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[msindependent]

The press act like this America hating is all new. I can testify to the fact that they hated us even when Clinton was in. I hate to say it, but I would rather be stuck in a room with a frenchman than a belgian. They are a very nasty bunch.

[sround]

My Dad was one of the thousands of Yanks to come
over and fight the Hun during the Buldge.
Do you recall that from your history lessons, mon freir?
So, if you ever need help again, remember to hold
your breath. Au revoir.
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[jataylor11]

So basically this guy wants the terrorists to be blowing up people and buildings in America and for us to fight them in United States neighborhoods, schools, office buildings, shopping centers instead of fighting them in the Islamic countries that created these monsters ---


The world hates us because we are successful. In the words of Mother Teresa -- If you are successful you will have some faithless friends and genuine enemies. Succeed anyway.

That is what we need to do -- continue to succeed anyway regardless of what this twit thinks.

I might have to go to the next tennis tournament this guy appears at and protest each time he plays.

[Nomorelies]

[Guest]

I emailed that Belgian ******* and what a response. He accused me of hating all Europeans and that I must NOT know anything about Europe. Between us, how could I not? All my relatives are from Europe, I am a first generation American on my Daddy's side and second generation on my Mom's side, so I grew up with Europe at my kitchen table...HELLO! Anyhow, that guy is demented AND I gave him a piece of my mind in response to that ignorant email sent me. The most important thing I told him is that just because he can wack a tennis ball around, it does not give him the right to spew his self absorbed opinions like filth all around. Basically, I told him to "JUST SHUT UP"! We should deport him. Another traitor. My Dad came here in 1948, became an American citizen, enlisted in the Army, and is a Vet of the Korean War. I am proud of my Daddy! Europeans of old appreciate this country and what it stands for and support it, the rest are just plain JEALOUS! They will not decide our election. EVER!

[Guest]

one waffle for the waffler

[I B Squidly]

I received this in response to my note above:



it is ok to fight terrorism abroad. The sources of terrorism are
abroad, that's where you have to do your work.

And you are right, Belgium has to take care of its own safety. I agree
with you, and I agree when you say that we have not done that in the
past. We can't let the US play superman for us, because in the end, the
US only comes when its own interest is at stakes, which is normal.


Now I am disgusted at your comment on ingratitude.
Because you have helped a country in the past doesn't entitle you to
have a servant for the rest of time. Your point in saving us was not to
enslave us, was it??
We are very grateful for the past, but you can not mix past and
present. We are entitled to our own opinions. you are supposed to be
the champions of freedom, so why do you keep looking down at our right
to have an opinion? Or do you just welcome opinions that are friendly
to yours?
you are dead wrong on that.


As for your approach to combat terrorism, let me just say that
Europeans have a much better understanding of the arab world and of
terrorism that America does. Simply because of immigrants and
proximity. Just like you have a much better understanding of the
Mexican culture than we do.

Again, you are right that Europe has been very inactive about a lot of
things, and too shy to take actions. But it's partially because we
understand the complexity of the issues.

On the contrary, Bush does not have a clue about cultures. You can't
solve a problem if you don't understand it. In fact, Bush is making
things worse everyday. Every day, more people hate the US because of
Bush. You don't realize it because you don't live abroad. you get the
american news. you are the one being naive. I see it everyday. It is
not just extremists who hate you anymore, it's the average people. do
you plan on bombing everyone on earth?? do you envision a world where
every nation hates yours?? do you get it ???

Soon enough, if you "stay the course", you will have to build a
protective wall just like the one in Israel, and you won't be able to
get out of your country.

Is that your solution?

I hope not.

Nicolas

[Jerald L. Parsoneault]

Nicolas wrote:

[I B Squidly]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicolas Sauveur" <l_homme_du_millenaire@yahoo.com>
To: "larry ladyn" <lladyn@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 4:24 AM
Subject: Re: US fighting abroad


>
>
> it is ok to fight terrorism abroad. The sources of terrorism are
> abroad, that's where you have to do your work.
So why your original remark that the US should fight at home?

> And you are right, Belgium has to take care of its own safety. I agree
> with you, and I agree when you say that we have not done that in the
> past. We can't let the US play superman for us, because in the end, the
> US only comes when its own interest is at stakes, which is normal.
We excercise our SuperPower status not for you but for ourselves. It's call enlightened self interest.

> Now I am disgusted at your comment on ingratitude.
> Because you have helped a country in the past doesn't entitle you to
> have a servant for the rest of time. Your point in saving us was not to
> enslave us, was it??
> We are very grateful for the past, but you can not mix past and
> present. We are entitled to our own opinions. you are supposed to be
> the champions of freedom, so why do you keep looking down at our right
> to have an opinion? Or do you just welcome opinions that are friendly
> to yours?
> you are dead wrong on that.
No, we expect no obligation and yes, your entitled to an opinion (Yeah, Voltaire). And, it is my opinion that if you can't lend a hand at least stay out of the way.

> As for your approach to combat terrorism, let me just say that
> Europeans have a much better understanding of the arab world and of
> terrorism that America does. Simply because of immigrants and
> proximity. Just like you have a much better understanding of the
> Mexican culture than we do.
Some of us remember the Latin Kingdoms in Palestine, the Balfour Declaration, Algeria, the Suez Crises, Munich and on, and on....and we still wait to see the efficacy of Europe's superior understanding.

> Again, you are right that Europe has been very inactive about a lot of
> things, and too shy to take actions. But it's partially because we
> understand the complexity of the issues.
Europe's inaction is well explained by the venality of your politicians and journalists coveting the lucre provided by the UN's Food for Oil program. New French weapons were still coming across the Syrian border when we got to Iraq. Complexity is a byword for obfuscation.


> On the contrary, Bush does not have a clue about cultures. You can't
> solve a problem if you don't understand it. In fact, Bush is making
> things worse everyday. Every day, more people hate the US because of
> Bush. You don't realize it because you don't live abroad. you get the
> american news. you are the one being naive. I see it everyday. It is
> not just extremists who hate you anymore, it's the average people. do
> you plan on bombing everyone on earth?? do you envision a world where
> every nation hates yours?? do you get it ???
Eau contraire, mon amie. The US press is firmly in the 'cut'n'run camp of appeasers and in the thrall of the 'Arab Street'. As to culture? I doubt it was a great concern to Charles Martel at Poitier. It mattered little when the Turks were at the gates of Vienna. I do remember the great understanding and sensitivity shown the Sudeten Germans at Munich. Sure, the arabs make a fine cup of coffee and beautiful caligraphy but, THEY WANT TO KILL US! I make no apologies to Jihadist apologists.

> Soon enough, if you "stay the course", you will have to build a
> protective wall just like the one in Israel, and you won't be able to
> get out of your country.
We didn't build the last wall. If the approbation of others drove our policy Berlin would have starved, and the Soviets would have 'liberated' Paris and Brussels.
The Atlantic is not our only ocean. As we continue this war and more and more of our trade moves to the Pacific while europe navel gazes it may be you cowering behind your wall of exquisite sensitvity and complexity.

>
> Is that your solution?
>
> I hope not.

My solution is to eradicate this scourge of the modern world. You shoud hope we do not fail.
>
> Nicolas

Larry.
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> --- larry ladyn <lladyn@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> You are certainly correct. Given an option the US would much rather
>> fight wars abroad than visited on say, New York. When the Germans
>> burned Liege in the First war we detrmined to fight that one abroad
>> and now in Flanders poppies decorate our graves. Thirty years later
>> Americans again fought abroad in Belgian towns like Bastogne. Our
>> self interest was paramount but the effect was to do for Belgium what
>> she couldn't do for herself.
>> I can forgive your ingratitude. But, for your own self interest you
>> should learn that you too are slated for destruction by Jihadists.
>> Your peaceful intentions have been no protection in the past and
>> promise none for the future.
>> Your naive endorsement of Kerry if well published should rebound
>> nicely to Bush.
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>

[shooter]

Oh! I get now!!! This panty-waist frog thinks it would be OK if we fought the terrorists overHERE and NOT OVER THERE !!

Well, here's a news flash D**khead: We have to fight them over there because you friggin cowards have been in bed with them for 50 years!!

Let's talk about the "Oil for Food" program and all the money you eurpopean hypocrites stole from the Iraqi people. It didn't matter to you that people were starving as long as you got your cut. You haven't met a terrorist yet that was not worth your appeasement efforts. Your "We'll give you what you want - Go terrorize someone else" friggin attitude is exactly why we're doing this today!!

Our President has the cajones to do what you european cowards would never dream of ! Watch - We'll show you how we play cowboys and terrorists. You can bet your puckered continental butts that the terrorists are looking real hard at you too..... Just call us if you need help, but don't be surprized if the hot line is busy.....
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[DaveL]

The protests in Europe were much worse, and the hatred of the US Government much greater in the 80s when Reagan made his decision to defeat Soviet Communist domination of Eastern Europe as well as end the very real Soviet threat against all of Europe!! The Europeans were wrong then and they are even more wrong now!!

[Steve Z]

Not all Europeans were against the American intervention in Iraq. To the east of the former Iron curtain, European nations which were delivered from Soviet tyranny by the courageous stands of President Reagan and Pope John Paul II gladly supported the American coalition to remove Saddam Hussein and deliver the Iraqi people from tyranny.

Those who have suffered under tyranny are more willing to fight it. Hopefully, the dovish nations of Europe won't have to learn the hard way.
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[blue9t3]

My buddy nic wrote me back! (I have to type it)

you are a funny one.
and you make great points.
i can see you have lots of brains.
i am making short sentences.
i hope you can understand.
good luck in life,Einstein.

My gut hurts from laughing, I wish I could show you what I wrote this dirtbag. I just cant for the life of me figure what points he agrees with.
It was five sentences of nothing but four letter fighting words, the little panty-waist!
Maybe he liked the last sentence cause it rhymed,
F---YOU,AND KERRY TOO!
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[2ndamendsis]

OK, I know I've been in a fighting mood lately but what the hey.

Here's mine & his reply. Don't want to feel left out, ya know

[blue9t3]

2nd,
He hasnt wrote back on my nice letter (second one) almost every thing I said was in your letter too. I did ask him to tell me what his country has ever given. Hes gona stew on it for awhile, chances are hes a punk and will behave as such!........anyway--way to go, now wasnt that fun?
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