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ASPB
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| kyleparr wrote: | ASPB - Read Friends in High Places. Bechtel is a purely republican company. See biography of George Schultz. Democratic. Yikes.
The Iraqi goverment right now is a puppet organization. For you to put it forward as anything but is just crap.
dude. the media is not left wing. This is such a tired argument. I want to see statistics showing a left wing bias. Otherwise, leave this argument behind. See Rupert Murdoch and his several hudred newspapers and other media outlets. Rush Limbaugh and the entire AM dial.
You still have not answered why we are not attacking Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and UAE. They had definate ties to the terrorists. They are NOT democracies. they regularly violate human rights. Come on!! Why aren't you and all of your high and mighty bretheren saving them???
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Kyle,
You can read all the propaganda you want. I personally know several members of the family and they're conservative San Francisco Democrats. Though that may be changing as your party is corrupted by the radical left. Follow Reagan's lead from '62....switch parties.
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:04 pm Post subject: ! |
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Afghanistan had terror camps and we knew it. I agreed with going and cleaning the place out. Iraq did not.
Americans will NOT have jobs as a result of the Iraqi cleanup, or at least not many. The companies will play slave wages and bill the government at standard rates, announce record profits, and give the executive 30 million dollar bonuses. See Cheney leaving Halliburton.
I am not going to jump on the hating the French bandwagon. How lame is it, really? Get over the French.
I do believe that handing out no bid contracts to companies you used to head is crappy business. I also believe it might be illegal. I also think it stinks of starting wars that you can get paid to clean up. Cheney is a dirtbag. The only guy I know that was selected to conduct a search to find a VP candidate and determined that he should be it. Can you say Ego Maniac?
Noone here , none of you FREEDOM HOUNDS, has answered the question of why we are not attacking Saidi Arabia, Yeman, and UAE? Why? All of the terrorists orginiated there, they are huge violators of human rights, and they are not democracies. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for the Operation Middle East Freedom!!
I think the republican administration does not give a crap about democracy, freedom, or human rights. They care about $$$$$$$!!!
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ASPB
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Kyle Parr wrote:
| Quote: | | I do believe that handing out no bid contracts to companies you used to head is crappy business. I also believe it might be illegal. I also think it stinks of starting wars that you can get paid to clean up. Cheney is a dirtbag. The only guy I know that was selected to conduct a search to find a VP candidate and determined that he should be it. Can you say Ego Maniac? |
1. Cheney didn't hand out the contract, nor did Rumsfeld for that matter. It was assigned in strict compliance with DOD contract requirements and was totally legal. Please name one, just one, company in the world that has capabilities required to do the job other than Halliburton. Have a great search---you won't find one. It's kinda like if you want a VC-25 you have to buy it from Boeing because no-one else makes it.
2. It was a joke! As usual, the loonly left has absolutely no sense of humor.
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carpro
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: ! |
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| kyleparr wrote: | Afghanistan had terror camps and we knew it. I agreed with going and cleaning the place out. Iraq did not.
Americans will NOT have jobs as a result of the Iraqi cleanup, or at least not many. The companies will play slave wages and bill the government at standard rates, announce record profits, and give the executive 30 million dollar bonuses. See Cheney leaving Halliburton.
I am not going to jump on the hating the French bandwagon. How lame is it, really? Get over the French.
Noone here , none of you FREEDOM HOUNDS, has answered the question of why we are not attacking Saidi Arabia, Yeman, and UAE? Why? All of the terrorists orginiated there, they are huge violators of human rights, and they are not democracies. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for the Operation Middle East Freedom!!
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Iraq did. Ansar al islam.
Haliburton, as we write, is hiring Americans to drive trucks and other work for $80,000 per annum.
A little checking would lead you to find out that there are only two companies in the world capable of handling the job Halliburton is doing. One of them is a French company. Wanna talk about that bandwagon some more?
I did answer your question about Saudi Arabia. You just didn't like the answer.
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | There are a lot of repressive regimes in the Middle East. Hussein was arguably the worst. Excellent place to plant a democracy while getting rid of one of the biggest mass killers in history. |
Was that your answer? See, you are just justifying an unjust war. You are either trying to squash terrorism or not. We all agree that Saudi is home to most of the terrorists. Why not attack Saudi Arabia? Tell me.
Logisticaly, I believe the Army could do the job too. Does it have to be privatized? There is an interesting question for you. And yes, if the French company can do it better and cheaper, then give it to them. Adam Smith would say YES!
Here is an article from NewsMax catching Cheny in a lie about Halliburton:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/6/24/80648.shtml
And one about the current stink:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101040607-644111,00.html
BECHTEL
The board of Bechtel includes former secretary of state George Schulz and Caspar Weinberger. Is Bechtel a good choice to be the recipient of a huge contract to be paid with "the people's money"? Bechtel is currently being reviewed by the Massachusettes state inspector general for a 1 bilion dollar cost overrun on a highway/tunnel project. It did however tip 1.3 million dollars in PAC and soft money to republicans. |
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ASPB
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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KP wrote:
| Quote: | | And yes, if the French company can do it better and cheaper, then give it to them. Adam Smith would say YES! |
Yeah Righhhht! US tax dollars to a French company! You really ought to shake your head to check for loose screws. Besides, 33% of Haliburton's profits come straight back to the government in corporate taxes. A French company is going to bid 34% less? 
You'd be screaming your lungs out if DOD had awarded the contract to a French company
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carpro
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="kyleparr"] | Quote: | | There are a lot of repressive regimes in the Middle East. Hussein was arguably the worst. Excellent place to plant a democracy while getting rid of one of the biggest mass killers in history. |
Was that your answer? See, you are just justifying an unjust war. You are either trying to squash terrorism or not. We all agree that Saudi is home to most of the terrorists. Why not attack Saudi Arabia? Tell me.
Logisticaly, I believe the Army could do the job too. Does it have to be privatized? There is an interesting question for you. And yes, if the French company can do it better and cheaper, then give it to them. Adam Smith would say YES!
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My answer? You bet. Two birds with one stone.
No one said a French Co. could do it better or cheaper. Adam Smith would be wrong. Why hire French workers when we can hire AMERICANS? This is a no-brainer, Kyle. Get rid of your political bias for a moment and start thinking like a citizen. I'm starting to doubt your sincerity.
BTW You said you voted for Bush. Did you lie when you wrote that? Your rhetoric sounds too practised to be a fresh convert to the anti-Bush brigade.
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I did vote for Bush and am extremely disappointed.
I think the Army should do the job and Hallibuton should be thrown out.
I think that the French have much higher taxes than the Americans.
I am voting AGAINST Bush. |
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carpro
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| kyleparr wrote: | .
I think that the French have much higher taxes than the Americans.
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You missed ASPB's point. The French don't pay taxes to tha U.S.
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ASPB
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| carpro wrote: | | kyleparr wrote: | .
I think that the French have much higher taxes than the Americans.
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You missed ASPB's point. The French don't pay taxes to tha U.S. |
The corporate tax rate in France is 33 1/3% paid to the French, not the US, government.
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JN173
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| kyleparr wrote: |
I think the Army should do the job and Hallibuton should be thrown out.
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Tell me you're kidding, right? 
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BrianC
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| Just a reminder to my fellow Veterans and assorted friends here.... you're arguing with a guy (Kyleparr) who has admitted that he puts more stock in the word of Saddam Hussein and trusts more in communists. |
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Good distortion BrianC. You can be part of the Repulican slander machine.
Not that I care, but what I said was that Saddam looks like he was telling the truth right before the war and Bush looks like he was lying.
I also said the I trust communists more than Enron executives. |
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Big Kahuna
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:59 pm Post subject: Re: ! |
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| carpro wrote: | | kyleparr wrote: | Afghanistan had terror camps and we knew it. I agreed with going and cleaning the place out. Iraq did not.
Americans will NOT have jobs as a result of the Iraqi cleanup, or at least not many. The companies will play slave wages and bill the government at standard rates, announce record profits, and give the executive 30 million dollar bonuses. See Cheney leaving Halliburton.
I am not going to jump on the hating the French bandwagon. How lame is it, really? Get over the French.
Noone here , none of you FREEDOM HOUNDS, has answered the question of why we are not attacking Saidi Arabia, Yeman, and UAE? Why? All of the terrorists orginiated there, they are huge violators of human rights, and they are not democracies. Sounds like a perfect opportunity for the Operation Middle East Freedom!!
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Iraq did. Ansar al islam.
Haliburton, as we write, is hiring Americans to drive trucks and other work for $80,000 per annum.
A little checking would lead you to find out that there are only two companies in the world capable of handling the job Halliburton is doing. One of them is a French company. Wanna talk about that bandwagon some more?
I did answer your question about Saudi Arabia. You just didn't like the answer. |
Instead of complaining, why don't you go drive trucks in Iraq for $80K a year. You won't hear me complain if you do.
Safe environment, great looking babes, the best mens clubs, excellent casinos -- you can't beat Iraq for a fun time.
You couldn't pay me $160K a year to drive trucks there. I have a family to support on the long term.
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kyleparr
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| Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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On that we can agree Big Kahuna. I think they dock your pay if you get taken hostage.
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