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Doc Jerry · Commander Joined: 28 May 2004 Posts: 339

Great article in Washington Times yesterday entitle, "Whitewashing the Kerry Record." Nice mention of Swiftees too.

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20040909-083012-6599r.htm

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coldwarvet · Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 11:37 pm Post subject:

Great article.
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larrygj · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:01 am Post subject:

This justifiably damning exposé of the NYT and Washington Post, coupled with the Dan Rather implosion, make Election 2004 a watershed year: the beginning of the end of Old Media. Oh sure, they'll be bloviating for maybe another few years to ever-shrinking readerships, but for the news and independent thinking, people will look to the rich landscape of the Internet and get the news fresh and real. I submit that the reason most people are still keeping their newspaper subscriptions to leftie newspapers is because of the sports pages or the movie listings. That's the only reason I keep taking 1 of the 2 commie papers available in Seattle.

The reason Rather and CBS got so quickly exposed as frauds is because of the many bloggers who intersect with talk radio and cable TV (God, what would we do without FOX?). We don't need institutionalized pundits and reporters any more interpreting for us, or getting to news sources that in the past we couldn't get to ourselves. Grassroots democracy is coming back to "We, The People," and I dare say, nothing infuriates the liberal condescending elite more than that. How can they any longer, with their greater intellect and moral superiority, tell us what to do and think if we don't listen to them? Their jobs and their special jealous priesthoods of "access" are at stake. But all the honest, do-the-hard-work journalism is now mostly found only on the blogs (with a few minor exceptions in the dying print media, such as Krauthammer), talk radio, and Cable TV. Rock stars like Mark Steyn and Billy Kristol are easily available via your keyboard, for free...ain't it great?

Viva la revolución, baby! Cool

Nomorelies · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:10 am Post subject:

The single most important thing that keeps the MSM in business is advertisers. In my business I made a decision last year to totally revamp the media in which I advertise. My first and most important venue is my website. Then, I only advertise in non-political local "of-interest" magazines and door hangers. I have cut all radio and newspaper advertising 100% gone. My choices for advertising do not have editorials at all. When car dealers and other big advertisers stop using the MSM and start offering their products and services on the internet the MSM will collapse and to that I say good riddance. I have no intention of supporting journalistic imperialism with my advertising dollars. All it would take would be 20% fewer advertising dollars spent with the MSM to send them down the toilet. We need to make sure that we spend our dollars with merchants who only market their products and services through non-journalistic media.
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sdonions · PO3 Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 294

I whole heartedly agree.

This morning I received a call from the telemarketers from the KC Star (another Liberal paper) and the gal said there was no way anyone could refuse the offer they were having. For only a dollar a week I could get the paper delivered. When I let her know that I was not interested she insisted to know the reason. I let her know that I was through with the bias liberal slated rag that they were selling.

MAXX · Ensign Joined: 31 Aug 2004 Posts: 68

Larrygj,
while I would concur with your conclusions of the numbered days for the MSM I would like to give credit where credit is due : The Washington Post might be called "somewhat liberal", nuanced but I usually don't perceive their content as grossly unfair - such as CBS, NYT and all the other left-wing Blather out there..

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Wing Wiper · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 12:26 am Post subject:

sdonions · PO3 Joined: 21 Jul 2004 Posts: 294

Yea it shut her up fast. Like I hit her across the mouth with a fresh mackrel.

army72 · Seaman Joined: 06 Sep 2004 Posts: 182

In similar fashion, a young lady with an ACT t-shirt came to my door and wanted to ask a series of questions about voting. I let her ask a few questions before laughing and telling her what I thought of her candidate. I asked her a few pointed questions about her ACT group and whether they were out gathering support for her guy or getting people to vote which she claimed at first. She refused to answer and denied that the group was supporting Kerry. I was holding the local newspaper that told they were coming through the area and their affiliation to Kerry. I guess they think only their questions apply and lying is ok. My wife thought I was being rude until she read the article and understood.

Billman · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:23 am Post subject:

LarryGJ, greetings from Magnolia. I get the Seattle P-I strictly for local news, sports and the funny papers (which they call "Opinion"). Maybe you caught Joel Connelly's column last week:

larrygj · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:36 am Post subject:

Billman,

What arrogance and stupidity not to admit his mistake. I plan to cancel my Seattle Times subscription that does nothing but parrot the NYT and AP party line, maybe you should consider doing the same to the Seattle P.I., or as I like to call it, the Peoples Ignorance.

Fortunately, thanks to the Internet, their control over what I get in the way of news is zero.

Larry

Stevie · Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 10:18 am Post subject:

I only get the sunday paper for the ads and coupons.... they've told me for years they don't deliver just sundays.... so I just threw them out.... the last time they called for me to renew - that's the condition I gave them ....I'd renew if I could get sunday only (here it costs as much for me to go buy a sunday paper and I live so far out, it isn't worth the gas it would cost me).... any way, they finally agreed.... my paperperson looses his/her mind about every month and unsubscribes me... they started it back up again and started leaving the m-s papers, so I just let them pile up in the driveway.... after about a week, they went back to delivering sunday only. Even on Sunday I throw everything out except the coupons and store ads.... I quit reading that stuff 3 yrs ago!
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tfiks · Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:48 am Post subject: Puget Sound's terrible papers

It's interesting to hear the complaints about the Seattle Times and P-I. I live in Tacoma, where one would think the proximity to Ft Lewis and McCord AFB would moderate the knee-jerk liberalism of the Tacoma News Tribune.
No such luck.
I've emailed the news editor, David Zeeck, a number of times about the biased SBVT coverage and he's hopeless. The editorial page editor, David Seago, is totally uninformed about anything that isn't in the NYT or the AP wire. After reading the Tacoma News Tribune religiously for almost 45 years, I'm about ready to cancel my subscription. I just can't bring myself, however, to shut myself off from all of the community news that's in the paper. I'm in a quandary.

shadowy1 · Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 4:22 am Post subject:

I haven't read my local paper in years, but I'm going to subscribe to the Wall Street Journal because they have a conservative editorial page. I also saw where National Review Online needs contributions because some Islamofascist sued them (they won). I'm going to try to be better about sending some money to these online sites I enjoy. I want to see them stay in business.