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CTW
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:31 pm    Post subject: OCT SURPRISE... get it done! Reply with quote

OK I am furious this morning. I know many of you have been beyond furious for years.

I have been reading through the FBI files linked here. With all we know about Kerry's activities, his ties with Communist Party activities, his questionable medals, his video taping in Viet Nam , his asscociates and the plotting to kill senators as well as others in their group, etc etc. You all know the story. WHY THE H*** IS HE STILL RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT? WHY IS HE NOT REVEALED FOR WHO HE IS?
WHY CAN WE NOT GET THIS OUT TO THE PUBLIC?
WHY ARE ALL THE ISSUES OF HEALTHCARE, JOBS, STEM CELLS BEING DISCUSSED RATHER THAN SHUTTING HIM DOWN?


No I am not late to the party just losing my patience waiting for some Oct surprise. I have emailed Hannity, and others about these issues MANY times. And I know many of you have sent much more info with more frequency than I. To what end? There is so much effort from so many places and groups but where is the focused concentrated undeniable blitz on him about his anti-war activities?? Shocked I just want to get this done. What can we do? Why is this so difficult? Where is the FBI in this?

The timeline has some indication that Kerry was with the VVAW before he went to Viet Nam. I am still interested in this.

Why are we spending time doing research when the FBI and CIA etc probably did it all? The declassified docs are enough to bury him. Do we need so much effort placed on getting more records that he is blocking? Run with what is known and available. These files are enough to show the public the truth. Are they in newspapers?

Frustrated today. Thanks folks. You are the best! CTW

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be patient, CTW. If sprung too soon, it leaves time for spinning and poisoning public perception about it. Look how they have treated the SBVT ads and Unfit for Command. Without addressing a single comment, they have convinced many that it is the SBVT that are dishonest and lying.

I'm not too sure just what is in the works, but I suspect we will see more than one October Surprise real soon.

Just be patient, hard as it is.
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CTW
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Lew: Smile It is a comfort knowing you are all there.
I subscribe to the notion of not peaking too soon in campaigns. I just need confirmation that "something" truly significant beyond my reach and by "someone" in the right place has this in the bag. Don't we all?

Will Santa leave that new bike? I believe...I believe...I believe....

"oh ye of little faith " comes to mind.

I will try not to fret.. rather put the energy into positive action, just trust, pray and send more emails, books and tapes.

Thanks again Lew. Have a beautiful day! Very Happy CTW

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CTW wrote:
...The timeline has some indication that Kerry was with the VVAW before he went to Viet Nam....The declassified docs are enough to bury him....Are they in newspapers? Frustrated...

I too am in a sputtering, frustrated rage. If the media won't participate, they're culpable in all he did, his current villainy and all he will do if elected. If it's a matter of money, surely someone out there with the resources to counter Soros' propaganda funds can at least expose him for what he is. If not, this country will have been surrendered to a rich poodle with unlimited funds. We have only 22 days left! If he is to be exposed, what are we waiting for?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right on Tom! I knew I wasn't alone. The fact we are hitting this feeling at the same time is significant. CTW

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

let's use our frustration to go after the msm ! we can all email them that we are no longer watching etc.... going to email their affliliates and sponsers and LET'S DO IT ! Idea

we need to email (and maybe regular addresses for some regular mail) listings for CNN, MSNBC and ABC !!! and sjponsers !! Evil or Very Mad

Let's go get 'em !!!!! I'm gonna start writing down sponser names on what I watch today..... unless someone already has a good list ! Smile

Fox hasn't done that well either.... only Major and Brit (well, CHarlies and Fred also).... but wouldn't hurt to send them some emails that we're tired of not getting ALL THE NEWS... they are quilty by omission ! Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:51 pm    Post subject: YES Please! Reply with quote

I hope it Somthing HUGE! I'm starting to worry. They are going to do every thing they can to get the idiot in the White House. We need W more than EVER! I'm in seattle and we are simply over run with kerry ass lickers.
God Bless all our VETS ans ever American standing up to take Kerry OUT!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Poole wrote:
CTW wrote:
...The timeline has some indication that Kerry was with the VVAW before he went to Viet Nam....The declassified docs are enough to bury him....Are they in newspapers? Frustrated...

I too am in a sputtering, frustrated rage. If the media won't participate, they're culpable in all he did, his current villainy and all he will do if elected. If it's a matter of money, surely someone out there with the resources to counter Soros' propaganda funds can at least expose him for what he is. If not, this country will have been surrendered to a rich poodle with unlimited funds. We have only 22 days left! If he is to be exposed, what are we waiting for?



the rich poodles..... let's hit the networks where it hurts - their pocketbooks !!!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GREAT! Let's get it on. The info from the FBI files needs to be clear in these emails etc. IMHO. We need clear and substantiated info. Just asking they investigate, or report etc, seems to only give them ideas and work but not "actionable intel". Some of you experienced writers can be helpful so we can work efficiently.

I feel the people rising...never underestimate Americans. CTW

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what really makes me nervous? I’m afraid that Kerry is going to be elected and then the MSM will realize too late that everything written about him in UFC was true.

The other side of that is that Bush gets reelected (crosses fingers) and the information still gets out about Kerry and the media plays the innocent victim.

I believe that the whole truth about Kerry will be played out in the media; I just hope that it’s not too late.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the mean time, foreign public opinion also is being shaped to the poodle's favor. After I read the following, I could only say to myself "yeah, right, aren't you clever."
NewsMax wrote:
...Bakry Omar said there was no chance war-weary Arabs would get a better deal from John Kerry than from President Bush....
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/10/9/103836.shtml
And now comes the head hog himself, hoping to get through the farmer's door:
NewsMax wrote:
...Michael Moore and his liberal backers are working on a deal to have his Bush-bashing conspiracy movie "Fahrenheit 9/11" piped into millions of households just days before the election....
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/9/211257.shtml

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

S12> I’m afraid that Kerry is going to be elected and
> then the MSM will realize too late that everything
> written about him in UFC was true.


You are giving the legacy media too much credit.
They are strongly leftist and are counting on a
Kerry win to save their decaying businesses.

The corruption has been going on for a half century
or more, and includes the so-called schools of
journalism. Here's a typical one:
http://www.journalism.ku.edu/school/msnvalues.shtml

The NYT, LAT, WaPo, Boston Globe and many other
print newspapers are at least "liberal". The AP and
Reuters are in the same boat. All of the TV news
networks except Fox and the Christian cable/sat
outlets are liberal. If it isn't obvious, CBS is spewing
pure propaganda on Kerry's behalf (the fake Killian
memos, the draft hoax).

Even without the business concerns, these outlets
would be supporting Kerry. Expect them to get more
blatent about their bias as we near the election.

These legacy news orgs are also in financial trouble.
The print papers are losing paying subscribers,
and are resorting to falsly inflating circulation
numbers in an attempt to retain advertisers. The
legacy TV nets are losing share to Fox.

If Kerry wins, the legacy media expect him to save
their sorry butts by eliminating the competition and
restoring the old order of things::
1. Going after Fox / Rupert Murdoch
2. Shutting down talk radio
3. Censoring the internet
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:27 pm    Post subject: Let's take collective action after this is over.. Reply with quote

Boundless wrote:
S12> I’m afraid that Kerry is going to be elected and
> then the MSM will realize too late that everything
> written about him in UFC was true.


You are giving the legacy media too much credit.
They are strongly leftist and are counting on a
Kerry win to save their decaying businesses.

The corruption has been going on for a half century
or more, and includes the so-called schools of
journalism. Here's a typical one:
http://www.journalism.ku.edu/school/msnvalues.shtml

The NYT, LAT, WaPo, Boston Globe and many other
print newspapers are at least "liberal". The AP and
Reuters are in the same boat. All of the TV news
networks except Fox and the Christian cable/sat
outlets are liberal. If it isn't obvious, CBS is spewing
pure propaganda on Kerry's behalf (the fake Killian
memos, the draft hoax).

Even without the business concerns, these outlets
would be supporting Kerry. Expect them to get more
blatent about their bias as we near the election.

These legacy news orgs are also in financial trouble.
The print papers are losing paying subscribers,
and are resorting to falsly inflating circulation
numbers in an attempt to retain advertisers. The
legacy TV nets are losing share to Fox.

If Kerry wins, the legacy media expect him to save
their sorry butts by eliminating the competition and
restoring the old order of things::
1. Going after Fox / Rupert Murdoch
2. Shutting down talk radio
3. Censoring the internet


Irrespectively of who wins the election, the responsible among us should band together and start boycotting MSM at full force. There are enough of us that are starting to get SOOO disenfranchised with all the propaganda alll around us these days!! This surely will have more impact upon future democratic processes than anything else.

Once again, I say:

The swifites were our shock troops, but let's not lose our moral momentum here.

The time is OURS!!!
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Boundless
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Let's take collective action NOW Reply with quote

PL: > Irrespectively of who wins the election, ...

It is vastly more important to act now. If Kerry wins,
it may be too late.

> ... the responsible among us should band
> together and start boycotting MSM at full force.


By all means take a look at all your information sources.

Cancel subscriptions to those with an anti-American
bias. I wouldn't even bother telling them why,
because they need to go out of business, and not
just pretend to reform.

Pick up subscriptions to sources that, if not entirely
aligned with your advocacies, are at least honest
about their point of view. In that regard, by the way,
the news-aggregating page of Free Republic:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse
is very useful. It captures and discusses stories
from a wide variety of sources, including the most
eggregious DNC propaganda sites.

Also pay attention to sponsors. Support those who
support truth. Avoid those who support fraud. Let
them know.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandy12 wrote:
You know what really makes me nervous? I’m afraid that Kerry is going to be elected and then the MSM will realize too late that everything written about him in UFC was true.



Sandy...don't kid yourself...the MSM KNOWS it's true, and they are as guilty now in covering up Kerry's perfidy as they were 33 years ago. They are not only covering for Kerry, they're covering their own journalistic malfeasance and complicity in allowing this preposterous, traiterous FRAUD to rise to an unfathomable level of political viability.
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