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grandforker · Seaman Recruit Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 44

Mrs. Knox is being shamefully manipulated by the Democrats and/or CBS. The more this develops, the more I'm convinced that she was Dan Rather's "unimpeachable source." Unfortunately for the Dems and CBS, the memos she claims she typed which conveniently prove all their allegations against Bush no longer exist. That's what created the need to magically restore the documents with MS Word.

From the time the document fraud story first broke, the standard spin from Rather and the Democrats has been that it didn't matter if the documents were forgeries because the content in them was true. Who else but Mrs. Knox could have made that statment with any degree of certainty?

She also seems to be the only person who knew that Killian kept a personal file of "CYA" memos. Again, this file was mentioned in CBS's original defense of the documents. Who else but Mrs. Knox would have known what even Killian's son and wife didn't know?

Many of the statements made by Mrs. Knox about Bush sound like Democratic talking points. Perhaps she is a partisan Democrat whose memory has been selectively jogged to match what she's been watching on the news. Or perhaps she's been in contact with Democratic operatives who made suggestions about what she should remember and how it would be helpful to get the president she despises out of office.

Read the editorial in the LA Times. While taking CBS to task for relying on forgeries, it also says that no proof of the allegations against Bush are needed because everyone knows that they're true. That's the type of thinking that we're dealing with from both the Democrats and the media.

Truth no longer matters. The only thing that matters is getting Bush out of office.
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FireFox · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 84

Paul R. · PO3 Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 273 Location: Illinois

Ok, I don't mean to be mean to an old lady, but if she can't even remember accurately back to Friday, or has "spun" it in her own mind...

Like I said, memory can be a funny thing.
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GoEagles · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: What did CBS expect?

RobD · Lt.Jg. Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 147 Location: Reno Nv

Just saw on ABC the note that Rather called the old lady last night. Hmm, I wonder what they talked about?
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/TheNote/TheNote.html
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1AD · Lt.Jg. Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 138

Allow me to clear up what I was trying to say. My thoughts got ahead of my typing. Dan originally said the documents and contents are real/correct/verbatim.

If the forger had been smart he would have produced hand-written memos and the typed memo from Killian. The Killian signed document was to throw us off and follow a false lead. “Ah, if the documents are all together then the un-signed documents are from Killian as well.” We didn’t fall for this. We discovered the memos were forged.

So we now know the documents are forgeries so that leaves the contents. If the handwritten originals had been released we could determine who wrote them because of the verbiage, a/o syntax a/o handwriting. So if the forger said I will re-type for legibility that would have been better for this person and Dan could have stated this. Dan has never said I have hand-written documents that were re-typed for legibility. This is done in legal proceedings all the time. [I should have used this word and not “clarify.”] But forger was dumb. They tried to pass off “original” typewritten documents as all coming from Killian. Remember the false scent.

Bottom line. There are no handwritten documents. All documents from forger are typed. So content is also false and of course “Sexed up.”

GoEagles · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:49 pm Post subject:

In case you missed it, Jonah Goldberg had a great piece in yesterday's NRO about Rathergate - http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200409140649.asp
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Absolut · Seaman Recruit Joined: 10 Sep 2004 Posts: 22

Heh.. Check this out.. Apparently a Tennessee Democrat talked abou tthese upcoming memos on AUG 11!!! Implying that the DEMS knew this was coming...

http://billhobbs.com/hobbsonline/004499.html

a6502 · Ensign Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Posts: 64

[quote="FireFox"]I think that this is mainly used for printing as screens can't
display anywhere near 1440 pixels/inch.[/quote]

My point was that the 'scale' did not even exist in '73. Your screen resolution is (standard) 96 dots/inch while print resolution is 72 point/inch. All TrueType characters use a scale that 'lines up' to both screen and print. This is because of the 'common denominator' issue.

This scale PROVES that the 'font' used is TrueType, and it COULD NOT have existed in '73.

lrb111 · Captain Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 508

Steve Z · Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:24 pm Post subject: Setup from last month?

If this had been planned since August 11, why didn't some Democratic genius take the time to check the fonts in Bush's records on the Web and type "Killian's" memos in the same font? They wouldn't even need a secretary, in a month somebody could hunt and peck those memos!

Methinks they didn't see the elephant in the living room...
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1AD · Lt.Jg. Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 138

The dumb forger figured if he got the forgeries past Dan then they would develop legs of their own. He/she did not anticipate that we would almost instantaneously discover that the documents as to form were forgeries and even if we did he probably hoped he could sneak by on the contents. Again he was beaten, Due to the enormous experience we have with military matters we were able to quickly refute the content as well. Check and then checkmate.

1AD · Lt.Jg. Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 138

The dumb forger figured if he got the forgeries past Dan then they would develop legs of their own. He/she did not anticipate that we would almost instantaneously discover that the documents as to form were forgeries and even if we did he probably hoped he could sneak by on the contents. Again he was beaten, Due to the enormous experience we have with military matters we were able to quickly refute the content as well. Check and then checkmate.

noc · PO1 Joined: 24 Aug 2004 Posts: 492 Location: Dublin, CA

All I can say now is thank you Adobe for creating PDF.

Without it the blogospere would have never been able to prove the forgeries.

Any bets on whether CBS will post PDFs as evidence in the future?

GT · Seaman Apprentice Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 90

Everytime I see the suspension letter on TV someone is pointing to the "th" at the top and getting out the rulers, but what about the address of "P.O. Box 34567"? Does that sound like a real P.O. Box to you?