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[Adrian Spidle]

A QUESTION FOR MY VIETNAM VETERAN COMRADES
What percentage of Vietnam Vets do you think hate John Kerry?

From my experience it seems to be over 2 out of 3 who hate Kerry. I'd say the percentage is higher among caucasians and lower among people of color.

THIS IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION RIGHT NOW based on the debate I had with other parents at the coffee held at my daughter's school this morning that's held on the first friday of every month.

THEY SIMPLY DON'T BELIEVE ME WHEN I EXPLAIN HOW WE HATE KERRY. They think most Vietnam Vets love Kerry.

"Where's your data?" Is the question I've heard more than once.

Could the Swifties use some of that money they have to commission Gallup or Rasmussen to take such a poll?

Adrian Spidle

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[SangRun Hunter]

I'm not a VN vet by any means, but I don't know any VN vet that would even consider Kerry of teh 10 or so I know.
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[Adrian Spidle]

VIETNAM VETERANS FOR ACADEMIC REFORM

The University of Kansas Student Auxiliary



V.V.A.R.: Leading the student revolt on campus against speech codes, political correctness, multiculturalism, gender feminism, dormitory re-education, lying about Vietnam, and other instruments of academic oppression.



Leonard Magruder - Founder/President

Former professor of psychology - Suffolk College, N.Y.

Member: National Association of Scholars



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LATEST PRESIDENTIAL POLL RESULTS, VIETNAM VETS

This is an ongoing poll. Please send any data to [Deleted by Admin].



Results as of September 20, 2004:

(*** indicates new data)

This data is reported from all over the country. Any group could just as well have preferred Kerry, but so far no group has. Although some groups are small, the fact that all point in the same direction, and very strongly at that, suggests that what this collection is telling us is very significant statistically, and it looks like our estimate now is that 80% of all Vietnam vets oppose Kerry. A front page article in today's paper reports on a new national Knight Ridder-MSNBC poll, which utilized 625 people in its sample. Most other national polls use around 1,000 in their sample of national opinion



For example, if you go to RealClearPolitics.com, which reports on national polls, you will see that Newsweek uses a sample of 1,003, CBS - 905, L.A. Times - 1,352, Harris - 1,012, CNN - 767, etc. There are at least four reports in our "Groups With Data" polls with larger samples than that, allowing us to be quite confident in our above estimate, especially when all reports are added together.



When the opinions of Vietnam vets are added to all other vets in national polls you will see the gap narrowing, but still significantly in favor of Bush. So what this is telling us is that Vietnam vets have some special reason for opposing Kerry, a reason the media should be reporting to the public. But isn't.



GROUPS WITH DATA

§ 6 Vietnam vets this weekend at HS reunion, all oppose Kerry. - Dan Haney, 602nd Air Commando Sq., A1 pilot '67

§ Out of 45 Vietnam veterans... all say pooh on JFK...100% - powmiavets

§ Our heli-vets pol shows 160 against and 6 for Kerry. - Ron Leonard-25th Aviation Battalion

§ I know about 650 Vietnam vets and their attitude toward about Kerry is 100% negative. - Dan Decker, TSgt.USAF (ret.)

§ I know thousands of vets. I would say the opinion is about 98% against Kerry. - Tony Cartlidge-Vietnam Combat Marine- 1968

§ Of 27 Vietnam Veterans I know, including myself, not one is willing to vote for John Kerry. - Charles Banto- USMC 1958-1974 -2 tours in Vietnam

§ 100,000 e-mails, almost all veterans, around 100 to 1 against Kerry. - Don Bendell, Special Forces, Vietnam, 1968-69, noted author

§ Out of 25 guys 85%-95% against Kerry. - Mike- mleonardos

§ 240 vets, mostly Vietnam, 85% against Kerry. - Tony Newcomb, Cpt.U.S.Army (ret.)

§ Of the more than 2500 veterans of all ranks who responded , 59 took umbrage with what I had to say (against Kerry). - Mark A. Smith, former POW, Vietnam, Holder, Distinguished Service Cross

§ An ongoing poll, with names and comments at 11thcavnam.com is running 16 for Bush, 4 for Kerry (80% for Bush).

§ 12 Vietnam vets, all of whom are against John Kerry. - Vietnam vet, Tom Taylor

§ A summary of individual votes sent in to V.V.A.R. is running 12 for Bush, 3 for Kerry.

§ I'd make the numbers 80 to 20 against Kerry. - Philip Topps, Cpt. Inf.(ret), 1st Inf. Div. 69-70

§ 100 against Kerry - 0 for him. - Storrs Warinner- F-4 pilot Ubon 67-68

§ 17th Annual Reunion - out of 55 vets all against Kerry. - Bob Griffin - 101st Abn. Div. Vietnam 1968-69

§ 99 for Bush - 1 for Kerry. - Don Martin, USA, combat aviation

§ Vets - union factory workers - 170 for Bush, 73 for Kerry - Tony Newcomb, Veterans Leadership program

§ ***199 for Bush, 1 for Kerry - flyc54

§ ***151 members for Bush, 6 for Kerry - Kenneth Roberts, SFA64

§ ***For Bush, 3,789 (90%), for Kerry 403 (10%) - Vipers Vietnam Veterans Page, Presidential Poll



GROUPS WITH NO DATA

§ Every vet we know is opposed to Kerry. - Chuck and Mary Schantag, P.O.W. Network

§ Rangers are 100% against Kerry. - noatlmus44 - President

§ Every veterans I've talked to is against Kerry. - Major General Carl Snyder (ret.), Air Force, Korea and Vietnam.

§ I am anti-Kerry, as are most of my friends who are Vietnam veterans. - Stud 369

§ I share the distrust I hear from my veteran colleagues. - Peter McHugh, CW4 USA -67-68,71-72

§ I would say 90% of the military here (power plant) are against Kerry. - P.Rein

§ All the vets I know, probably 50, have no use for Kerry. - John Morrill - Vietnam veteran



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Leonard Magruder

Founder/President, V.V.A.R.

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