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[DC_Diva]

Unfortunately I missed it!! ARGH!!

We had an emergency that came up, but I did get several friends, who are US Capitol Police Officers (off duty on Sunday) to go 'in my place'. They estimated the crowd at peak at 2800-3000; and with some folks leaving early, some coming late, the total attendance at around 3500.

Two of the cops were not 'pro' Swiftees *until* Sunday...now they are! They said that previously they had not followed the 'story' much, and in general felt turned off by it if anything. After listening to the speeches and having such a (and I quote) "A clear, concise story laid out by the vets" they want to (and I quote again) "roast that traitors hide"...YAY!!

Just like those old shampoo commercials, those 2 will tell 4 more who in turn will tell 16 more, who will tell...etc.etc.

Sheila

My new prayer~
God bless all who've answered our nations call to service
From our oldest veteran to those standing watch today
May we honor their sacrifices and show our deep appreciation
By denying their traitor on Election Day

[ASW Tech]

[Navy_Navy_Navy]

How cool to hear from people who were there!

Please call or email c-span to ask them to make the rally available in their online video archives:

Viewer Services: (765) 464-3080 (for programming questions)
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[SooZQ]

DCdiva wrote:

[mdcrandall]

I Apolgize to everyone who may have replied to my earlier post about contacting C-SPAN. The phone number I had posted was WRONG. ANYWAY, probably as a result of the wrong phone number fiasco, which I am still steamed over my post got moved down the Geedunk and Scuttlebut. Please feel free to contact C-SPAN to request they post the rally on the web.

[integritycounts]

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http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&oi=news&start=0&num=1&q=http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/elections/bal-te.hope13sep13,1,3225220.story%3Fcoll%3Dbal-election-headlines
Baltimore Sun (subscription), United States - 16 hours ago
WASHINGTON - Chanting "Kerry lied," hundreds of Vietnam veterans yesterday rallied against fellow veteran and Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry. ...

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http://washingtontimes.com/metro/20040912-113727-2415r.htm

Vietnam veterans protest Kerry


By Arlo Wagner and Judith Person
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


Thousands of Vietnam veterans and their families and friends applauded, yelled support and waved signs and flags for more than two hours yesterday at an anti-John Kerry rally outside the U.S. Capitol.
"John Kerry is not fit to tie the shoes of the heroes we have here at this rally," said John O'Neill of Houston, a member of the Swift Boat crews who have disclaimed the Democratic presidential candidate's statements about his military service.
"Leave John Kerry to command the largest vessel he's ever competently handled — his surfboard," said another speaker, B.G. Burkett, 60, another veteran and author of "Stolen Valor," which is about the legacy of the Vietnam generation.
The comments drew hearty approval from a crowd that organizers estimated at between 8,000 and 10,000.
Park and Capitol officials no longer provide crowd estimates, but some veteran observers estimated that the crowd numbered in the low thousands.
About a half-dozen pro-Kerry boosters stood with a banner, Veterans For Kerry, near the stage. John Grant, 57, of Philadelphia, entered the crowd, got in an argument and was escorted out by police.
"It's not right," Mr. Grant said, complaining that the rally was really a campaign to re-elect President Bush and that a permit for a similar rally in opposition to Mr. Bush would have been denied.
Several speakers and audience members said the rally was not political. There were no statements urging the re-election of Mr. Bush. But Mr. Burkett criticized CBS News anchor Dan Rather, who has become embroiled in a controversy over the network's reporting on "military records" of Mr. Bush's that appear to be forged.
Other speakers included Jim Warner of Rohrersville, Md., who said he was a prisoner of war when Mr. Kerry returned to the United States and criticized the conduct of American troops in Vietnam.
The Viet Cong interrogated Mr. Warner and used Mr. Kerry's quotes in an effort to persuade Mr. Warner to sign a statement about U.S. military cruelties.
The audience cheered and obviously agreed with all speakers.
"I have some real problems with Kerry," said retired Sgt. Maj. Ben Swartz, 66. "We feel that he degraded the servicemen who were serving their country."
Mr. Swartz and brother-in-law, retired Sgt. Bryant Bowman, and their wives came from Charleston, W.Va.
Mr. Bowman put his hand on his wife's shoulder. "She had to stay home and worry about me. She had our first baby while I was in Vietnam," he said, pausing as tears welled in his eyes. "And John Kerry is stirring it up all over again."
Debbie Ewert, 53, wore a T-shirt that read: "Kerry lied while good men died."
Mrs. Ewert's son is in the Marines. "I don't want him coming back to the same things the Vietnam vets came back to," she said.
Veterans, many holding flags and military banners aloft, stood or sat in lawn chairs listening. A smattering of younger protesters, many wearing anti-Kerry T-shirts, were sprinkled among the mostly middle-aged crowd.
Christy Williams, 28, and Olivia Tauthus, 27, said they were members of the conservative group Protest Warriors. "We are here to support the troops," Miss Williams said.
"This has nothing to do with political affiliation," said David Skocik, 56, who drove from Dover, Del., for the rally. His son was partly disabled serving in the military during the Persian Gulf war era, and his son-in-law recently returned from active duty in Afghanistan.
"I feel very strongly that we have to look out for our vets and to be sure that their best interests will be in mind from the White House," he said. "I don't think Kerry can do that."

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Hundreds Of Vietnam Vets Protest Kerry
Veterans Accuse Candidate Of Lying 3 Decades Ago

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/politics/3724914/detail.html
UPDATED: 6:55 am EDT September 13, 2004

WASHINGTON -- Chanting "Kerry lied," hundreds of Vietnam veterans on Sunday rallied against fellow veteran and Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry.

Comrades died because of people like Kerry and Jane Fonda, asserted Larry Bailey, a U.S. Navy veteran and president of Vietnam Vets for the Truth.

With the U.S. Capitol as a backdrop, Bailey accused Kerry of lying three decades ago when he returned from Vietnam and gave testimony before the U.S. Senate in 1971 alleging widespread atrocities by American troops.

"We can tell him (Kerry) and spit in his eye while we're doing it, 'we served honorably and compassionately,"' Bailey said to cheers from the crowd of approximately 1,000.

Bailey's speech was interrupted when a shouting match broke out between a lone Kerry supporter in a wheelchair, Vietnam veteran Bobby Mueller, and a number of the anti-Kerry vets.

Before the rally, a group of supporters held a news conference nearby to defend Kerry and call for an end to the TV ads attacking the military record of the Massachusetts senator.

"What we ought to be talking about is what's happening today and that includes the best person to lead us out of the mess we've got ourselves in Iraq," Retired Gen. Merrill "Tony" McPeak, a former chief of staff of the Air Force, told reporters.

McPeak, who is advising the Kerry campaign and is a Vietnam veteran, said those who have questioned the five medals Kerry was awarded for Vietnam either weren't directly serving with him or their accounts have been directly contradicted by other vets who were side-by-side with Kerry.

[lolajl]

Coming in late . . . there was some mention of the rally yesterday on NBC local news (here in DC Metro area). Nothing at all in the nationwide news that I could detect.

[beansoup]

THAT'S IT !!!!! We have to start pushing Radio over TV!!! Radio is at least divisive...TV is bias...

TV is giving the public ONE side of the campaigns..The choice is not ours..

Radio is giving the public TWO sides of the campaigns...The choice is ours
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"George W.Bush = "Walk the Talk"

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[mdcrandall]

Videos of the rally are for sale at C-SPAN:

http://www.c-spanstore.org/cgi-bin/cspanstore/183440-1.html

Mdcrandall
Proud to be
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[Me#1You#10]

With the successful completion of the Veteran's Rally, we will be moving this thread to our R&R forum.

Our heartiest congratulations to CAPT Larry W. Bailey, USN (Ret.) of Kerrylied.com and to everyone involved in bringing this log-overdue event to fruition.

BZ! to CAPT Bailey and to ALL the participants for a day that will be long and fondly remembered.

[beansoup]

[RivanG]

The Vietnam Veterans for Truth Rally is up at CSpan...

Veterans for Truth Rally
In Washington, D.C., Vietnam Veterans hold a Veterans for Truth Rally.
9/12/2004: WASHINGTON, DC: 2 hr. 50 min.

http://www.c-span.org/Search/basic.asp?ResultStart=1&ResultCount=10&BasicQueryText=vietnam+rally

[RaceBannon]

[RaceBannon]

Here are some pics of John Oneill:

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Kerry Fled, While good men bled!