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| Quote: | | Did anyone else note the contempt in Dan the FlimFlamMan's voice when he spoke of those in the "blogosphere and internet" who DARED question CBS' (the house that Murrow built) veracity? |
How would YOU feel if some geeks with computers tore apart documents you had in your possession for six weeks and vetted by "experts" torn to shreds in 10 hours?
Stick a fork in him and hang him up next to Geraldo in the Reporters Hall of Shame. He's done.
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debinNC
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lrb111
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| Sonar5 wrote: | Arrgghhhh... In best Dean VOICE....
look at the REAL Killian Signature....
EXPERT.... I debunked this jerk in 30 minutes by comparing the REAL Killian Signatures......
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Baawahhaha!!  I GOT IT!!
FAABULOUS!!!
They had Matley certify the signatures from the other same look alike forged signatures!!!!
I love this stuff!
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well, when even the DNC can see it,,,,, then kerry is toast. |
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bach04
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Not sure if this was posted in the other threads, but the NY post had this for its lead editorial.
http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/editorial/28360.htm
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September 11, 2004 -- What are CBS — and anchor Dan Rather — trying to hide?
The network ignited a firestorm Wednesday when its news show "60 Minutes" reported on memos related to President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard.
Rather went on the air last night to defend the report.
At issue: the authenticity of memos that alleged Bush got favored treatment.
* Multiple experts say that characteristics of the typing — the appearance of a "th," as in "187th," in raised superscript, aspects of the spacing and the use of a recent typeface — make it unlikely the documents were written in the early '70s, as their dates state.
Rather asserted that such typescript was available as early as 1968, but provided no details — such as the make of the typewriter that could produce it.
* The widow of Lt. Col. Jerry Killian, the memos' supposed author, found the wording "very suspect," and Killian's son said his father would never have written or kept such memos.
Rather did produce a contemporary of Killian's who said the documents described behavior typical of the times — but who, when asked, declined to say whether he believed them to be genuine.
* The personnel chief in Killian's unit called the papers "forgeries" and said Killian, whom he knew for 17 years, would never have written such memos.
Rather did interview a handwriting specialist, Marcel Matley — who asserted the signatures were real, but who never addressed the possibility that a genuine signature could have been scanned into a computer to produce a forgery.
Nor did Rather ask him about that.
Matley was, however, the sole "expert" to appear last night. Nobody else lent a name — or reputation — to substantiate the original CBS report.
This was consistent with CBS' steadfast refusal since Wednesday to disclose the names of experts it said had verified the documents' authenticity.
"The documents in the '60 Minutes' report were thoroughly examined and their authenticity vouched for by independent experts," CBS had said.
That's experts — plural.
But called in CBS's defense last night: one handwriting guy; nobody else.
Pretty thin gruel.
Sure, news organizations sometimes need to protect sources.
But it's one thing for CBS to withhold information about the documents' origin — and quite another for it to refuse to disclose the names of those who (it claims) authenticated them.
Why, after all, would folks who make their living doing such analyses want to remain anonymous?
By continuing to "shield" their experts after two days of mounting controversy, Rather and CBS left folks to wonder how they authenticated the documents.
More to the point, by airing last night's segment at all, CBS and Rather were admitting something extraordinary had happened — that serious challenges to their original reporting had been mounted.
But no challenger was brought on the show.
Rather defined the terms of the discussion, asked the questions, picked the individuals who responded, presumably screened their answers — and basically declared himself innocent.
That is, he stuck in his thumb, pulled out a plum — and said: "What a fine anchor am I."
That probably won't cut it. In the age of the Internet, the truth will out.
Dan Rather can count on that. |
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markasass
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| Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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- Dan Rather is CBS's version of The New York Times' Jayson Blair.
- This demonstrates the power of the "new" media, i.e., cable TV, talk radio, and the Internet blogosphere and webzines over the "old" leftstream media of CBS, the NYT, and NPR et al.
- The Kerry Kool-Aid Kamp (KKK) has hired the Clinton Assassination Team (CAT), so be prepared for anything and everything.
- Dan Rather is taking over where that aid-and-comforter Uncle Walter left off.
- CBS really stepped in it, but we must NOT become overconfident NOR "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory".
We must remain en guarde and fiercely-aggressive 24/7 until 03 November 2004.
May God bless the victims, and their loved ones, of 09-11-01, and may God ALWAYS bless this "One Nation Under God".
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