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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/9/3/110242.shtml

Jazzoi · Seaman Recruit Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 23

So Chuck. Do you really think that the NYSlimes would report on this, unless they spun it in Kerry's direction?

Newsmax provides a reliable source of information that the MSM refuses to report on.

Fact check Newsmax against the NYSlimes and Newsmax wins EVERY time, yet the Slimes is considered 'the paper of record'.

Does Newsmax report with a conservative slant? Yes, they have never claimed otherwise. Tell a liberal that the Slimes is liberally biased, and they have conniption fits.

The overriding piece of information in all of this is that, FINALLY, even liberal journalists are starting to question Kerry's veracity.

Chuck Z Ombie AC2000 · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:47 pm Post subject:

You notice how only the word "purposeful" is quoted and the rest was added in with Newsmax's own spin? Im not trying to start trouble but if im missing where brinkley is quoted as saying "if an ongoing Navy investigation into Kerry's military decorations turns up evidence of "purposeful" deception, it could spell doom for the top Democrat's White House bid." please point it out to me.

I saw him wonder about the situation but i didnt notice him opine on how this would affect Kerry's POTUS bid.

I read over the whole article and this is the closest thing to what you're claiming.

Sonar5 · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 6:53 pm Post subject:

joe_madeup · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 20 Aug 2004 Posts: 92

Given the apparent collusion between Brinkley and the Kerry campaign... Brinkley could be just setting himself up to make a later pronouncement, "See, they found nothing (or nothing conclusive)."

Chuck Z Ombie AC2000 · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:07 pm Post subject:

We know Kerry is never going to answer the allegations, his ego is too big for that, hes used his phoney uber vietnam hero record for 20 years to win elections, hes just running his playbook. Brinkley might think Kerry has some explaining to do but the way newsmax blows up the story is like he thinks the Kerry campaign is hanging on a fingernail over the outcome of this navy investigation and all he said was "it could" and i dont even know in what context hes saying "it could"

My only point in this whole thread is do not trust Newsmax for news. look for more credible sources first. They are out there and i dont mean the MSM
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deserturtle · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:08 pm Post subject: I leave for 60 min

I leave the "room" for 60 min and come back to this revelation and the other about Stubenville....psyche!!!! Razz

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RemodelingGuy · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:20 pm Post subject:

Dabba55 · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 7:49 pm Post subject:

Brinkley's statement alone is bad for Kerry. He wouldn't make it unless he's worried about the records coming out. But I suspect he's consulted retired military who support Kerry (i.e. Wes Clark, Hackworth) and they've told him, there are irregularities here and it's a problem, i.e. three citations for the same medal, all with different language, a signature some 15 years after the fact by a Navy Sect. who denies signing it, a V clip on a Silver Star...

Brinkley got burned by Kerry... he swallowed a lot of hagiography without challenge or checking (Cambodia)...and he has to know that his reputation is seriously damaged already. I think he's hedging his bets in case the truth is proved by the records. On the other hand, if the truth stays hidden, his version is vindicated. I bet that privately, he'd like to choke Kerry. Part of the anger he has for the Swifties has to be, underneath, directed at himself. He screwed up big time.

DEL · Seaman Recruit Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 49

If errors appear on your dd214 and you sign it you are liable.

Sonar5 · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:01 pm Post subject:

air_vet · PO2 Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 374

>>Sen. John Kerry's campaign biographer Douglas Brinkley said Sunday that if an ongoing Navy investigation into Kerry's military decorations turns up evidence of "purposeful" deception, it could spell doom for the top Democrat's White House bid.<<

Let's read it very CAREFULLY....

Notice he carefully said "if" and "purposeful" - in other words, he's talking double speak. He has a VERY good idea of what is in candidate Kerry's records. He doesn't expect to see "if" and "purposeful" proven.

I just think he's setting up a trap for others to fall into.

larrygj · Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 8:15 pm Post subject:

air_vet has this nailed. This is almost certainly a setup so later Kerry Camp can say: "See, another hysterical charge disproved."

Polaris · Rear Admiral Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 626

air_vet and larrygj,

I am not saying you are wrong....what you are suggesting is certainly possible. That said, I can't quite see it. Kerry is being hurt badly right now in the polls, and further statements that damage him are things Kerry simply can not afford. Let's fact it, qualifiers aside, Brinkley's statement was very damaging to th4 Kerry campaign.

With a double digit lead (if you believe Time and Newsweek), Kerry is on the verge of becoming non-viable. If Kerry loses as little as 5 points more, he does become non-viable as a presidential candidate. Given that, the best thing Brinkley could have said from Kerry's PoV is nothing at all.

So, while I won't say that you are wrong, I am more inclined to believe given the current political calculus that Brinkley is engaged in surefire CYA rather than protecting Kerry.
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