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lrb111
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| Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:50 am Post subject: Re: Does this count as proof? |
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| NavyChief wrote: | Looks like our dedicated team who went to the archives today, uncovered a potentially valuable piece of information on the 13 Mar 69 incident.
After action gunfire support message indicates the only wounded or killed VC for all of the 13th were: 1 VC Killed, 5 VC Wounded. Gunfire support was called in and rained down in the area where Kerry said he was under fire -- not a single VC wounded or killed there. The above VC were killed or wounded earlier in the day while supporting the ground troops.
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Sounds like good progress. Were there any reports about the boats, or boat damages?
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J. Toy
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gunfire support? Air?
Could that be what Rassman said he heard?
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NavyChief
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lrb111
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| NavyChief wrote: | Okay, now I see why Kerry was put in for the Bronze Star on the 13th of March. How pathetic!
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we are not whiney dilletente beggars. Spill it Chief!! 
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said Democratic Chairman Terry McAuliffe. "It is inexcusable to mock service and sacrifice."
well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast. |
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stealthy
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What was there on his reserve service?
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Have we seen this post/set of documents before? "Silver Star After Action Report found"?
http://itznewstome.blogspot.com/2004/09/silver-star-after-action-report-found.html
Monday, September 13, 2004
Silver Star After-Action Report Found!
Backs up Swift Vets story...written by John Kerry!
One of my local television stations, Fox - Baltimore, just broadcast a breaking news item: they have received a copy of the After Action report from the US Navy Archives and have posted it online. According to the commentary, they say that the after-action report was written by John Kerry.
The After-Action Report Can be Found Here:
Page 1
Page 2
I'm no expert on after-action reports, so at this point I turn this over to the milibloggers and other experts in the field to further analyze.
NOTE: If you link to this post, please make sure you leave a TrackBack so that I can make sure to follow any additional information you develop. If you cannot leave a TrackBack, e-mail me using the link at the top of the sidebar to keep me up-to-date.
Happy hunting, fellow bloggers!
MY SOURCING: I'm basing this post on the editorial/commentary on Fox - Baltimore. It was publicized on their regular commentary titled "The Point" - the link to which can be found on the right-hand side of their home page. Once you reach "The Point" page, use the drop down box to select "Kerry and the Killing - September 13, 2004 from their archives to view and/or read the commentary on which this post is based.
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NavyChief
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J. Toy
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Chief,
Is it a lock that Kerry authored the fluff? And what about the cover fire from former post? Who called it in and is there confirmation from the other swiftees?
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J. Toy
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playing devils's advocate....
Is there a substantive Kerry autograph on the report?
I understand Thurlow was exhausted, but the reports aren't filed until later.
Why would the CG shell the area afterwards, if no hostiles were left?
Just asking!!!
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Thanks Chief
Your last explanation help me a lot to understand the reports.
I do have one question or observation rather, from what Jack Chenoweth says seems to me that things where pretty calm after the mine exploded under PFC- 3, if there was small arms fire wouldn?t he report that? Or am I just wrong on my observation?
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| If none of the crew of PCF-3 got purple hearts even though they had wounds that were much worse then Kerry's rice-in-the-but, then, it seems to me that it pretty much debunks Kerry's claim that purple hearts were being handed out like candy. |
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ASPB
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Chief,
We need to get this to John O'Neill with the supporting reports.
PM me and we can work out the details. I can call John tomorrow as I've already established a personal relationship with he and his wife.
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