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failedminus Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:30 am Post subject: bush cutting va funds |
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has anyone seen this about how he wants to cut the va spending for things like health care for us if he gets re elected. questionable activities |
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Can't you find something a bit more up to date? This claim has been discredited many times.
Why the masquerade as a nuetral person? |
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failedminus Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:35 am Post subject: |
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no this is actually recent stuff that cam out in the budget report a few days ago. discredit it right now. come on do it for me. are you saying they didn't release this information saying they were cutting spending for the va? |
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LewWaters Admin
Joined: 18 May 2004 Posts: 4042 Location: Washington State
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:39 am Post subject: |
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First off, are you even a veteran? I don't discuss veteran issues with non-veterans.
Secondly, the VA is currently spending more than it ever has in it's history. |
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failedminus Seaman Recruit
Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 24
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:42 am Post subject: |
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yes i am a veteran. we are not discussing how much they are spending right now we are discussing how much they won't be able to spend if bush is re elected and how you are going to apparently discredit the budget report that the white house released. |
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Navy_Navy_Navy Admin
Joined: 07 May 2004 Posts: 5777
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:48 am Post subject: |
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The Dems claim that VA funding has been cut under Bush - in fact, it is at historically high levels and has increased *twice as fast* under Bush as it did under Clinton. Spending for Veterans has gone up 41% under the Bush Administration.
Funding for Veterans up 27%, but Democrats call it a cut:
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docID=144
Veterans Administration Gets Record Budget For 2004:
http://usgovinfo.about.com/cs/veterans/a/vabudget04.htm
Secretary Principi discusses VA Spending for 2005:
http://www1.va.gov/opa/feature/secyspchs/budget_2005_npc.htm
Quote: | President Bush will ask Congress to provide my department, the VA, with $67.7 billion in budget authority for fiscal year 2005, an increase in budget authority of $5.6 billion over the current fiscal year, 2004. This budget will build on and solidify the dramatic increase in access to health care veterans have enjoyed over the past three years, as well as allow us to continue improving benefits delivery. |
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War Dog Captain
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 517 Location: Below Birmingham Alabama
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Okay, failedminus, what service, years in, units/bases attached to, job in the military?
Woof! _________________ "When people are in trouble, they call the cops.
When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit." |
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xsquid Lt.Jg.
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 140
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Why don't you quit harping on lies. Here's the actual va increase's for the past two presidents.
http://www.factcheck.org/article.aspx?docid=144
Bush is not even remotely cutting va health care spending. I spend a lot of time at the va facilities and can tell you point blank that they have more staff and it's easier to get care than it was with clintoon.
Hehe, you posted yors as I was getting this link from the other thread 3 navy.
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failedminus Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:52 am Post subject: |
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i don't have to go into details but i was a mp in the army and served in afghanistan and iraq. we are not talking about 2004 we are talking about if bush is re elected what he plans to do in the year 2005 |
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War Dog Captain
Joined: 10 May 2004 Posts: 517 Location: Below Birmingham Alabama
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | i don't have to go into details but i was a mp in the army and served in afghanistan and iraq. |
Why not go into details? Years in, duty stations, units if you please?
Woof! _________________ "When people are in trouble, they call the cops.
When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit." |
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failedminus Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:55 am Post subject: |
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3 years 4 months, 82nd Mp co and 108th mp co at ft. bragg north carolina |
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xsquid Lt.Jg.
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 140
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:56 am Post subject: |
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The projected spending for 2005 is on the factcheck scale. |
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Greenhat LCDR
Joined: 09 May 2004 Posts: 405
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:56 am Post subject: |
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failedminus wrote: | i don't have to go into details but i was a mp in the army and served in afghanistan and iraq. we are not talking about 2004 we are talking about if bush is re elected what he plans to do in the year 2005 |
Which is the budget this year. If you served, why are you unfamiliar with the fiscal year used by the US government?
"Was" an MP, served in Afghanistan and Iraq. How is that possible? Stop loss not affect you? _________________ De Oppresso Liber |
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failedminus Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 4:59 am Post subject: |
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it did effect me. i was supposed to get out aug 23 2003 but got out dec 20 2003. they lifted the stop loss in july and extended me 4 months so i could clear and everything |
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xsquid Lt.Jg.
Joined: 25 May 2004 Posts: 140
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Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 5:02 am Post subject: |
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Here's the first part or the article on factcheck. You lefties should have been yelling when clinton was in and my appointments would get cancelled after waiting 6 months for them and all I heard about was staff cuts.
Quote: | In Bush’s first three years funding for the Veterans Administration increased 27%. And if Bush's 2005 budget is approved, funding for his full four-year term will amount to an increase of 37.6%.
In the eight years of the Clinton administration the increase was 31.7%
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