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Nixon vs Kerry on MSNBC NOW
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am more determined than ever to help defeat Kerry. I was one of those who enlisted for Vietnam Service at 17yrs. old (09 Jul 71) AFTER Kerry asked how the nation could ask someone to be the last one to die for the cause. I wonder whether Kerry thinks I am a patriot or an idiot.

I would like to ask him that question on National TV. I was against him then and am against him now. This has been bothering me for 33 years and I'll be damed if I will now let him go without challenge.

I wonder how our country will get personnel to enlist for this war on terrorism with him again spouting his BS. From what I have learned, he didn't do much but write his own reports and medals. I call him a total FRAUD. I didn't even know how to ask for my medals they were just awarded. CIB, Bronze Star, etc. I will sign a Form 180 for anybody.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rmeals wrote:
- Don't we know from the FBI files he actually did stay at a home in Georgetown? (I am not totally sure about this - but Kerry clearly denies this)
- When Kerry says “we were forced to give our medals back” isn’t that inclusive, i.e. he was one of those who gave medals, not ribbons, back? - I didn’t look close but was he wearing his ribbons when he said that and therefore must have thrown medals?
- They didn't mention that Kerry was still in the Reserve during his VVAW period
- They didn't mention that the Detroit winter soldier thing was informal and full of whoppers that were challenged at the time
- They didn't mention Bob Dornan's close up (and undercover) presence at the anti-war events and that he still has artifacts
- They didn't mention Kerry's little book he put out and now keeps hidden
- They didn't mention Jane Fonda's funding of the VVAW
- They didn't mention Kerry's absurdly low estimates of how many Vietnamese would be adversely affected if we unilaterally left Vietnam
- They didn’t mention that John O’Neil took over the exact boat Kerry had commanded
- They didn’t mention the meeting in Kansas City and the assassination debate Kerry participated in
- They didn’t clarify just how prevalent or not prevalent war crimes actually were in Vietnam
- They didn’t at all cover Kerry’s multiple trips to meet with the enemy in Paris
- They did not mention that Kerry's words were being played to POWs
- They did not mention that Kerry ended up in the Reserves after his request for a fifth deferment was denied


Hello,

Didn't South Vietnam ask America to help them?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an aside - I don't think Kerry was on the debate team at Yale but was he was head of the Liberal Union or some such thing. (Others can set me straight on this.) John O'Neill was on the debate team at the Naval Academy (as was I a number of years after him!) so when he faced Kerry in those early years he was certainly experienced in taking on his adversary.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"When Kerry says “we were forced to give our medals back” isn’t that inclusive, i.e. he was one of those who gave medals, not ribbons, back? - I didn’t look close but was he wearing his ribbons when he said that and therefore must have thrown medals? "

You know, this is a great point. Those images clearly showed him wearing his ribbons.

Gotta send this to Hannity and Steyn and Jack Kelly.

I'll do Jack Kelly.

Happily.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,

O'Neill is a good debater and I'm going to give him my full support. I'm sending another contribution to fight the mad doctor Kerry and Hyde.

O'Neill, Win one for the Gipper.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drjohn wrote:
"When Kerry says “we were forced to give our medals back”


Doesn't look like anyone is forcing them to give their medals back - did you watch the video here on the main pg? "Phony War Crimes"/ scroll to "War Crimes Disinformation campaign" /scroll to "April 18-23, 1971" /scroll to "throw military medals & ribbons over fence"

They look pretty darn free to me! (Kerry is supposed to be in that video somewhere? but I don't see him?)

By the way, I missed this show. Was there a host? Don't see anything on the schedule for MSNBC indicating a show about Kerry....
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,


Beatrice1000 asked

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By the way, I missed this show. Was there a host? Don't see anything on the schedule for MSNBC indicating a show about Kerry....


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a reason why M$NBC's Rating are in the Toilet and a few of you witnessed it tonight. Noone watches this crap.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only caught it because I was on line here when it was posted
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: I am watching the rerun on west coast Reply with quote

It does not portray Kerry favorably. I could never vote for him after watching this.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am surprised that the MSM (Mainstream Media) is continuing to defend Kerry. I thought for sure that they would take a neutral position that would eventually lead to a conclusion that they were duped by Kerry and the Senators sitting on the Committee on Foreign Relations.

Otherwise, the truth will eventually come out that the MSM collaborated with Kerry and the Senators sitting on the Committee to stage this event to lie to Congress and the American People in order to assure the success of the liberal agenda - this will be hard for the MSM's to answer and will be more than an embarrassing disclosure - it will be a National shame in American history that cost a lot of lives.

As SwiftVets press beyond the election issues, MSM will eventually have to abandon their hope for an "agnostic conclusion" and will have to answer some hard questions - ie, were they co-collaborators in furthering the liberal agenda or were they duped by Kerry and the liberal Senators.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the program and here is what I got from it.

1) Confirmation of my belief that Kerry used Vietnam Vets to better himself.

Kerry’s testimony was executed in a professional manner. Contrary to what Kerry said about not being ready and surprised to be testifying alone. To me, Kerry appeared to have been professionally prepared well in advance of his testimony. It is a fact that Kerry was associated with Ted Kennedy at the time of Kerry’s testimony. I believe that Ted Kennedy saw to preparing Kerry personally. Although it was denied I believe that Robert Kennedy’s speech writer or another professional speech writer procured by Ted Kennedy advised or wrote and coached Kerry in the content of his testimony.

John Kerry not only turned his back on fellow Vietnam Vets (Band of Brothers) upon returning home by testifying of war crimes in the manner he did but he also used the VVAW members to better his personal agenda by disassociating himself with his own organization at a time when Kerry’s popularity with the media and democrat politicians was extremely high. For a person with a personal agenda this was inevitable.

It is not wrong for a person to have an agenda to succeed in life. That is the “American Way.” What is wrong is the way one achieves his goals. In the case of John Kerry at that time I believe there is a preponderance of evidence to support the case that John Kerry had in fact used, or should I say misused all sides of the issue to attain his personal goals.

2) John O’Neill was not Richard Nixon’s toy soldier that the leftist media often portrays him.

This program proved to me that John O’Neill was out there long before Nixon was aware of him. Nixon’s own oval office tapes used on tonights program proved that by the conversation between Colson and Nixon. Colson made Nixon aware of O’Neill long before Nixon invited him to the White House. Eventually Nixon did use Mr. O’Neill to further Nixon’s own agenda. Mr. O’Neill, on tonight’s MSNBC’s program stated he agreed to work with the White House on this issue because it would allow him more media exposure to make his (Mr. O’Neill’s not Nixon’s) case. I believe that Mr. O’Neill made a wise decision at that time as the attitude of the media certainly did not care what Mr. O’Neill had to say.

Right here I would like to thank Mr. O’Neill for his 33 year efforts to get out the truth.


Well, that’s what I got from the MSNBC program.

“Thanks for listening”

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richard Nixon loved America. The forces arrayed against him during his presidency was 10 times what we face today. When Arnold Swartznegger had the courage to say in his convention speech that Nixon was the reason he became a republican he got a rousing standing ovation. His wife, Maria Kennedy Shriver, joined in the tribute to this good and decent man.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:18 pm    Post subject: Hippy Chicks and cool Dudes Reply with quote

Hippy Chicks and cool Dudes-

I guess Kerry is going to have to look to this group of Americans to save thsi election. I hope they aren't too busy smoking weed and making love to make it to the polls in large numbers. If every body else stays home, Kerry actually has a chance.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rick Kaplan, a Clinton operative is the news chief at MSNBC. Do a Google and then you will know why MSNBC is so biased.

They have 2 semi conservatives on their whole staff as opposed to Chris Matthews and Tim Russert both of whom are DNC operatives.

Look at Tim Russert's Bio, he has cleaned it up so that you do not know he was Tip O’Neil’s right hand man. Matthews was a speech writer for the commie Jimmy Carter.

The MSNBC John Kerry special was a hit piece on the SBVT, Nixon and free advertising for the Kerry campaign.

I notice they left out the part where the Communist Party was supporting Kerry and Hanoi Jane. Look at the FBI files on the SBVT archives.

It is amazing that the media gets away with this propaganda
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