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[kyleparr]

I am a Virginian. Trust me, Gilmore and Allen could not get enough of the guy. He was the republican candidate for Senate. Like he is some kind of hero.

Ollie North is a felonious piece of crap.

[Scott]

[BrianC]

As expected Kyleparr, when I provided what you were asking for - FACTS about the corruption of the clinton administration- you changed the subject, pointing the finger in a complete different direction, and making a lame attempt at trying to point out the spec in someone else's eye while ignoring the plank in the eye of the clinton administration.

How very typical. Your debate skills are nonexistent.

By the way, this forum is about John Kerry and his lies. The guy is no more suited to lead the most powerful republic in the world than the man in the moon.

PS:
Did you bother looking up the name Maria Hsia?

[kyleparr]

I believe that giving that kind of power to one person is extremely dangerous. Hell, under the current executive branch position, Bush, could declare me and John Kerry enemy combatants and throw us in prison without any due process.

Are you familiar with the case of Jose Padilla? He had no gun. He was a US citizen on US soil when he was arrested. They say he had a bunch of plans for a dirty bomb and such. He may well, have, but he is still and AMERICAN CITIZEN and needs to be protected by the constitution!!! Otherwise, who else can have their rights taken away???? This scares the crap out of me!

I believe ALL American Citizens are entitled to the protections of our constitution, whether I agree with their views or activities or not.

[Scott]

Kyle,

I was referring specifically to Padilla. If he had those plans on him, then he's an enemy combatant; he's not entitled to the rights of an accused criminal - that's an entirely different case and falls under different laws.
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[BrianC]

Are you familiar with the case of Jose Padilla? He had no gun.

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Neither did the 20 who brought down the towers.

So what's your point?

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[kyleparr]

So far Scott, the Federal Court of Appeals agrees with me, not you and your totalitarian adminstration. We will see what the Supreme Court says.

[BrianC]

Kyle, What would you do with any American citizen who takes up arms against the United States?

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[BrianC]

Kyleparr posted:

[kyleparr]

BrianC, my point is that Jose Padilla is an American Citizen entitled to due process under the constitution. I do not think the Founding Fathers had the idea of people picking and choosing who enjoyed the protections. Especially paranoid sociopaths like Ashcroft.

No, I am not going to accept "dislike of sodomites". HOMOPHOBIA is a real word. It is also a real problem for people that oppose gay marriage and have been divorced three times. HYPOCRITE is a real word too.

ho·mo·pho·bi·a ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hm-fb-)
n.
Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
Behavior based on such a feeling.

As for the DNC fundraising thing, she actually never spent any time in jail, much to the chagrin of the right and the joy of the Clinton conspiracy theorists. I am sure they were up to no good. I do not dispute it. I also posted a document about Bush's own Taiwan fundraising connection. Those in glass houses!!

BrianC, this was all as a result of your "I do not recall" thing. You have never responded to the fact that it originated with the administration of Iran-Contra and that they were killing peple with their lies. Hardly a Buddhist temple in Iran or in front of a Death Squad. But, I can't recall.

[BrianC]

I do not think the Founding Fathers had the idea of people picking and choosing who enjoyed the protections.

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Ha!

The Founding Fathers fought against tyranny. Go pick up a history book and find for yourself how TRAITORS to the then-fledgling country were treated. Most were hanged. Some were simply shot.

As for your claims about the "I don't recall", YOU seem to have forgotten that you requested some evidence of corruption in the clinton administration. I provided one concrete example - the algore fundraising in the Buddhist Temple in Hacienda Heights, California.
YES - it was adjudicated - Maria Hsia did jail time over it. algore had his protector, Janet Reno take care of any investigation into his wrongdoing in it.
He claimed to not know it was a fundraiser. If that 's the case, man was far too stupid to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.

But you laughed it off. Apparently you think it's just fine for Chinese communists to be influencing our elections in this country. I find that thinking to be disgusting.

[BrianC]

Here's the rest of the story that the mainstream media has yet to report. On Feb. 6, U.S. District Court Judge Paul Friedman finally handed Hsia her sentence: a puny 90 days of home detention and three years of probation, along with a fine and assessment of $5,300.

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Yep - sure enough, she never spent a day in jail.
And I'm a "conspiracy theorist", hmm? She was CONVICTED by a federal jury in Washington, D.C., of five felony counts related to more than $100,000 in illegal contributions to Democratic candidates. The stash included $65,000 in straw donations, which Hsia had funneled through clueless, non-English-speaking monks and nuns the day after Vice President Al Gore's 1996 visit to the Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple in Southern California.

$65,000 in donations, but algore "didn't know it was a fundraiser", even though he was THERE.

The fact that you find humor in it and claim it's some "Republican conspiracy theory" is beneath contempt.

[kyleparr]

OK BrianC -

the exact quote, from George "You Talking to Me?" Bush on Larry King Live, on Feb 15, 2000 was...