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[army72]

[HardCorps]

Borninthe50s, your post is an honest reflection of misunderstandings that unfortunately far too many Americans have. I do not fault you personally, and I commend your interest in the truth.
However, as someone who has volunteered to lead men into Somalia, then in Iraq, and surely a few more places before I can retire, I am deeply troubled by the praise and misunderstandings about Senator Kerry. Here are a few points that I hope might help you.

1. Every American Serviceman who has to fight in war, hates war more than anyone else could begin to comprehend, including journalists, college protesters, celebrities, or activists. This hatred of war doesn't mean that we think it's not worth fighting for or understanding why we must fight.
Those who think a war is not worth fighting, have a duty to be responsible in their actions and words, and never ever violate their oath to The Constitution, the nation, it's symbols or their men.
Most importantly DO NO HARM to your brothers still fighting, returned or lost.
John Kerry followed none of these things. Instead, the HARM he did to his brothers and nation is immeasurable.

These are not my opinions, these responsibilities are officially written down and Kerry swore a solemn oath to them, and then he broke that oath. Do you really want these Swifties to just forget their oaths and drop the whole thing? How could any American even ask that of them?

If our countrymen violate these simple rules, somehow they can remain citizens, but don't dare ask to take the oath of The Commander in Chief.

2. Your statement is in error, at NO time have the Swift Vets criticized John Kerry for protesting the Vietnam War in a legal and responsible way, and if you disagree I ask you to show me where they have. There absolutely is a good and effective way to strongly protest our wars and practice open vocal dissent (this is the American way and the Democracy we are fighting for in the first place). There are many other Veterans who you don't hear about that protested the Vietnam War without lying, slandering, libeling, perjuring, violating US laws and the constitution, inciting mutiny and desertion. Kerry did all these things more than once. The evidence is overwhelming and straight forward.

3. John Kerry was the most ineffective anti-war leader I have ever seen unless you look at what his actions and words did to aid our enemies (not just the communist Vietnamese) If you study the specific timelines you will see clearly that he abandoned the movement as soon as he had enough notoriety and political capital to get elected. This is not an Anti-war hero I promise you.
In fact, he made war crimes more acceptable since apparently every one was doing it on a “day to day basis”. Kerry’s testimony and movement which was fraught with lies, and this mental virus he helped create, has been passed on for 40 years. Now we have a chance to right this huge betrayal.

I have served in uniform since the 80’s and I can tell you that the myth, the huge lie that John Kerry and the organization he was an executive director for, still has a negative effect on your military in a very real way. You want this man to be President? He has sided with every enemy your nation has had since you were born. No seriously, I have a post on it.

4. Everything that is being said by the Swifties and the other non-partisan groups as to why John Kerry can not under any circumstances become Commander in Chief is so relevant to Iraq and our future in the war on terror. And if it matters I am not a Republican, just someone who is fighting to protect our country.

The only thing I ask you to do if you are going to vote for Kerry (other than not to) is to become informed about what he really did and why.
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[kmudd]

[Nutso]

I too was born in the 50's and for a while I felt the same as born, maybe because it was the 'cool' thing then, maybe I was uninformed. 2 yrs out of high school I joined the Navy and lived and worked with those that served and I learned a great deal of respect and admiriation for them. I now have a son in Iraq and am very proud of my service and his. Vietnam may have been a mistake, but it was OUR mistake and as a country we must stand as one. We cannot have individuals commiting treason by meeting with the enemy, lying to congress and subverting the efforts of OUR country. John Kerry is so lucky he did those things at a time when the country was confused and lost its way. If anyone in our military or just returned from it did what he did today they would suffer severe consequences, as Kerry should still. He is a traitor, he is not a war hero, his record shows he is a weak, ineffectve leader who see's what he is doing as just a goal in his life and really does not take it seriously.
There is a reason that the news lately has been telling us the national guard not able to recruit enough men. The military is also having a problem with re-enlistment of career designated soldiers also. My son has told me many times that the guys in his unit are due to re-enlist, but waiting until after the election. The overwhelming belief is that they will not stay in if Kerry should win. Is it any wonder that the democrats are trying to push a bill quietly to bring back the draft??
Remember peace and freedom have a price, it always has and it probably always will.

[mangdawg]

[kmudd]

[CTW]

[ohanakat]

I too was born in the 50s. In the 40 some or 50 some years we've been alive, there has been ample time to learn a lot more about VN than we saw on the evening news. It's never too late to begin learning and you've certainly found a place where the truth flows freely if you're open to learning it and not too stuck in what you think is the truth.

John Kerry's obsession with his role in VN has reopened the wounds that we all bear from living through this period. It surely was a troubled and confusing time. In the years since, I've learned that I really like hanging out with strong people who have core beliefs that guide them, and I avoid those who think the playing field should be leveled by weakening the strong rather than strengthening the weak. A review of Kerry's public life reveals weak character spent trying to bring others, our whole way of life in fact, down to his level. I'm not buying a ticket on that train!

Kat

[arjr111]

I do not buy for one second that Protestors (and Kerry) saved American lives by ending an "Unwinnable" war.

The war was Winnable, but it was NOT supported.

The Protest Machine lengthened a WINNABLE War, and cost millions of lives, both Asian and American. People are still enslaved in SouthEast Asia as a result of Kerry and Protestor efforts.

The same people (using the same lame arguments) are now attempting to effect a similar outcome, in the War on Terror, and if we elect Kerry we can be assured of their success.
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