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KERRY comments on today's (9/15) IMUS show
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dukeblue
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:10 pm    Post subject: No mention of 180 Reply with quote

No mention of 180

IMUS: A Freedom of Information Act request by "The Washington Post" regarding your military records produced six pages of information, while a spokesman for the Navy Personnel Command said there were at least 100 pages of information available, but he was not authorized to release them. Why can't we see this stuff?

KERRY: We've posted my military records that they sent to me, or were posted on my Web site. You can go to my Web site, and all my -- you know, the documents are there.

IMUS: So is -- everything's available?

KERRY: To the best of my knowledge. I think some of the medical stuff may still be out there. We're trying to get it.

IMUS: "The Washington Post" doesn't think that it's all available, and they could go to your Web site. Maybe they did.

KERRY: Well, we released everything that they initially sent me.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The part I liked is where, after Kerry said the soldiers were sent to Iraq without adequate armor and protection, Imus asked him, "Then why did you vote against the $87 billion?" And all Kerry could do was sputter that the $87 billion vote was after the troops had already been sent in. Pathetic. As if the $87 billion was coming too late, anyway, and therefore really of no consequence.

Imus blew it in a least two instances. First, Imus obviously doesn't know about the Form 180 issue, and he let Kerry blow smoke on him over that, feigning that his web site has everything or should. What a liar. And second, Kerry's "plan" for Iraq to "get our allies back" -- nobody presses him on just who these "allies" are. France, as we all know, is now an enemy, not an ally, and Chirac already has said it won't change France's policies on Iraq or the U.S. even if Kerry wins. And Germany is no different. More to the point, those two feckless countries don't even have much of a military left to help us, even if they wanted to. Their budgets have all been sucked up in welfare programs that they're now desparately trying to cut back (good news on that: German Chancellor Schroeder's Socialist Party is taking a beating in local state elections; watch for him to be replaced soon by the conservative and pro-US Christian Democrats). And Kerry keeps repeating the mantra about how we went in "alone" -- ignoring the fact that a majority of NATO countries are with us, along with numerous others.

Still, for what I am sure Kerry hoped would be a softball interview from another non-journalist entertainer, Imus got some good jabs in. Like when he asked whether Kerry was going to fight back harder at Bush and Cheney or just hit them with spitballs. Though it was a phone interview and you couldn't see Kerry, I can just imagine the botox getting a little jiggled over that one.

Larry
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd heard earlier today that after Kerry hung up the phone, that Imus said on the air, (words to this effect): "Well, I asked him 2 or 3 times about Iraq, but each time he answered, but I could never figure out what he was saying."

So don't be TOO hard on the doddering old fool named Imus.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't heard Imus say he read UFC either. I think his eyes might be opened if he reads it. You Marines out there need to contact him and encourage your fellow Marine to read the book!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WebTalk wrote:
Imus mentioned his visit to Walter Reed with McCain and asked Kerry if he has visited there.
Kerry answered that he had, many times.

I'd like to see if that can be documented.


Surely there would have been TV cameras...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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WebTalk wrote:
Imus mentioned his visit to Walter Reed with McCain and asked Kerry if he has visited there.
Kerry answered that he had, many times.

I'd like to see if that can be documented.


Surely there would have been TV cameras...


I think Cuda and WebTalk are onto something. I went to www.johnkerry.com and used their search engine, first looking for "Walter Reed" and "Walter Reed visit" and "Walter Reed John Kerry" -- nothing. Same keywords for Google. Nothing. Probably another Big Lie, because Live Shot Kerry would indeed have made any such visit a media event.

This is worth posting as a new topic, see if anybody knows anything about this. Gonna do that right now.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerry was probably talking about in the last 19 years as a Senator any time he needed his fingernails clipped he had it done at Walter Reed.

Okay, maybe not his fingernails clipped, but how about shots before traveling overseas? annual physicals? etc, etc

So the response was correct that he has been to Walter Reed, but misleading in the he wasn't there to visit injured soldiers... at least not many times as he suggests.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jataylor11 wrote:

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So the response was correct that he has been to Walter Reed, but misleading in the he wasn't there to visit injured soldiers... at least not many times as he suggests.

No, Kerry made this reference on the Imus show to his having visited soldiers wounded in Iraq:

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I mean, I understand you just went over to Walter Reed; I've been over there, and I know it had an impact on you. I'll tell you, when I met those kids over there and you see some of them with their arms grafted to their legs and they're, you know, going through six months and a year of dealing with a wound that came about because they don't have the armored Humvees over there, because some of these kids are over there without the state-of-the-art armor. I mean, this president sent people to war without the state-of-the-art equipment, without the kinds of allied support, without the kinds of judgments that should have been made beforehand.


Steams ya, doesn't it? The entire transcript of the interview can be found at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6009011/

Warning: buy the economy-size Pepto Bismo before reading.

Larry

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMUS: So is -- everything's available?

KERRY: To the best of my knowledge. I think some of the medical stuff may still be out there. We're trying to get it.

IMUS: "The Washington Post" doesn't think that it's all available, and they could go to your Web site. Maybe they did.

KERRY: Well, we released everything that they initially sent me.

Oh the Spin!! He pretty much just admitted that not ALL his Records have been released. He very well would have recieved all the records he requested, doesn't mean he requested them all does it? His own answer alludes to that very thing.
Any Veteran can get ALL their records, Medical, Dental, 201 File etc.. All they have to do is request it. If you do not request all of them, you get only what you asked for and that is what I think he has done.
The other answers on Iraq are dumbfounding to say the least. "I won't know until I get there in Jan." WTF Over?!?! He is a U.S. Senator, he had a seat on the Intel Committee, he has run on bashing current policy, yet he can not say what he would do differently?!?
Heck, I could tell you in some detail how I would have done things differently (especially given the benefit of months of being able to look back on what went wrong and what went right.)
As far as his visiting the wounded, if he did it is a better kept "secret" than his "Lucky Hat" and his Christmas in Cambodia. The man has a propensity for pointing out his "actions" and having photo ops.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traitor Kerry should be trial for treason, if convicted should be hang or deport to France. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GST wrote:
You have to take these interviews with a grain of salt. I'll bet Kerry agreed to do this interview with the stipulation that Imus not ask certain questions. "Interviews" like this amount to campaign ads with the payment to the host being a larger audience. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.


I think Clinton opened Imus's door for Kerry.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad I missed the darned thing..amazing. I knew Imus was weak, but jeez..How in the name of all that is Holy can anyone vote for this idiot Kerry. I do not understand it at all. Bush has all his records out there, and hey some are even made up..he gave them all out..and this fool, get off by saying the famous lawyer phrase.." to the best of my knowledge.."

Real person talk.."you are never ever getting my records, although I told my staff to release them.."

Shame on Imus..did Charles, or Bernie comment at all? Just wondering..and if MSNBC has Imus, Matthews plugging for Kerry all the time..except for Joe S occasionally, where is the balance? I thought there were some rules of equal time here..apparantly not..

I am not wasting an e-mail on Imus..or BOR for that matter..off to watch Laura give it to BOR, that is if BOR lets her talk..

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misty wrote:
GST wrote:
You have to take these interviews with a grain of salt. I'll bet Kerry agreed to do this interview with the stipulation that Imus not ask certain questions. "Interviews" like this amount to campaign ads with the payment to the host being a larger audience. You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.


I think Clinton opened Imus's door for Kerry.


After the way Imus bad mouthed Clinton at a White house dinner, in front of all of the guests and press, I don't think that is at all likely.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earlier in the thread there was the statement about fifty calibers and the Geneva Conventions.

It is not true that you cannot engage human targets with a fifty caliber machine gun in accordance with the conventions. It is a rumor. An old and enduring rumor.

After all, you can shoot rockets, drop bombs and throw grenades at human targets, why would you not be able to shoot at them with a fifty?

I was a crew member on AC-130 gunships, and there was no restriction on using a 40mm bofors cannon on humans, or for that matter, a 105mm howitzer.

Apache helicopters routinely engage troops with a 30mm cannon, much larger and more devastating than a fifty cal.

We had fifty cals on our MH-53s that the gunner would quickly turn on troops if need be.

Also, military snipers used the same rounds in Somalia to vaporize gun toting enemy at incredibly long distances.

Fifty cal fires are not illegal against troops.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KERRY: Well, we released everything that they initially sent me.

..............

My God, what a contortionist liar.

THEY WON'T SEND YOU WHAT YOU DON'T REQUEST, YOU PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!!![/b]
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