Question
This is incredible. Even know that we know for a fact that the documents are forged, that no typewriter existed that could have made those raised tiny "th"s (let alone the specific proportionally spaced fonts, 13pt default line spacing, etc.), even when the Associated Press and other news outlets are (finally) running stories about the forgeries, CBS is standing by their lies. This is getting beyond aggravating to being truly scary. ("We are at war with Eurasia. We have always been at war with Eurasia." - 1984)

Dan Rather gave a statement an hour ago in which he said "I know that this story is true" and that "the documents are authentic; we wouldn't have gone to air if they would not have been." Asked about whether CBS would consider a retraction, Rather said it was "not even discussed, nor should it be" and blamed the controversy only on "those who don't like the story." CBS issued a statement shortly afterwards that insisted they used "independent handwriting and forensic document experts" (though refusing to say who, which is odd since no network or paper has been able to find a single document expert even willing to allow for the possibility that these documents are genuine), and that they're not even going to look into it, arrogantly stating "no internal investigation is underway at CBS News nor is one planned."

So, for anyone still willing to consider that these documents are anything other than cheap, childish forgeries, I am offering $10,000 right now to anyone who can find for me a typewriter from 1972 that could have reasonably made those documents. Payment will be made in the form of a cashiers check to the first individual who can do this. The typewriter must be using the same proportionally spaced font as the CBS documents, the same curly-quotation marks, the same impossible superscripted "th"s, the same 13-point line spacing, and create a document that looks as much (or more) like the alleged forgeries than does a Microsoft Word document with default fonts and margins.

If you think you can do this, email defeatjohnjohn@hotmail.com and collect your reward. And yes, I am serious.


Absolutely Brilliant.....

This will blow Blather out of the water.... Look for legs on this, and why can't CBS, a huge company find some old typewruter to recreate this...

Keep up the heat.

This site has raised about $17,600 in pledges thus far, and makes some good points regarding the memos.

Regards,
Joe

PS - Mods, I figured $10,000 in Cash deserved at least its own thread.. Wink
If not feel free to lock it, and I will post it in one of the others... At least i posted it in Geedunk.... Smile Thanks..

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This will sink Blather even quicker:

http://www.thestate.com/mld/thestate/news/special_packages/election2004/9633814.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He needs to make that a PRESS RELEASE and send it to AP, UPI and REUTERS.

Personally, I think going for the space shot is a better bet. You're much more likely to make it.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

..hmmm-mm, I just know I've got an old electric typewriter up in the attic somewhere, not a selectric - an "electric"...... seeing I started out with a keyboard in 1967 on the manual Royal and have worked on everything since, this should be a piece of cake, huh? Y'know, when the thread took off here, I was at work & could only look at it as we are forbidden to interact on the net at work -- I kept seeing people say "font" and it was driving me nuts -- we didn't have "fonts" -- we had "pitch". Courier (might have been Gothic) 10 and Elite 12. The little "balls" were called "elements." No proportional, no super/subscripts. Even to this day, I prefer to turn off the auto super/subscripts and use the "th" actual size, in line with the text...!

Hopefully someone will break this once and for all and let the pieces fall!!
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this a run on Selectric Typewriters on Ebay or what? Watch out everybody.

http://search.ebay.com/ibm-typewriter_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsbrftogZ1QQfromZR10QQsotrZ2QQsosortpropertyZ1QQsosortorderZ1
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

msindependent wrote:
Is this a run on Selectric Typewriters on Ebay or what? Watch out everybody.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I found an IBM Composer for 99 cents!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41816&item=3839419995&rd=1
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wing Wiper wrote:
Hey, I found an IBM Composer for 99 cents!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41816&item=3839419995&rd=1


I just sent the seller a message informing him/her of the $17,600 reward referenced earlier in this thread. I'll advise if I get a response.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sent an email about this to Drudge and Fox news. I think if we hammer it, the media might pick it up. It says alot if no one comes forward for the reward.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You bet it will say a lot. It's the Pepsi Challenge, and nobody wants to play. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

look at the picture of the typing on this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41816&item=3838133586&rd=1
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Ghost wrote:
look at the picture of the typing on this one



and that is the "improved" model. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a great site that compares print from that machine to the forged memos:

http://shapeofdays.typepad.com/the_shape_of_days/2004/09/the_ibm_selectr.html

It's pretty clear that the memos couldn't have been typed on that machine.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey YGTBKidding, thanks for the great link. There can be no doubt, based on the centering issue alone that these documents or forgeries. The greater fraud now appears to be Rather and CBS. It's going to be fun watching their well deserved squirming.

It's a new day. The internet and the great bloggers are now able to fight back on these biased talking heads that feed us their skewed version of news. They have been caught on this one by the great minds and lovers of truth on the net. Thanks to all for the great work.

The others in the MSM have been given a wake up call that someone is now looking over their shoulder. We must keep up our due-diligence on the the suspect stories they try to feed us.
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