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Anybody Watch The Group After The VV Rally On CSPAN?
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ord33
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hahaha...THis gets funnier by the minute.

Cecil Roberts, Pres. United Mine Workers of America, is the guy who went nuts in Racine, WV and handed the gun to Kerry. He went on the rampage and said "When John Kerry was dodging bullets in Vietnam, George Bush and Dick Cheney were dodging the draft in the United States,". Interestingly, he just so happens to be on the Advisory Board of the Group. This is absolutely ridiculous the amount of connections!

http://www.ljworld.com/section/worldnation/story/180708
http://www.veteransinstitute.com/program.htm

Update: Yet another connection among the board members - virtually every member is involved.
Major General Randolph Jayne - Co-Coordinator Of Missouri Veterans For Kerry
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:FsvUfEXo3swJ:www.rickjohnson.com/pr_072204.html+%22Randolph+Jayne%22+%22kerry%22&hl=en
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make it one more on the list with DIRECT connections with the Kerry Campaign. Brenda Reed is the Veteran Coordinator for Kerry in Iowa. She also happens to be on the advisory board of the group.

http://www.johnkerry.com/communities/veterans/state_coordinators.html
http://www.veteransinstitute.com/program.htm

Update: This is the LEAST direct connection I have found so far, yet if it was the SwiftVets, the media would be all over it.
Gen. A.. A. Verrengia, USAF (Retired) - Advisor Of Veteran Institute
He is a member of the Texas Veterans For Kerry. Which believe it or not is the least direct connection of those I've checked so far. I dont think it would constitute being tied directlly to his campaign, but obviously we know who he supports! http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0511f.html
(His position as an advisor can be found on the above veterans institute link)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh for heaven's sake!

They couldn't find a few vets that DIDN'T have paid positions on the campaign to speak at this thing?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJB wrote:
Bystander wrote:
Stevie, can't supply the names of the 'military' speakers, but the suits were:

Col. Richard Klass (Ret.), Pres., Veterans Institute for Security & Democracy

Gen. Merrill McPeak (Ret.), Former Air Force Chief of Staff 1990-94

Bob Jones, Former Executive Director, AMVets

Heard either Klass or McPeak state that Kerry's picture is displayed in Vietnam because he and McCain went there in a discussion on Pow's/MIA's. Does anyone know if McCain's picture is also displayed? I don't see him in the one I've seen most often.



McPeak was the AF Chief of Staff when I was on active duty. If I remember correctly, McPeak's biggest accomplishment while COS was to have all the uniforms redesigned. That's why we all started looking like bus drivers. *Shesh* Nobody liked that guy - thought he was a real political opportunist.

When I heard he was supporting Kerry, I told my husband "figures."


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Command back in early 70s Albuquerque, New Mexico. Husband
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just keeps getting deeper and deeper. David Cline joined the VVAW in 1970 and is currently the National Coordinator for the VVAW as well as President of Veterans For Peace. I bet you can guess who he is on the Advisory Board of...You guessed it, the group that spoke today.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=%5CSpecialReports%5Carchive%5C200404%5CSPE20040401a.html
http://www.vetpac.org/bio.htm

Another connection: John Feller Commander VFW Post 9127 Des Moines, Iowa is a member of the Advisory Board for the Veterans Alliance For Security & Democracy (www.vetpac.org/bio.htm) and also has met with Kerry.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50479-2004Jan2.html


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MJB, Bystander and others,

Thanks for names etc of those guys at the conferenct today.

What a bunch of spinheads! Those 2 boys were sad..... I feel bad for the one who lost his brother; he said his sister was military also. So why did they join ? Not like there is a draft today... did they think they could pick and choose what war they might want to fight in? maybe he wanted experience as a chaplin.... think there are better ways to get that with his attitude.... actually, I don't think he'll make it as a chaplin even....

I just watched John O'Neil and Buz Patterson on Cspan.... they were both great! you go guys!.... watch out kerry, buz is after you too!

Kerry didn't count on Buz did he? I'm gonna rewatch some of the rally in about 25 min. Boy, that was great! I watched everyone real close (and taped some of it)..... figure some of our posters were there and I probably saw them and don't even know it!

That whole conference was a Kerry thing.... hope he didn't promise either of those young men a cabinet seat.... don't think he'll have any to 'give' away.... Kerry and his people are sure trying to turn this war into another Vietnam War.... we may have to band together across the country to protect the young one's coming back now..... this could get fierce!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I visited that group's website. Not a very detailed thang right now, just a few pages.

Interesting that their join page requires discharge papers along with the application. Guess they are trying to keep out the nutcase fakes which gave the VVAW such a black eye.

If only the VVAW members could have been exposed as fakes 'in real time' back in the 1970's. If only Al Gore had invented the internet sooner! Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:59 am    Post subject: Anybody watch Reply with quote

Does any of this come as a surprise. Dems and Kerry will do and say anything without regard for the truth.

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