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FOX NEWS ALERT: Arab man douses himself/gas and Sets him....
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recieved a phone call earlier today from a friend who is a USSS(US Secret Service Protection detail Special Agent) who indicates there was actually TWO male arab adults who set themselves on fire to protest GW Bush's re-election.they used rags to light themselves on fire with Gas being the igniter/incediary.True story, they only had ONE very small fire extinguisher that was sadly under charged...I am Not Kidding! True story!
bummer.
I weep (when I'm not laughing my ass off!!!)
Call me insensetive and sarcstic....I relish the title,
John the Detective, jihad buster-anti Islamist/counter terrorism Agent and advisor to national Search and rescue teams with pride.I still remember 9-1-01 and the friends I lost, sadly. do you?Plx, NEVER FORGET!!!dont forget my fellow police,civvys and rescue personell.do not forget those who jumped from the upper floors in attempt to evade certain death and the certain death they found.(Rest in Peace Stacy Savage,wTC Tower One, never found but never forgotten....my girlfriend and sweetheart)
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I B Squidly wrote:
The report seems to indicate he set fire to his briefcase not intending himself. He started screaming when he burnt his hand.

I don't think self-immolation is a good strategy for these guys. The buddhists of Saigon had great self discipline and garnered tremendous interest but little effect. I don't think the promise of 72 virgins is enough to keep these guys from becoming pathetic, Screaming Aphas.


I've been thinking for quite awhile that it would be terrible if the terrorists decided not to blow themselves up in crowds. But instead just walked into the desert with a video camera on them, and fired off an explosion.
The US media would be running that sort of thing 24 hours a day. Like they wanted to do with the monks that set themselves on fire.

Maybe the next 40, or so, suicidals will do just that..........
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savage,

No worries, they aren't and won't be forgotten if I have my say. I'm doing a series on images seen on tv from 9-11, acrylic on canvas. It'll be ready for the 5 year anniversary.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

washingtonpost.com
Terror Informant Ignites Himself Near White House
Yemeni Was Upset at Treatment by FBI

By Caryle Murphy and Del Quentin Wilber
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, November 16, 2004; Page A01

A Falls Church man who worked as a federal informant on terrorism set himself on fire in front of the White House yesterday, hours after announcing his suicide attempt and citing his growing despondency over how the FBI managed his case.

Mohamed Alanssi, 52, approached the northwest guardhouse on Pennsylvania Avenue about 2:05 p.m. and asked the security detail to deliver a note to President Bush. When uniformed Secret Service officers turned him away, he stepped about 15 feet from the guard post and used a lighter to ignite his jacket, according to the U.S. Park Police.

Secret Service officers wrestled him to the ground and doused the flames with fire extinguishers. Alanssi was taken to Washington Hospital Center, where he was listed in critical condition with burns over about 30 percent of his body, authorities said.

Alanssi, who is from Yemen and also uses the name Mohamed Alhadrami, recently discussed his work as a federal informant in a series of interviews with The Washington Post. Yesterday morning, he informed the newspaper by faxed letter and by telephone that he was going to "burn my body at unexpected place." He also sent a copy of a letter he said he had faxed to the FBI agent in New York who is handling his case. The Post alerted the agent and provided a copy of the letter.

In two telephone conversations yesterday, Alanssi told a Post reporter that he would provide 10 minutes' advance notice of his suicide attempt and that only then would he reveal the location. When he called a third time, Alanssi said he had poured gasoline and would be setting himself on fire in two minutes, not 10, and it would take place by the White House. The newspaper informed D.C. police, who notified the special operations unit and the U.S. Park Police, which has jurisdiction over Lafayette Square.

In the recent interviews, Alanssi expressed anguish over not being able to visit his family in Yemen. He said that he suffers from diabetes and heart problems and that his wife is seriously ill with stomach cancer. Alanssi said he could not travel to his native country because he has no money and because the FBI, which is expecting him to testify at a terrorism trial in New York, was keeping his Yemeni passport.

"I must travel to Yemen to see my sick wife (stomac cancer) and my family before I testify at the court or any other places," Alanssi wrote FBI agent Robert Fuller in New York, according to the copy he provided the Post yesterday. "Why you don't care about my life and my family's life? Once I testify my family will be killed in Yemen, me too I will be dead man."

The FBI declined to comment on Alanssi's identity or his claims of working with the bureau. "We don't have a policy on revealing who is a cooperator or informing witness," said Joe Valiquette, an FBI spokesman in New York. The U.S. attorney's office in the eastern district of New York, which is prosecuting the terrorism-related trial in January, also declined to comment.

Alanssi, who described himself as a once-successful businessman in Yemen, also said he was upset with the FBI because agents had not kept promises they made to secure his cooperation. Those promises included a large, but unspecified, amount of money, eventual U.S. citizenship and protection of his identity, he said.

Alanssi said that he went to the FBI in New York shortly after the 2001 terrorist attacks and offered information on alleged financers of al Qaeda working in Yemen. He said he quickly became a major informant for the FBI, on occasion traveling to Yemen to gather intelligence.

He volunteered that the FBI paid him $100,000 in 2003. But he said he had been expecting much more because he said some agents told him he would "be a millionaire." And although he was promised permanent residency in this country, he said, he has not received it.

Alanssi said he did not have enough money to pay his medical bills or buy his prescription drugs. He said he recently underwent an operation at a Fairfax hospital to unclog his arteries.

"It is my big mistake that I have cooperated with FBI," he said in a recent interview. "The FBI have already destroyed my life and my family's life and made us in a very danger position . . . I am not crazy to destroy my life and my family's life to get $100,000," he said.

Alanssi also alleged that the FBI had failed to adequately protect his role in a sting operation conducted in Germany in January 2003. That led to the arrest of Mohammed Ali Hassan Moayad, a Yemeni cleric who is slated to go on trial Jan. 10 in New York on charges of providing material support to al Qaeda.

Attorney General John D. Ashcroft told the Senate Judiciary Committee in March 2003 that Moayad had "boasted jihad was his field and trumpeted his involvement in providing money, recruits and supplies to al Qaeda, Hamas and other terrorist groups."

Alanssi said he played an important role in the success of that sting operation by persuading Moayad to travel from Yemen to Frankfort, where the undercover investigation was carried out. Moayad allegedly boasted -- while U.S. and German agents taped the encounter -- of sending money and recruits to al Qaeda.

In a Jan. 5, 2003, affidavit supporting Moayad's arrest warrant, Fuller said that he had been working with an informant since November 2001. He described him as a Yemeni citizen who had provided reliable information and who had "contributed, in part, to the arrests of 20 individuals and the seizure of over $1 million."

Alanssi's identity was leaked, along with details of his role, and the case was the subject of a Washington Post story in 2003 and accounts in the Yemeni press. As a result, Alanssi said, his family had been harassed and threatened in Yemen, where Moayad, 55, is a prominent leader in Islamist circles.

A short, stocky man, Alanssi said that he was in the United States on a visitor's visa seeking business opportunities when the 2001 terrorist attacks took place. He said that he worked for the U.S. Embassy in Yemen in the mid-1970s and that he was angered by the attacks because he likes Americans.

He also saw an opportunity, he said, to pursue his dream of making it in business in this country.

In recent interviews with the Post, Alanssi, who has six children, sometimes was visibly upset, once breaking down in sobs.

In the letter faxed to the Post, Alanssi wrote: "I would like to tell all American People that I love them and I am proud to be a good friend for all American People, and I am asking them: Do you think what FBI did to me is it FARE or UNFAIR."

The incident rattled police officers and passersby outside the White House, where Pennsylvania Avenue was reopened to pedestrians recently. John and Beverly Beers, both 48, had just arrived from DeLand, Fla., and were out for a walk.

"I heard someone screaming," Beverly Beers said. "I saw flames, really quick, because they put them out. And then he was laying on the ground. . . . I just figured it was a person trying to get attention."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51575-2004Nov15.html?sub=AR

his letter is here:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/documents/fuller_11-15-04.pdf
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BURN BABY BUUURRRNNNNN Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I guess the Secret Service had to do their job and put the flames out. That's really unfortunate, I wish all the terrorists would set themselves on fire and burn to a crisp.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

msindependent wrote:
Well, I guess the Secret Service had to do their job and put the flames out. That's really unfortunate, I wish all the terrorists would set themselves on fire and burn to a crisp.


Please explain to me why you are not happy that this man is not dead?

Alanssi also alleged that the FBI had failed to adequately protect his role in a sting operation conducted in Germany in January 2003. That led to the arrest of Mohammed Ali Hassan Moayad, a Yemeni cleric who is slated to go on trial Jan. 10 in New York on charges of providing material support to al Qaeda.

Attorney General John D. Ashcroft told the Senate Judiciary Committee in March 2003 that Moayad had "boasted jihad was his field and trumpeted his involvement in providing money, recruits and supplies to al Qaeda, Hamas and other terrorist groups."

Alanssi said he played an important role in the success of that sting operation by persuading Moayad to travel from Yemen to Frankfort, where the undercover investigation was carried out. Moayad allegedly boasted -- while U.S. and German agents taped the encounter -- of sending money and recruits to al Qaeda.

In a Jan. 5, 2003, affidavit supporting Moayad's arrest warrant, Fuller said that he had been working with an informant since November 2001. He described him as a Yemeni citizen who had provided reliable information and who had "contributed, in part, to the arrests of 20 individuals and the seizure of over $1 million."


Alanssi's identity was leaked, along with details of his role, and the case was the subject of a Washington Post story in 2003 and accounts in the Yemeni press. As a result, Alanssi said, his family had been harassed and threatened in Yemen, where Moayad, 55, is a prominent leader in Islamist circles.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The man sounds like a double agent to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

msindependent wrote:
The man sounds like a double agent to me.


and you base this on...?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not happy that he didn't fry for the following reasons:

1. He obviously has ties to the terrorists.

2. He went to the FBI for two reasons.
a. to save his own butt
b. to profit from that information

3. He was paid $100,000 for that information, but wants a million?

4. He's upset that now he's a material witness, he can't leave the country.
What did he think they would do with him? Pat him on the head, say
thanks and let him go???

5. Just why was he in this country to begin with?

Naw, If he's looking for sympathy from me, he can look between sh*t and syphillis in the dictionary and find it there.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell me, If this guy was on the up and up then how is it that his name got leaked to the press? Where I come from, that's just a convenient way of getting rid of bad news. Evil or Very Mad
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