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Ohio Voter
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| AMOS wrote: | If I heard the story correctly, Craig was in the stall to the left of the cop. He used his left hand, with wedding band, to reach under the wall to his right. That would take a little more effort and hardly be accidental.
I dunno. |
It is now a stretch to guess the guy has a wedding band. And if he is left handed would be natural to do so no matter what position he was in the stall. Maybe he was sitting down like my hubby does.  It is just too much of a "sting entrapment" to be a good catch. And what if Craig is gay. So what? His wife is the only person who needs to know. |
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USAFE5
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| Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Duece,
(and others whom I have confused)
In Las Vegas the Pimps patrol the mens rooms as well as having their employees go through the ladies rooms. It is a problem in Vegas as the assumption is that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas ( IT ISN'T). So the Metro officers patrol all restrooms and corridors at the airport.
Prostitution is legal in Nye County which is where Heidi Fleiss has set up her new shop.
Sorry for the confusion.
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Deuce
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| Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Sure does look like politics....can you imagine if it woulda been Barney Frank in that stall!!!!!!!!!
Oh, and Craig has done his part! He's Pro - Gun! (like Vitter) My guess is we'll be seeing the results of FBI Filegate for years....ie, Pro-Gun Senators/Congresscritters will continue to be found out in 'Sting' operations....until the Senate and House are finally 'anti-gun'!
Thanks to Hitlery 'n Billary, DinoDems, DinoMedia, and DoNoNuttin' Academe. |
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greasepaint
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Location: Texas
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| Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:41 am Post subject: |
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what bothers me here, is that the supposed
offense is a misdemeanor.
what other non-felonies require resignation?
with that said.
was the restroom in question,
on Craig's 'natural' path thru the airport,
for walking to a connecting flight?
also, how long was the layover?, my
understanding is that most airports
have a system of VIP lounges and tunnels
that allow certain people to avoid the riffraff.
another 'with that said',
i have plead guilty to offense(s) I thought
I did not commit |
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SBD
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| Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: |
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This is from a post I made on the StrataSphere Blog on September 1, 2007. All information mentioned comes from a copy of the actual Police Report that can be read at the link below.
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/craig_report.pdf
| Quote: | Some clarification...
1. There was no sexual, or even physical contact at all, not even his foot as someone erroneously stated.
“Craig tapped his toes several times and moved his foot closer to my foot.”
2. The Officer was not there as an undercover prostitute, he was there to catch lewd acts taking place in the restroom, not attempt to be involved in one.
“On 06/11/07, at about 1200 hours, I was working a plain-clothes detail involving lewd conduct in the main men’s public restroom of the Northstar Crossing in the Lindbergh Terminal. The Airport Police Department has received civilian complaints and has made numerous arrests regarding sexual activity in the public restroom.”
3. The Police Officer does not charge anyone with a crime, they can only suggest the charge, the District Attorney or the City Attorney decide the actual charges against a Defendant.
4. A Criminal charge that includes the word Lewd, is usually followed by lascivious which was not the case here. Craig did nothing that could be considered Lewd in this case because if he did, then so did the Officer.
“Craig tapped his toes several times and moved his foot closer to my foot. I moved my foot up and down slowly.”
5. The Officer positioned himself in the row of stalls so that he would be close enough to the “action” to hear it and make an arrest for Lewd conduct or to get some guy to expose himself to him which would have been Lewd conduct, Craig did none of these which probably frustrated the Officer into arresting him.
6. The Officer did not want to make a scene, not for the benefit of Craig, but for his own so that he could go right back into the Restroom and try to catch someone who was really committing a Lewd Act.
7. Defense Attorney questioning of this Officer at trial might go something like this:
Defense Attorney: Officer , you stated in your report that the Defendant whom you described as an older white male with grey hair, was standing 3 feet away from your stall door when you observed him looking at you through the crack in the door, is that correct?
Officer: Yes
Defense Attorney: You then go on to state that you observed the Defendant look down at his hand and fidget with his fingers, is that correct?
Officer: Yes, and he would then look through the crack again, I saw his blue eyes.
Defense Attorney: You then say that 2 minutes had passed when the Defendant entered into the stall next to your once it became vacant and placed his roller bag against front of the stall door, is that correct?
Officer: Yes, to block the view from the front of the stall.
Defense Attorney: Officer, is it your claim that, in your experience, all of these observations just mentioned are signs of wanting to commit a Lewd Act?
Officer: Wel..
Defense Attorney: Yes or No please!!
Officer: Yes
Defense Attorney: Officer, you are familiar with that term fidget, are you not?
Officer: Yes
Defense Attorney: Is it not a common occurence to see an elderly person with grey hair fidget with their fingers?
Officer: Yes, but
Defense Attorney: And is it not common to see someone who has to go to the bathroom really bad to fidget while they wait for the stall to become available?
Officer: Yes, but
Defense Attorney: Officer, how much room would you say there was between where you were seated in that stall and the back of the stall door?
Officer: I don’t know, maybe less than a couple of feet.
Defense Attorney: And how much room would you say there was on either side from where you were seated.
Officer: Maybe half a foot.
Defense Attorney: Officer, is it not true that the all people who bring a roller bag into a stall would have to place it against the front of the stall?
Officer: Well they don’t have to..
Defense Attorney: Officer, have you ever seen a roller bag that was more than 6 inches wide be placed at the side of a restroom stall?
Officer: Well, no but..
Defense Attorney: Is that because it would be impossible?? and so on and so on and so on!!
SBD
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