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I added my name and sent it to Senator McCain
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:21 am    Post subject: I will take a half a loaf when I can get it "Ronald Rea Reply with quote

“I will take a half a loaf when I can get it” - Ronald Reagan

Please take time to think this through this. If you agree please add your name and send it off to McCain.

http://mccain.senate.gov/

We are a country at war and it is my sincere belief this is going to be a war that will span generations. Basically our enemy is humans that have had doctrine programmed into them much like a program that gets installed into a computer. We have all seen news clips of young male children squatting on the floor chanting away for hours & hours. Believe me it is not…

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
and to the republic for which it stands
one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

I do not know exactly what is said in those chants, perhaps one of you students of Muslim might know and enlighten us with a post. How long do you think it will take before these indoctrination techniqus are ended throughout the Muslim world and girls are added to the class rooms were they are taught positive things about cultures that are different then their own and are allowed to become stakeholders in their own country. We have begun this laboures task and have made progress in several muslim countrys. However, not unlike the cold war this is going to be a long struggle. Unlike the cold war the home land is bound to take some hits along the way.

We can not afford to be a divided nation as we take these hits along the way.

“Indivisible”

We have a long way to go before we can truthfuly use this word as we receipt the american pledge.

I posted a McCain VP poll a few days ago and from the results he is not your favorite guy. He is not my favorite guy either. However the fact he has been able to work through his POW experience and have a friendly relationship with Kerry tells me of how large he is.

June 9, 2004

Dear Senator McCain:

You are truly one of America’s greatest servants as we honor the President Reagan legacy you are poised to create a similar legacy. However the truly great leaders like President Reagan and Senator McCain give no regard to their legacy while serving because it is the service of selfless servants like you that is recorded into history.
With this being said, I have a grave concern for the families of POWs – MIA, veteran and the military community in general. I have been consumed with ever since Senator Kerry announced in Minneapolis on 6/4/04 that he intends to recruit over one million veterans in order to get the veteran vote out for himself. The thought of VFW members voting for Senator Kerry without a full understanding of how Lieutenant Kerry’s VVAW activity was used by the enemy in the effort to break the spirit of POWs and only to be revealed to them after Kerry wins the election. It is my belief if this would to occur the VVAW will have effectively delivered another tragic blow to the POW-MIA Veteran community.
It is my personal belief that the activity of the VVAW was not only used by the enemy in the effort to break the spirit of POWs but it was the major catalyst that poisoned American public opinion against the military and the Vietnam Veterans returning during that period of time. As a Cold War Veteran 11/75 – 7/79 the burden of being a veteran came of my shoulders in 1991 with the successes of the Gulf war.
During my 11/75 induction into the USAF the VVAW was amongst a list of other known anti American subversive groups of that time I was asked about. If I answered yes that I supported the activities of the VVAW do you think I would have been allowed to serve in the Air Force? Kerry’s association with the VVAW has disqualified him to serve as commander and chief.
Senator McCain in this time of great divide between the far left and the far right of this country you have a very broad appeal. By the very fact that Kerry supporters are asking you to join the Kerry ticket is evidence of your ability to bring this great country back together again.
The rift between the left and right is at risk of becoming perpetual without intervention. I believe for the benefit of this great nation the Republican Party needs to replace Vice President Dick Cheney with Senator McCain.
Once you accept the Vice Presidency I would like for you to have a televised chat with surviving POWs of how you were first introduced to Lieutenant Kerry. A recording of this interview then needs to be distributed to all the VFW posts across the country. When the left wing starts claiming about how unfair this tactic is. We will take the high road and tell the American public that the Veteran community has stood in steadfast support of the POW-MIA for over thirty years and deserve to hear the truth before the election.
If this election could be attributed to the past & present members of the military community coming out to the polls in unprecedented numbers to cast their votes with grateful hearts in a way of saying thank you to the POWs-MIA and the other veterans that were mistreated by the VVAW” movement. Many other Americans will also come forward to vote as a means of relieving the guilt they feel from getting swept up into the VVAW dogma of that time.
This will be an historical event that will not be forgotten and will absolutely be there to bring President McCain into the White House in 2008.

With a heart full of gratitude,


SR Jelinek – USAF Veteran 11/75 – 7/79
Proud Navy Father of 1 soon to be 2
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the easiest way to get Kerry elected would be Have McCain run in 2004 against Bush.

Bush would never sign McCain on after the 2000 election and the trouble caused before 9-11 because of the leftover acrimony.

McCain might be able to run in 2008 - but something tells me he won't be running as a member of the GOP.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:03 am    Post subject: Democrates want Hillery Cliton 2008 Reply with quote

Where will this leave room for McCain? His best shot is with the GOP in 2008. Do you really think McCain is going to jump party's to run against Hillery.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No - I think he's gonna Jump party for personal reasons. It's just a gut feeling.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:16 am    Post subject: Left over acrimony Reply with quote

El diablo wrote:
the easiest way to get Kerry elected would be Have McCain run in 2004 against Bush.

Bush would never sign McCain on after the 2000 election and the trouble caused before 9-11 because of the leftover acrimony.

McCain might be able to run in 2008 - but something tells me he won't be running as a member of the GOP.


Do the research where was McCain in 1971? And what was Kerry up to at the same time?. You will soon find out that McCain was being introduced through American newspaper accounts of Kerry’s participation in the VVVAW Vietnam Veteran Against War articles that were presented to him by the enemy in an effort to break his will.

Just the fact Kerry is comfortable enough with McCain to ask him to be VP communicates to me how large of a man McCain is.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do the research where was McCain in 1971? And what was Kerry up to at the same time?. You will soon find out that McCain was being introduced through American newspaper accounts of Kerry’s participation in the VVVAW Vietnam Veteran Against War articles that were presented to him by the enemy in an effort to break his will.


Do some more research you'll find the did break McCain's will.

On the POW/MIA Issue
John McCain, the Republican politician who spent much of the war in Vietnam as a POW, became a friend and ally of Kerry while serving on the same Senate committee. He agreed that there was no ""compelling evidence"" that any prisoners survived the war.


I am not slamming McCain, truth is I feel sorry for him but he is not fit to be either President or Vice President in the Republican or Democrat Party
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have respect for John McCain as a Navy Veteran, Vietnam Veteran, POW and a United States Senator. That's as far as my respect goes for him. As far as his political career and him personally, I feel that he is a pure died in the wool, 'RINO', i.e., Republican In Name Only! I wouldn't trust him as far as I can pick up my old pickup truck and throw it!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

War Dog - that's what I'm sayin.

I get leery when the left stumps behind folks that are GOP.

Frankly I'm surprised he hasn't done a Jumpin Jim Jeffords yet.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I respect his service, and what he gave for this Nation. However he left something over there, his will for a better future, He has become friends with his worst enemy, John Kerry. That does not make him a bad person or less of a man, actually it makes him better to forgive Kerry. He has a lot of hate for Bush over the 2000 primaries which he can't forgive, this makes him less of a man in my book and shows his true loyalties are with the DNC. The humility and torture he endured at the hand of Kerry are far greater than anything Bush could have done to him. He will be a democrat this year, I think after the election so the GOP can't say he tried to sway the election. Semper Fi.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like many of you, I respect Sen. McCain's service and I have always been horrified at the amount of torture he took at the hands of the North Vietnamese captors over all those years.

What he has done since then to discredit the POW/MIA associations and to betray any POW/MIA's and their families is not respectable or honorable, in my opinion.

He was part of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs chaired by Kerry - the one that concluded that the North Vietnamese were being fully cooperative in achieving a full accounting for our missing. That committee has as much credibility with me as the 9-11 Commission.

Anyone in league with John Kerry has some serious problems with loose parts. I don't trust him - not for a minute.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2004 1:06 pm    Post subject: Thanks for the McCain info Reply with quote

Navy_Navy_Navy wrote:
Like many of you, I respect Sen. McCain's service and I have always been horrified at the amount of torture he took at the hands of the North Vietnamese captors over all those years.

What he has done since then to discredit the POW/MIA associations and to betray any POW/MIA's and their families is not respectable or honorable, in my opinion

He was part of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs chaired by Kerry - the one that concluded that the North Vietnamese were being fully cooperative in achieving a full accounting for our missing. That committee has as much credibility with me as the 9-11 Commission.

Anyone in league with John Kerry has some serious problems with loose parts. I don't trust him - not for a minute.


Thank you for your insights into the McCain record. As a father of one Navy son & his brother enlisting this week I am very concerned about the divided state of the country. However it appears to me that McCain has a lot of work to regain your trust and now mine with what I have learned about McCain with the posts on this topic.

Thank you,
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