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Cheney - A Vote for Kerry puts USA at Risk
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is "Baby" John (Edwards) so upset? His solution is sue 'em, not kill 'em.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have visions of Kerry fleeing in his little Swift Boat (or into the "safe White House" as terrorists take over the elementary school down the street from my house.

Kerry will return only after the children, the tiny hostages are murdered.

Then Kerry will announce how those children were bad and doing something wrong and we should make peace with the terrorists.

History repeats itself, if you refuse to learn from it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Cheney was dead on with his assessment as one only has to look at Kerry's own comments to conclude he does not have the fire in the belly to fight terrorism. Bush has that deep and intense commitment to fight this war - he understands the seriousness of the threat. In Kerry's acceptance speech, he said he will "react" to any terrorist attack - I'm sure that has the terrorists shaking in their booties and shows no understanding of the nature of the terrorist threat, and his "wrong, wrong, wrong" ranting yesterday about the war clearly shows he will not support the war and the fight against the terrorists. I also thought his disgusting ranting against the war yesterday was pathetic and infuriating, especially coming at a time he was "celebrating" the 1,000 casualty in Iraq, but it seems he has a history of exploiting veterans for his own political gain and it is no surprise that he would continue doing that. What a disgusting and shameful POS.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Cheney - A Vote for Kerry puts USA at Risk Reply with quote

hleone wrote:
Brash statement by Veep - good idea?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131692,00.html


Just as the MSM (a.k.a. Fogosphere) falsely reported that Bush said we can't win the war or terrorism and omitted the subsequent paragraphs uttered by Bush that left no doubt about Bush's intentions to do so, I want to see an actual transcript of what Cheney said.

In its entirety.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again..the Foxnews story is an AP feed. Enough said.

Here's the scoop:

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Cheney, selective editing, and selective outrage...
Posted by Jon Henke


Dick Cheney...


Vice President Dick Cheney on Tuesday warned Americans about voting for Democratic Sen. John Kerry, saying that if the nation makes the wrong choice on Election Day it faces the threat of another terrorist attack.

The Kerry-Edwards campaign immediately rejected those comments as "scare tactics" that crossed the line.

"It's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on Nov. 2, we make the right choice, because if we make the wrong choice then the danger is that we'll get hit again and we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States," Cheney told about 350 supporters at a town-hall meeting in this Iowa city.

John Edwards responded immediately, saying...

“Dick Cheney's scare tactics crossed the line today, showing once again that he and George Bush will do anything and say anything to save their jobs. Protecting America from vicious terrorists is not a Democratic or Republican issue, it's an American issue and Dick Cheney and George Bush should know that. John Kerry and I will keep America safe, and we will not divide the American people to do it.”
John Edwards responded less quickly to this inflammatory statement from August 30th....

...their failed leadership means that they cannot deal with the new threats we face. [...] We will ensure that we have the best ideas to make America stronger at home and... This is what they won’t do.
The above accusation that the Bush administration cannot deal with terrorism, and will not ensure that they have the best ideas to make America stronger was brought to you by John "will not divide" Edwards. And this statement....

In his most pointed attempt yet to distinguish his stand on the war from President Bush’s, Sen. John Kerry said Wednesday that "extremism has gained momentum" and the world is more dangerous because of the Bush administration’s bungling in Iraq.
..is brought to you by John "no scare tactics" Kerry.

So, you'll understand if I don't see any great problem with Dick Cheney saying that a Kerry administration's policies will increase the danger of terrorism.

At least, that would be my position if that's what Dick Cheney actually said. It's not, and the press should be absolutely ashamed. They have raised Dowdified quotes to a new level, and the left--among others--has swallowed it whole.

In reality--via Patterico--Cheney said....

We're now at that point where we're making that kind of decision for the next 30 or 40 years, and it's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on November 2nd, we make the right choice. Because if we make the wrong choice, then the danger is that we'll get hit again, that we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States, and that we'll fall back into the pre-9/11 mind set if you will, that in fact these terrorist attacks are just criminal acts, and that we're not really at war. I think that would be a terrible mistake for us
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And the more complete text, for context....



We made decisions at the end of World War II, at the beginning of the Cold War, when we set up the Department of Defense, and the CIA, and we created the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and undertook a bunch of major policy steps that then were in place for the next 40 years, that were key to our ultimate success in the Cold War, that were supported by Democrat and Republican alike -- Harry Truman and Dwight Eisenhower and Jack Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon and Gerry Ford and a whole bunch of Presidents, from both parties, supported those policies over a long period of time. We're now at that point where we're making that kind of decision for the next 30 or 40 years, and it's absolutely essential that eight weeks from today, on November 2nd, we make the right choice. Because if we make the wrong choice, then the danger is that we'll get hit again, that we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States, and that we'll fall back into the pre-9/11 mind set if you will, that in fact these terrorist attacks are just criminal acts, and that we're not really at war. I think that would be a terrible mistake for us.

We have to understand it is a war. It's different than anything we've ever fought before. But they mean to do everything they can to destroy our way of life. They don't agree with our view of the world. They've got an extremist view in terms of their religion. They have no concept or tolerance for religious freedom. They don't believe women ought to have any rights. They've got a fundamentally different view of the world, and they will slaughter -- as they demonstrated on 9/11 -- anybody who stands in their way. So we've got to get it right. We've got to succeed here. We've got to prevail. And that's what is at stake in this election.


Cheney was pretty clearly not saying that a Kerry administration would be the cause of another attack. He was saying that, under a Kerry administration, we would react incorrectly to another attack. To make it more clear, let's remove the prefacing statements, and cut to the actual danger he cited....

Because if we make the wrong choice, then the danger is that....we'll fall back into the pre-9/11 mind set if you will, that in fact these terrorist attacks are just criminal acts, and that we're not really at war. I think that would be a terrible mistake for us.
Reasonable people might disagree about whether Cheney is correct, but only the tendentious left (and the media? apparently so) can read this as a threat of another attack.
And only the loony, intellectually dishonest left can both claim Cheney is willing to "destroy America", and ***** about having their commitment to America questioned. Only the partisan-to-the-point-of-dishonest left can tell Cheney to "stand by your damn words" while actually leaving out Cheney's "damn words".




http://qando.net/archives/004038.htm


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