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NavyBrat · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:13 pm Post subject:

Chief-

So in order to obtain those records, does one file another form??

Bureauocracy was never a strong suite for me Wink

I do know that trying to obtain my Grandfather's records (KIA in WWII)
I had to go through a special WWII genealogist who was able to find other Army records for me since most of all WWI and WWII records stored at the National personel Records office were destroyed in that fire..
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m_drummond · Lt.Jg. Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 129 Location: Dallas TX

"Ever time i now see a LIE in a AP story I send a e-mail to
<info@ap.org> "

This link didn't work for me - maybe they're getting too many complaints.

I will start emailing the AP, but I've been following a different tact. I've started a file of all the biased and/or inaccurate AP articles. More importantly I complain to my local media sources if they've used the AP source pointing out why its wrong.

Go after the local media - they don't have to use the AP and if enough start dropping them, maybe they'll clean-up their act a little.
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jataylor11 · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 6:35 pm Post subject:

The Navy has to debunk Kerry's medals -- or else their entire system of rewarding medals is worthless.

Furthermore, the Nanvy must debunk Kerry's medals or the medals awarded to all others who actually merited their commendations are also meaningless.

Now days I look at the speciality license plates for Purple Heart, Bronze Star, & Silver Star recipents and wonder how deep their scratches were?

Then I have to catch myself and realize that these people served honorably and do not deserve to be slandered or defamed again because of Kerry's self-serving actions.

My apologizes to the servicemen here who actually deserved their medals and my unending respect and admiration. Thank you.

NavyChief · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 7:38 pm Post subject:

RickInDallas · Seaman Recruit Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 20

I think if we each contacted the DoD's Inspector General and expressed our outrage at Kerry's documented history of fraudulent medal collection - and asked for an investigation.. and hundreds and hundreds of us sent in similar messages -

Well, perhaps they'd get the point and make it a priority. I would think any government bureaucrat would not want to know the spotlight is being focused on his office, and that he could be subjected to criticism for failing to respond to thousands of requests for an inquiry in a timely manner, etc..

Bottom line - it takes 30 seconds to send in a complaint/request and can't hurt. So... please join me in sending in a polite and factual complaint/request for investigation:

http://www.dodig.osd.mil/HOTLINE/fwacompl.htm

Before sending in your complaint, it will likely be helpful to familiarize yourself with Judicial Watch's complaint:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/2004/navykerry.pdf

Jungle_rat · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:20 pm Post subject:

jataylor11 · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 9:07 pm Post subject:

Are the Swift Vets and others here who are Independents and Democrats enlightened any regarding the vitrolic hatred vented against conservatives?

You GottaBeKidding · Rear Admiral Joined: 08 Aug 2004 Posts: 692

I don't personally know any of these people, and the only ones I see are on the raving moonbat web site. Anything I posted there would be deleted in about 2 seconds.

Navy_Navy_Navy · Admin Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777

95.143 · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: Stars & Stripes

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=24248

NavyChief · Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Stars & Stripes

dusty · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 3:35 am Post subject:

NavyChief said:
"The files that are in St Louis are his health and personnel files. The reports are in the Naval Archives, Operational Branch at the Washington Naval Yard, DC. For some reason, someone put a hold on them. Just FYI.."

Ok NavyChief, you got me teased all to hell. Now who in the world could have put a hold on em do ya'll reckon?

Dusty[/quote]

NavyChief · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:34 pm Post subject:

dusty · Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:42 pm Post subject:

gerson · Seaman Recruit Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 34

NavyChief,

I've seen elsewhere (on what threads, can you tell me?) that you are doing a detailed study of Kerry's activity during those three months. Is there a list someplace of what After-Action reports are missing? Or what else may be missing? Is there a strict division between papers that would go in the personnel file and those that would be kept with the Navy, or would there be duplicates? Also, elsewhere you mentioned the radio reports (I think that is what they were called). What exactly are these? I am trying to get a clear picture of the different types of documents you are working with. It's hard for me because I have no service background, at least not in this life! However, my husband and I spend just about all our time on close reading of various texts, so I can appreciate what you are doing, and even understand the details with some help. Sometimes the acronyms are confusing. It would be nice to know exactly what they stand for and what significance they have.

I gather from your post that besides the personnel and medical records that can only be released by Kerry signing the 180, the Navy is actually HOLDING BACK some After-Action reports? Perhaps other things as well? My husband was asking me what records are available and what is missing and I couldn't give him a clear answer. Also I was trying to explain what you were doing with the radio reports and my explanation of that was pretty murky too. Anyway, I very much enjoy reading your posts in spite of not understanding everything. It is not at all impossible for civilians to understand what an amazing jerk JK was in Vietnam provided all the military terms are explained. Once again, please point me back to the threads where your long reports are.

Thanks! -- Gerson Smile

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