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[jim_nyc]

Not a veteran. Don’t feel qualified or worthy to post. But I have donated some money so I hope you will indulge me this one and probably only post.

First thank anyone who may be reading this who has served this country in the armed forces in any capacity. Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Second I believe with all the talk around Bush's guard service it has primed the civilian populace and educated them in the arcane workings of the military. Meaning it will make the nail easier to drive because we now understand when you are officially a soldier and when you are not.

Kerry was officially still a Navy officer under oath to serve this country and obey military laws when he met with the enemy in Paris. That is treason. Now maybe there is some wiggle room but on a very basic level I think the civilian population will be able to grasp that now. I think it is a deal closer.

TV/print/radio ads would be effective in my opinion if released just prior to the debates clearly stating this treasonous act as the fact that it is. It should be on the tip of everyone’s mind as the candidates debate. Maybe, even prompting one of the moderators (fat chance) to ask about it in the debate itself.

Third, prior to that it would be great if the message could be made clear that Kerry's assessment of what would result when the United States withdrew from South Vietnam was wrong in the extreme. Not to be too crass or exploitive but if a TV add contrasting what Kerry actually said at the 1971 congressional hearing juxtaposed with an actual South Vietnamese citizen now living in the USA may make for a powerful indictment on his ability to craft military strategy. It might go some distance in explaining to people who feel the war was wrong why we were there and what horrible things happened when we left.

Finally I wish to extend my most sincere gratitude and best wishes for all of the founding members of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. Regardless of what happens in the election you men have proven your mettle once again. All American citizens are forever in your debt. You can hold your heads high and continue on with your private lives knowing that you did the best you could to right the wrongs and defend our country. Bless you. Bless you all from myself and my children. You are true American heroes.

[SangRun Hunter]

You have good ideas and I wouldn't let the fact you are not vet deter you from posting.

I'm not a vet either, but I love this country and I will stand with the SBVT as I was taught to respect this country and those that served it.

You sound like a person that respects all of that.
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[Theresa Alwood]

There is a forum that is for vets only - so feel free to post!

Thanks for the donation as it is important that the word continue to spread about who and what John Kerry is.

Welcome aboard!
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[noc]

Great words Jim

I hope you decide to stay a while keep posting. You will find that you CAN make a difference.

[Chance]

but I think the fact that Kerry was actually Naval RESERVE should be stressed more often. Maybe I'm off the wall on this but it seems to me that what he did is not much different than what he's trying to accuse Bush of doing. Actually, I would not ever say that I think he (Kerry) served his country courageously. He makes me sick and to think that I would ever compare him with the vets that actually did is a fantasy. This of course is just my opinion as I'm not a vet but am the proud daughter of a WWII vet, the wife of a Viet Nam Vet, and the mother-in-law of 3 wonderful guys who served and/or are now serving. I couldn't be any more proud of all of them, and those of you who did!
Kerry is a big joke in my book!
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Chance

[Hammer2]

[Montana]

Great first post Jim_nyc. I like the way you think
Some of your points are very good.

Many supporters (and neutral folks) say that Kerry
had the right to protest (like so many others). Many
don´t realize that Kerry was a commissioned officer
in the naval reserve during this entire period.

It doesn´t
matter whether he was in a drill status or non-drill status,
active or inactive reserves, selective reserves, standby
reserves or ready reserves. All personnel in all categories
are subject to recall and subject to the Uniform Code
of Military Conduct and the US Constitution. Kerry, as
a commissioned officer in the US Naval Reserve, violated
the UCMJ and the US Constitution. Furthermore,
he did it with impunity (without punishiment or imprisonment).

He gave aid and comfort to the enemy and extended the imprisonment
of our POWs. He also contributed to the extention of the war.

And the list goes on and on.

The point needs to be driven home that Kerry was a commissioned
officer not a civilian. Civilians can do all sorts of things and
get away with it. Kerry took an oath and was still under that oath.

Montana

[LimaCharlie]

[Rdtf]

Ok this is wishful thinking, but, Is there a statute of limitations on charging an officer with the crimes Kerry committed? If a court martial is no longer possible, then it seems the discharge should at least be dishonorable. I just can't understand how he was able to get away with such blatant disrespect for the oaths he took.

[LimaCharlie]

Yes, he should have gone to jail back then. When it occurred, the media, political, and public opinions were against the Viet Nam conflict and growing. It would have been a career ending move to charge him.

Yes, he could probably go to jail now. Look at what happened with Clinton’s impeachment. It would be a career ending move to indict him now. The worldwide combination of the Communists, socialists, appeasers, useful fools, and other far left would be out for blood.

In my opinion, conservatives are outnumbered by liberals. Our only salvation is we vote for our ideas while they rally against our ideas.
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I was going to become an anarchist, but they had too many rules.

[NavyChief]

[one more captins mast]

Read a copy of "Tragic Mountians" by Jane Hamilton'Merritt
published by Indina University Press


tells with tears what his, "only a few" will

suffer if we pull out statement.
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the strange mr aj

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

What is "Tragic Mountains" about, aj? The Montagnards, I'm guessing?
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Altering course to starboard - On Fire, Keep Clear
Navy woman, Navy wife, Navy mother

[jim_nyc]

Thanks for the tip on the book “Tragic Mountains” regarding the fate of the Hmong peoples of Laos. I looked it up on Amazon. I’ll see if it’s at the library.

I know it’s a pipe dream to think Kerry would ever be brought to justice for his treason. Particularly, since it would appear to the general public that Bush was imprisoning his political opponents. Not a good look. The purpose of exposing this festering wound is to merely keep him for being sworn in as POTUS were he has the opportunity once again to break his sworn oath to protect this country from it’s enemies.

Here is the message I would like to see running non stop on all the networks.

Narrator: While a commissioned officer in the United States Naval Reserves John Kerry went to Paris, France, and without the qualified permission or authority to represent the interests of the United States government he negotiated with the enemy, the North Vietcong. His sworn testimony before the UNITED STATES SENATE; COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN RELATIONS, in 1971 proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

John Kerry: I have been to Paris. I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government …….

Narrator: According to the Uniform Code of Military Justice a code he swore an oath to uphold, John Kerry committed treason. That is a very serious charge but the evidence is unarguable. By his own words John Kerry acknowledged he is a traitor. John Kerry, does his oath mean anything at all? Can we take the chance he would keep his oath as president of this great country?

[Rdtf]

Excellent. Wish they'd hammer it into the American public's brain.
Isn't it amazing that something so obvious as this is ignored by so many? That is what makes it so frustrating. Even liberals blinded by what is fueling them should see it and it should matter. It just seems like a no brainer, as simple as 'don't touch the hot stove' or if you try to breath under water you'll die. Welcome to politics, I guess.