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kimberly PO2
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hey you all, I've been working on this all day! and I'm glad you haven't given up on my crazy persistence. I have one more thing out that needs confirming. Keep your fingers and toes crossed;) Not that I would know what to do next? But I'm sure I'd have some help!
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joeshero Commander
Joined: 30 Aug 2004 Posts: 321 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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kimberly wrote: | Hey you all, I've been working on this all day! and I'm glad you haven't given up on my crazy persistence. I have one more thing out that needs confirming. Keep your fingers and toes crossed;) Not that I would know what to do next? But I'm sure I'd have some help!
Kimberly |
Looking forward, Kimberly!! _________________ All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. |
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hanna Rear Admiral
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I keep watching and watching that video that shows him from the side. His right hand is down low. I did the edge effect on a still from that position and it clearly shows he has something in his right hand. His fisted hand is wrapped around it. Then you see a flurry of action down there just before he turns toward the podium. ACK ACK I hate this man!!! |
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oasis Lieutenant
Joined: 21 Aug 2004 Posts: 201 Location: Florida, want some sun? LoL!
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
Quote: | Candidates can take notes with the paper, pens and pencils they prefer, but they must submit them beforehand to debate commission staffers, who will place them on the podium. |
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kimberly PO2
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, if I've missed something, ya'll holler, cause I haven't slept since yesterday...I know....
What we have so far:
1) Kerry takes white piece of paper out of his jacket pocket, places it on the podium and unfolds it. (this is what we've seen, no confirmation)
2) Kerry proceeds to pick up his handy dandy white pen provided by the debate commission and writes, or pretends to write.
3) Kerry, does continue to use the white pen until....
4) Thanks to azpatriot, who has rewatched his own tape of the 'live' fox coverage, "he switches to the black pen almost a whole half an hour into the debate, at least thats when he appears to wip it out."
So, if this is correct, the photo that fox used or was provided was not from the beginning of the debate, but approximately 1/2 hour into the debate.
I don't want to get tooo excited, but can you hear me hollering HELP all the way from OHIO? Now what?
Please don't be afraid to 'burst my bubble', if anyone sees any holes that need fixing, any advice, anything, like I said, I'm sleep deprived....
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kimberly PO2
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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I forgot, azpatriots contribution to #1 as well:
Whatever the thing was that he wiped out at the beggening is rectangular, thin and white colored, he pulls it out while nodding his head with this big grin on his face. Then lay's it on the podium and looks to be flattening it out. I didn't even notice him do it untill I heard of it later and went back and watched my tape and sure enough kaboom there it is.
My sincere thanks to az who has been so very busy, but remembered my much earlier request and took the time to watch the tape.
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kimberly PO2
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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Can I please say one more thing, even if nothing comes of this, I am grateful to each of you for all your efforts and supporting something I started even though you don't know squat about me. It is sooo much appreciated!
Hugs to all of you!
Kimberly |
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SWVTsupporter Ensign
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 51
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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He appears to pull the pen out at 2min 10 seconds and the first time it can be seen clearly is at 5min 27 seconds. This is on the C-Span Podium watch video.
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azpatriot Senior Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 593 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm here to post that all the quote from me by kimbery are true!
I've jsut been kind of busy in a little creative sense
If you use it and have any problem importing just pm me
I would like to also thank user sround for his suggestions in helping me with this.
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krodgr Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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kimberly wrote: | I know, I'm relentless, but when my gut tells me something, especially something isn't right, I trust my instincts. I can't tell you all how much I appreciate your effort to help! |
I read many sites (rarely post except at FreeRepublic) and you are not alone in your drive for the truth.
From what I've read on many sites, many of those who missed it live and have only studied the videos are willing to give in. However, those who saw it with their own 'lying eyes' say no way! Too many people (my hubby included) remember him taking something out and unfolding it...these people won't forget! |
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homesteader PO3
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I still want to know how he got something into his right hand between the time he shook hands with the President and when he is seen with something in his right hand as he reaches into his jacket with his left. Is his left hand visible as he shakes hands? Does he have something in it? Does he transfer something as he goes to the podium? |
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ord33 Rear Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 670 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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If someone could point me in the right direction here, I'd like to help. I recorded the debate from FOX News on a DVD-R. It should be pretty good quality (perhaps better than the C-Span). I would like to post in on my website to offer another place to view the portion where he removes the object from his jacket. Problem is, I dont know what program or what needs to be done to transfer it to my computer. The DVD-R isnt recognized by my laptop. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get this from a DVD-R into a MPG on my computer so I can post it to a website of mine?
If you dont think this will help any please let me know too (I know the C-SPAN coverage is pretty good)! |
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Cheyenne Seaman Recruit
Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 20 Location: South Dakota
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hey everyone...Brit Hume is going to talk about what Kerry took out of his pocket again tonight. I hope it is the truth this time! |
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Cheyenne Seaman Recruit
Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 20 Location: South Dakota
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry guys it was just a Jay Leno skit!
But leading up to it Brit Hume said it was all obvious to everyone at Fox News that it was a pen. BS!! I know what I saw at the first part of the debate and it was not a pen! |
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dmackto Rear Admiral
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 719 Location: Florida
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Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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ord33 wrote: | If someone could point me in the right direction here, I'd like to help. I recorded the debate from FOX News on a DVD-R. It should be pretty good quality (perhaps better than the C-Span). I would like to post in on my website to offer another place to view the portion where he removes the object from his jacket. Problem is, I dont know what program or what needs to be done to transfer it to my computer. The DVD-R isnt recognized by my laptop. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get this from a DVD-R into a MPG on my computer so I can post it to a website of mine?
If you dont think this will help any please let me know too (I know the C-SPAN coverage is pretty good)! |
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