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tvaughan
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mind the Edwards people harping on Dole. They're not very nice people and this doesn't surprise me, Dole was in combat. If Kerry was in combat he wouldn't have had to apply twice for his PH.

I just don't want national pundits smearing Dole.

(From my understanding, Dole's grenade was not the wound of his that did the most damage).

THE GOOD NEWS:

It looks like people, even on the Kerry site, are beginning to accept that Kerry's wound was self inflicted.

They don't see the difference yet, but if they want to go after Dole by saying its the same thing, not knowing the difference between self-inflicted during combat and those while it's just you and your buddies?

Let them.

It's an admission that it IS self-inflicted.

Too sweet.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jungle_rat wrote:

Just look at them writhe in agony at the truth. SBVT is performing an exorcism on the SOB's.


Yup, and the SOB's are twisting their heads in circles and regurgitating guacomole all over the place....what a disgusting sight.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtpNY wrote:
I believe the differences are:

1) Dole *admitted* the wounds were not serious (even superficial), was even embarrassed they were self-inflicted and did not embelish/lie/enhance
2) Dole was awarded the PH and did not apply/campaign/re-apply for it


That's a really good point. There's a true difference in character for you. One is self-effacing about his self-inflicted wound while IN COMBAT, the other is demanding a purple heart and calling himself a hero for one he got with no hostiles in sight.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Consider that the enabler in everything is the leftist media. If it's righteous it is stiffled. If it's harmful it is played 24/7. The hippies began protesting 3/24/65 when the SDS held a teach in at the U of Michigan. April 17 big march in DC. No fawning media, no publicity. If the long hairs were treated by the media the way conservatives are there would never have been a movement that went anywhere. If the 6 o'clock news hadn't conspired to turn America against our military, milllions would still be alive in Vietnam and Cambodia. The Senate leftists could have held their hearings in 1971 but they would not have been news without their complicit partners and they would not have turned so much of good hearted America against our brave men and women that served in Vietnam.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.what a disgusting sight


I'd been stumped to explain what could account for the irrational, fanatical lunacy and bottomless treachery of the left. The only explanation that makes any sense is demonic possesion.

I wish I was joking. Sad

Got any Holy water?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jungle_rat wrote:
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.what a disgusting sight


I'd been stumped to explain what could account for the irrational, fanatical lunacy and bottomless treachery of the left. The only explanation that makes any sense is demonic possesion.

I wish I was joking. Sad

Got any Holy water?


They hate America and all that America stands for.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:42 am    Post subject: re dole Reply with quote

suggestion, lets all hit them on msnbc with phone calls and e-mails, jam there fr....... phones and e-mails, if we all do it in the next 24 hours, they will get the message
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree...they'll call it ratings and they win.

Instead we know who the fair minded ones are...let's send them positive e-mails...and ignore the idiots.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems like the whole msm is jumping on the kerry/edwards bandwagon. I dont think Ive heard one good thing about the swiftboat vets by any anchor of a msm show.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tvaughan wrote:

They don't see the difference yet, but if they want to go after Dole by saying its the same thing, not knowing the difference between self-inflicted during combat and those while it's just you and your buddies?



To my knowledge, Dole's injury was not self inflicted, it was inflicted by a fellow soldier's grenade.

But the huge difference is, Kerry never spent a day in the hospital or missed a day of duty because of his little boo-boo and yet campaigned to get a PH. What hootzpah, but very Kerry. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 1:55 am    Post subject: Friendly fire ... Reply with quote

There is friendly fire in combat (Doles kind ...)

and then there is friendly fire from shooting at shadows with the wromg weapon at the wrong range (Kerry's kind ...)
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dole has demonstrated that he is a true, honorable American. He's also one helluva man with a lot of good character.

When you think about it, you don't have to necessarily agree with Dole's politics, but you do have to respect the man.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see this as them admitting Kerry didn't deserve his Phs and looking for cover on the subject. This is the tinest of fig leaves.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

justamom wrote:
WHY do they not find it odd that he won't release the truth and put an end to this nonsense? It makes no sense to me.


They don't seem to be looking in that direction because they are too busy trying to make this go away. Maybe after JK goes "poof," Twisted Evil they fear that they will too.....
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The MSM (with a couple exceptions) are not pushing Kerry to sign the SF 180 because they know that the moment he does, Bush wins the election. They would rather eat their young than see that happen.
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