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Anker-Klanker Admiral
Joined: 04 Sep 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Richardson, TX
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:17 am Post subject: |
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NOTICE. Last night when Brinkley(?) was on, BOR didn't provide an opposing view. Tonight he introduced the good Dr. by saying that the POWs wanted rebuttal time to air their opinions of what was said last night.
OK, score's even!
Except that tonight BOR brings on an opposing view from Pete Peterson.
The Fair & Balanced Score's no longer tied!!
BTW, I thought "our side" was highly convincing. He clearly had no political objective in his remarks (and he got in some good licks). Peterson gets on and it's immediately apparent when he starts spouting the Kerry spin that he's partisan, and highly political. Any objective viewer, I think, would conclude the right thing. |
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kmudd Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 825
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:33 am Post subject: |
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http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/062103.shtml
Among those who harbored a simmering distrust of Kerry was a fellow Vietnam veteran, Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona. McCain, tortured as a prisoner of war in Hanoi, had campaigned for Kerry's opponent in 1984, denouncing the Democrat for joining the veterans who tossed medals and ribbons over a barricade at the Capitol during a 1971 antiwar rally. The North Vietnamese had taunted the American POWs with accounts of that protest. |
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1179 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:22 am Post subject: |
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Peterson, Douglas “Pete” - Former Amb of Vietnam
Fmr Congressman, USAF - FLORIDA
Currently on the Kerry Nat’l Veteran Steering Committee
Was a POW at the Hanoi Hilton, released in 1973.
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Here’s an article about Clinton’s visit to Vietnam & mentions Amb. Peterson: SOURCE
Amb. Douglas "Pete" Peterson departed Hanoi for the U.S. on July 15, 2001, concluding more than four years as America's first post-war ambassador to the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.
(Darn, I missed the show....) |
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Rdtf CNO
Joined: 13 May 2004 Posts: 2209 Location: BUSHville
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:27 am Post subject: |
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Beatrice1000 wrote: | Peterson, Douglas “Pete” - Former Amb of Vietnam
Fmr Congressman, USAF - FLORIDA
Currently on the Kerry Nat’l Veteran Steering Committee
Was a POW at the Hanoi Hilton, released in 1973.
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Here’s an article about Clinton’s visit to Vietnam & mentions Amb. Peterson: SOURCE
Amb. Douglas "Pete" Peterson departed Hanoi for the U.S. on July 15, 2001, concluding more than four years as America's first post-war ambassador to the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.
(Darn, I missed the show....) |
was he the Ambassador to Vietnam when Kerry was on that POW/MIA Commitee?? The one that NavyChief was working on at the time? If so, splains a bunch... |
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RMalloy PO3
Joined: 23 Aug 2004 Posts: 280
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:40 am Post subject: |
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BOR is one of the rats on the SS KERRY TITANIC
Not only is he pissing off all the fair and balanced but
he's losing audiences fast with the alleged sexual
harrasment mess he's mixed up in. Bet it's hurting
his O'Reilly's Kid's book! |
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diane in IL Lt.Jg.
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 102
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 3:47 am Post subject: |
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McNish ROCKS! What a great job. I just wanted to give him a HUGE hug!
Contrary to popular opinion, I think BOR is doing a good job representing both sides. At the very least he is keeping the topic alive. I like the questions he is asking of both guests and the answers from both seem to solidify the positions of the Swiftverts.
I have never been that fond of BOR, but lets not throw the baby out with the bath water. He is one of the few reporters that is willing to even discuss Swiftie issues.
Just my 2 cents.
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Nomorelies Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 977 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Here is the letter I just sent O'Reilly:
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fastrock Lt.Jg.
Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 122 Location: Union, KY
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Ditto on the below Diana
Quote: | McNish ROCKS! What a great job. |
I've fallen of the BOR wagon well over a year ago when he ambushed someone I deeply respected. I stumbled on the McNish interview and verbal BJ that BOR gave Peterson for the first 2 minutes. But then the combative BOR of old kicked in, or Xanax wore off. He took Peterson to task in a C+ manner and rallied to state UFC had factually true assertions which shutdown Peterson for the remainder.
BOR will always be a bum tho.
Quote: | Contrary to popular opinion, I think BOR is doing a good job representing both sides. At the very least he is keeping the topic alive. I like the questions he is asking of both guests and the answers from both seem to solidify the positions of the Swiftverts. |
All in all Diana, I'd offer you marriage if I wasn't already. It's like you read my mind. Are you one of the DuPage County Republicans? Also known as Lil Dick Daley's thorn in the side! _________________ "It is never right to do wrong, even if sanctioned by law" Abe Lincoln
The Last True Cruiser
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Steve Z Rear Admiral
Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 687 Location: West Hartford CT
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:47 am Post subject: McNish on O'Reilly |
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I think that "Nomorelies" should go a little lighter on O'Reilly, at least this once.
To his credit. O'Reilly did keep his normally overbearing trap shut and let McNish and let him make his points without interrupting, and McNish was awesome!
When interviewing Peterson, O'Reilly did say that some of the POW's and Swift Boat Veterans felt that John Kerry "betrayed" them. Peterson had a rather lame argument about "it being a shame" that veterans were arguing with veterans during the political season, to which O'Reilly replied that "this is about John Kerry". He didn't say it, but he implied that Kerry is "fair game"...FINALLY!!!
O'Reilly also acknowledged that the "Swift Boat issue has been going on for months, and won't go away"...thanks to the wonderful persistance of the Swifties!
The Swifties might have finally broken through O'Reilly's resistance--now is no time to alienate him, but hopefully he can help the SBVT message get out. _________________ The traitor will crater! |
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stylin19 Lt.Jg.
Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 122
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:53 am Post subject: |
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I actually thought BO was pretty decent in this segment.
When Peterson said all the swift-vets claims were proven false, BO gave him what aoumts to a "that's not true". _________________ U.S.M.C. - 1969-1971
RVN- 1970-1971 |
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Stevie Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 1451 Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:06 am Post subject: |
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but bor did say some of the ufc facts had been proven false....
which ones???? why won't he tell us that????? is he stuck on what the VC lone man was wearing? his age? come on bor.....
if you're spouting it - get it out there!
go go Swifties - Pounce on him!!!!! call and beg to differ !!!!!
JOhn -- call bor for a point for point debate on what he thinks is false!
And throw in that Kerry hasn't RELEASED his military documents!
bor is listening to brinkley.... binkley said kerry's arm was bleeding and he had a concussion..... all I saw on the medical report was a contusion! (not counting the rice in butt)..... does brinkley NOT KNOW WHAT a contusion is?????? oh, it's a concussion with blood on the arm????? SOMEONE take away Brinkley medical license!!!! Quick!!!! _________________ Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged. |
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Stevie Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 1451 Location: Queen Creek, Arizona
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:09 am Post subject: |
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I heard that bor (on another station like cnn) ratings were up 10%
does anyone have a web address to check the ratings? _________________ Stevie
Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage
morale and undermine the military are saboteurs and should
be arrested, exiled or hanged. |
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mach9 Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 97
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Several points on both interviews. First, Tom was terrific.
But I think we feared Peterson mistakenly. Had forgotten that he's not all that articulate. 1. O'Reilly picked up immediately the fact that Peterson ADMITTED to hearing captors' propaganda--some from the U. S.! Peterson said, stupidly, that it didn't affect him (but proving Tom's point--the VVAW stuff WAS used as propaganda). 2. He mentioned that his wife (Carlotta, if I remember) had "flown around" with Ross Perot, visited SEAsia--as if that were comparable to Kerry's visit to Paris! Jughead O'Reilly never bothered to point out that Perot was "flying around" with the full permission and encouragement of the Nixon White House; Kerry was on his OWN--no authority from, no notification to, the U. S. Govt.
All in all, I think people actually FOLLOWING Peterson's remarks realize he's a shill. |
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Beatrice1000 Resource Specialist
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 1179 Location: Minneapolis, MN
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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About Amb. Peterson:
--JK Committee on POWs - 1991-1993
--Diplomatic/econ. relations restored 1995
--Amb. appointed around 1997: ARTICLE
--Clinton visit to Nam in 2000/pics -greeted by Amb. Peterson
(there’s a Kerry pic in here also...) PICS
--Photo of Clinton, Kerry, Peterson, Berger in 2000: PHOTO |
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Nomorelies Vice Admiral
Joined: 11 Aug 2004 Posts: 977 Location: Texas
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Steve Z
Quote: | I think that "Nomorelies" should go a little lighter on O'Reilly, at least this once. |
This time I do not blame BOR. I DO blame his producers (the people who gather his guest biographic material. BOR doesn't do the grunt work). Someone should have told him more about the background of Pete Peterson. BOR did a decent job and I agree. He did defend Dr. McNish. What bothers me is that he did not disclose Peterson's relationship to the Kerry campaign and I think he will be upset when HE finds out the truth about that. Of course, he has a new producer at the moment..... _________________ Nomorelies Make a donation HERE |
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