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[twicearound]

In reference to the debate remarks, general remarks yes then in the transcript from Rush's show in the remarks Kerry made during the debate also said THAT DUMP. Someone posted the Rush transcript link and I posted the portion that said THAT DUMP


FOUND THE QUOTE

Rush wrote:
KERRY: You rely on good military people to execute the military component of the strategy. But winning the peace is larger than just the military component. General Shinseki had the wisdom to say you're going to need several hundred thousand troops to win the peace. The military's job is to win the war. The president's job is to win the peace. The president did not do what was necessary, didn't bring in enough nations, didn't deliver the help, didn't close off the borders, didn't even guard the ammo dumps. And now our kids are being killed with ammos right out of that dump.

RUSH: What dump, senator? What did you know back on October the 8th that the New York Times didn't report until October 25th? What ammo dump are you talking about, senator? Are you talking about the ammo dump that had no ammo in it that the New York Times made a big story of yesterday that's totally false and fraudulent? How did you know about this, senator, if that's the ammo dump you're talking about? The ammo dump with no weapons in it that therefore could be killing none of our troops? Which ammo dump are you talking about? Are you talking to the United Nations? You keep saying that you met with the UN Security Council when you didn't, trying to make yourself look like a big guy. What I've always said about Kerry: His stature doesn't speak for itself despite his height. He has to put other people down. He has to rip other people in order to make himself appear larger and bigger than everybody else.
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[Jack Mclaughlin]

Rush has got it exactly right. It is the story of collusion, collaboration and conspiracy involving the Kerry campaign and the MSM. But it`s even worse than that, this is treachery but will the American people get the message before Tuesday?

[kimberly]

Anyone watching Fox?

They just reported that the terrorists are claiming that they 'coordinated' from US intelligence and are in posession of the weapons.

Kimberly

[CandiM]

[PrinceLazar]

[GiveMeFreedom]

Check out this article from Jan. 2003, particularly the 2 parts I bolded:

Arms Inspectors Give Mixed Verdict on Iraq, US Adamant
Chief UN inspector Hans Blix said on Thursday his arms teams had not found "any smoking guns" in Iraq in their search for banned weapons but criticized Baghdad for holding back details of its arms programs.

Chief UN inspector Hans Blix said on Thursday his arms teams had not found "any smoking guns" in Iraq in their search for banned weapons but criticized Baghdad for holding back details of its arms programs.

In comments to the UN Security Council, he warned Baghdad that not finding any weapons of mass destruction did not mean there were none. It was up to Iraq to come clean, he said, thereby providing the United States with more ammunition in its case for war.

"Iraq cannot just maintain that it must be deemed to be without proscribed items as long as there is no evidence to the contrary," he said.

At the same time, the lack of any concrete evidence of an arms cache was expected to produce criticism of any move toward an attack, as the United States builds a powerful force in the Gulf region.

A clear effort was made by close US ally Britain as well as Germany to lower expectations that a major inspection report on Jan. 27 could be a trigger for military action.

But US Ambassador John Negroponte also stressed the burden remained on Iraq to reveal its arms programs. "Anything less is not cooperation and will constitute further material breach," he said, using legal code words that could mean war.

He said the inspectors were not in Baghdad "to serve as detectives working to overcome elaborate concealment mechanisms."

Britain's UN ambassador, Sir Jeremy Greenstock, said the inspectors needed more time to do their work but would come to the council if there was a serious violation.


"Calm Down"
"So by definition the 27th of January won't necessarily produce anything new or dramatic," he said. "So my advice is calm down."

And Germany's UN ambassador, Gunter Pleuger, said, "The inspections should continue, and for that reason there are no grounds for military action."

Blix and his counterpart Mohamed ElBaradei, who heads the International Atomic Energy Agency, briefed the Security Council behind closed doors on their assessments of Iraq's 12,000-page weapons declaration, submitted on Dec. 7.

"We now have been there for some two months and have been covering the country in ever-wider sweeps, and we haven't found any smoking guns," Blix said.

But that did not mean Iraq was clean of chemical, biological or nuclear weapons or ballistic missiles, he said, according to a text of his briefing.

"Prompt access is by no means sufficient to give confidence that nothing is hidden in a large country with an earlier record of avoiding disclosures," Blix said. "In this respect we have not so far made progress."

ElBaradei also said he needed more evidence before he could reach a conclusion on nuclear materials and urged Iraq to provide "active cooperation."

Blix called Iraq's arms declaration "rich in volume but poor in information about weapons issues and practically devoid of new evidence on such issues."

Blix said issues such as VX nerve gas and the import of missile engines and raw material for the production of solid missile fuel had not been accounted for.

He also described a new document Iraq had submitted that was snatched from a German inspector in 1998 at Baghdad's force headquarters, as revealing a "significant discrepancy concerning the numbers of special munitions."

Experts familiar with the document, given to Blix on Nov. 30, said it shows that 6,000 fewer 550-pound (250 kg) and 1,100-pound (500 kg) chemical bombs were used in Iraq's war against Iran, from 1980 to 1988, than Baghdad had claimed.

ElBaradei told the council UN nuclear experts were trying to track down a missing 32 tonnes of a high explosive known as HMX, which was placed under UN seal in 1998 and could be used to detonate a nuclear bomb.

But he said specially made aluminum tubes that Iraq was suspected of trying to buy to enrich uranium for weapons were actually intended for a rocket engine program, as Baghdad had claimed all along.

Oil prices rose after Blix's initial comments, which dealers believed could move Washington closer to carrying out a threat to attack to end any banned weapons programs.


Iraqi Response
In Baghdad, Gen. Hussam Mohammed Amin, the chief liaison office for the inspection teams, denied there were gaps in the arms declaration and an official Iraqi newspaper, al-Thawra, said Washington and London had formed an "axis of deception."

Blix said his weapons teams would begin interviewing scientists and other Iraqi experts shortly. But he did not say whether the Iraqis would be taken out of the country, perhaps to Cyprus, for that purpose, as the United States wants.

Amin said inspectors had made an informal request to interview experts outside the country.

"It was an idea. There is nothing official presented to us. It was an oral request by inspectors," he said.

France, which will play a key role in deciding whether the Security Council would say Iraq was in violation of a Nov. 8 resolution, urged Iraq to cooperate with the inspectors. Its UN ambassador, Jean-Marc de la Sabliere, said Baghdad had to give inspectors additional information "and lift uncertainty."

Any material breach would have to be assessed by the Security Council, according to its Resolution 1441. But the council does not necessarily have to authorize war although Britain, France and other members would prefer that option.

For a material breach to be declared, the resolution requires false statement or omissions in Iraq's arms declarations as well as a failure by Iraq to comply with and cooperate in implementing the resolution.

Link: http://english.people.com.cn/200301/10/eng20030110_109862.shtml
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[tony54]

I think originally Putin was helping Saddam and his regime with weapons of all kinds.
When the war was about to begin the Russians had the capability and manpower in Iraq to move all the WMD's and the 380 tons of explosives
to Syria and most likely did do it.
Putin had no fear of terrorists, he thought they only wanted to get the US and our allies.
But he was in for a rude awakening when terrorists hit that school and killed all those kids.
Putin knows he does't have the capability to fight a war on terror alone.
He even endorses Bush now.
He knows that he can be part of the solution, or part of the problem.
I think he will help us any way he can because it will be easier to fight terrorism with the help of the US, then without.

[Rdtf]

where is this Blix guy today? we need to hear from him and put this to rest.

[Poposwife_Retiredarmywife]

On Putin---

Every man comes to a point in his life where he can either wake up, or go back to sleep.

We call these 'Life changing moments'

When he saw his people, his children, bloodied and broken. He woke up.

Any time something terrible happens somewhere far away in the world there is a sense of unreality to it. Take our mindset before 9/11, once it happened to us we changed. As a people and as a country.

Let us all hope that this change for the people of Russia isn't as temporary as it was for some of us. Putins eyes are wide open now, and I firmly believe that IF he indeed helped as many say he did he lies awake at night with a pain in his chest, one that will NOT go away until he hunts down and kills every last one he deems responsible in any way.

He will likely go about it differently than our President, but be assured he'll do it. Unlike our President, IF he helped...this will be more than just retribution it will be a very personal form of revenge, because of the betrayal involved.

Just some food for thought, judge a man by how he comes to terms with past deeds and not just the deeds themselves.

Kerry has never, and will never come to terms. I believe Putin will, even if it is only in private.

Lorelei

[fb274]

Just thinking here! (not easy, tho)

Allawi was here and addressed Congress
Kerry made his horrible comments about him immediately

Al-Baradei has been in conflict of words and siding with Blix on Iraq; Bush is not being supportive for his next term as IAEA top dog

NY Times has done everything possible to denigrate Bush since he took office
CBS tried to take down Bush with the forged fake documents

Hmmmmmmmm-didn't I hear Allawi say in the address to Congress he would stand by Bush and be his ally------looks like he has already done a bit of repayment for liberating Iraq.

Kerry + El Bardi + NY Times + CBS = You screwed up BIG time JFK

(additional comment not truly connected to above, but while doing some searching found out that Robert S. Mueller & John F. Kerry were best friends while they both attended a private boarding school----St Pauls School, Concord, New Hampshire - 1957 - 1962. Did he leave his post right after Kerry was the semi-official canidate, or was it before---I listened to the 9/11 hearings and didn't fee the commission was all that tough on him--except for Jamie Goerlick.)

[kman]

Any chance we followed the trucks we spied loading up at the depot in question? Here is a declassified photo 2 weeks before we went in.

[sevry]

[chemical_boy]

The 380 tonnes number was wrong anyhow, as 138 tons RDX and 3 tons PETN had allready been moved by Saddam's forces
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