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[War Dog]

think we all need to take a look at our own conduct here on these boards. The Administrator is right with his post on the main board. It's well past time to start instituting some rules and common decency among ourselves. We all should start policing ourselves before the Administrator is forced to do it for us.

We all should take the high road, and not the low one. Prove that you are the better person, by replying to topics and discussions without resorting to anger, cussing (to a degree), calling each other names, losing your cool with fellow posters, and to a certain degree start using a little decorum in referring to all elected officials (yes, including John F. Kerry).

All of us are supposed to be mature adults, and if we cannot openly debate and discuss the issues and topics without resorting to the above actions, then how do we ever expect to get our points across or change anyone's points of view. Let's educate each other by proving our points, providing backups of what we say, and show that we are the better people.

Those that want to come here and troll, attack, slander, insult, call names, be nasty towards others will be dealt with in time by either the Administrator or any modererators that are chosen or volunteer to police the boards. Let's work together to make this one of the best damn boards on the net.

Let's show all those that are coming here to attack us that we can keep our collective cool, and show the world that we are here to get the information out to the world concerning how we feel about John F. Kerry, and why we feel that he shouldn't be President and Commander-in-Chief by using proof, logic, common sense, decency and civil behavior between ourselves. If the majority of the Vietnam Veterans and other Veterans who are against John Kerry can pull together here, we can ensure that John F. Kerry is defeated in November.

But we will not accomplish our objective if we continue to fight each other, call each other names, etc... What about it, can we pull together? Or does this board have to lower it's standards to boards and places like the DNC, moveon.org, ** and others?

Woof
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When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit."

[ASPB]

I agree totally Dog.

However, I reserve the right to trash clearly indentified trolls!

BTW, I've seen some photos from H3 that indicate he's a vet. A clearly misguided Vet and you've been doing a good job of trying to straighten him out today.

Tom
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[95 bxl]

[ASPB]

[waltjones]

I sincerely regret the use of the word "*******" (once). However, this unfortunate incident was mitigated by the fact that it was directed at Craig. I'll make every effort to behave myself in the future.

Semper Fi!
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[ASPB]

Here are some suggestions for rules of behavior in the forum. Please feel free to comment on any changes you think are appropriate. After review of comments, I'll post a revised set for review and send them to Admin as our suggestions on how to govern ourselves.

ASPB


§A. Post Requirements

I. All posts must be constructive and on-topic. Off-topic or non-constructive content will be edited or removed.

II. All new topics must have a clearly defined question to debate in the first post or they will be closed/removed.

§B. Prohibited Items

I. Inflammatory or hateful comments related to race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or age.

II. Personal attacks, name-calling, or belittling another member.

III. Excessive or gratuitous use of profanity.

IV. Excessive use of Inappropriate sexual references or terminology.

V. Excessive and redundant posting full or partial texts of copyrighted materials, regardless of ownership.

VI. Posting images. To avoid the posting of copyrighted images, all images must be posted via a text link or include copyright info if available.

VII. Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages - SPAM is a general term used to describe anything from a link to an online petition, a blog, or an advertisement for a product/service to a one line “I agree” post or a post consisting of nothing but emoticons. Duplicate posts are considered as SPAM. Posts are determined as SPAM on a case-by-case basis.

VIII. Questioning moderator or administrator action in a debate topic. Questions regarding moderation are not constructive and should be addressed via personal message.

IX. Unnecessary use of color. Posts are to be mainly black, and color may be used for emphasis.

§C. Instant-ban Items

I. Posts containing private information about any other member.

II. Theft of another member's forum identity. Any impersonation of a member of this forum in any manner is strictly prohibited.

III. Posts that contain pornography or warez, or posts that serve to promote pornography, warez, or any illegal activities or materials.

IV. Multiple memberships. Only one account per person is allowed without prior authorization from an administrator.

§D. Personal Correspondence and Information

I. Sending harassing correspondence of any sort to any member is prohibited. This includes personal messages, email, etc.

II. Posting personal message exchanges without consent from all parties involved is prohibited. This applies to correspondence between other members AND correspondence between staff.

III. Posting email addresses, yours or otherwise, is prohibited. This is for your protection.
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[DELTREE]

I think you should post what is in your heart. Don't forget we are dealing with the other side: the COMMUNIST/SOCIALIST, who we where willing to give our lives for and some have. I am not here to play patty cakes with these communist. TELL IT LIKE IT IS! Don't worry about their fellings for they don't give a dam about you or I.

WE DON"T NEED RULES AND SUCH WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH THEM!
FOR THEY WILL TAKE YOUR LIFE IF THEY HAVE TO!!

GOD BLESS the AMERICAN VET

"SADDLE UP!!"

[AZ3]

I gotta agree with War Dog. As I posted in another thread, this site is becoming increasingly known to the media and the public. Because of that we all have the opportunity to assist the effort to inform others of the true nature of John Kerry and to have an impact on current affairs.

The best way to do that is to keep to the higher ground, to assist those who visit here looking for information, to show ourselves in the best possible light. Difficult I know, given the posts seen recently by those who support John Kerry, but not impossible.

Respond if you gotta, get pissed if you can't help it, but don't stoop to their level. Let the Adminstrator do his job but don't rise to the bait if challenged by Kerry supporters. They have nothing to use but insults and they will use those insults in order to cast us in the worst possible light. That can only happen if we act like them.

Keep focused on November, keep Kerry out of the White House.
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[95 bxl]

The problem with your proposed rules, ASPB, is that, if they were implemented.... no Kerry supporter could, or would, EVER post here!

Heh.

[War Dog]

I'm sure that the administrator and moderator(s) will use common sense when policing the threads. For those of us who are military veterans, a certain amoung of language is to be expected. It's the content of that language that is the problem. It's the hate, anger and attacks on other members here that is the problem.

It's okay to be pissed, to get mad, but it's not okay to attack others by using language that you wouldn't want your daughter or son to hear or use. Of course for some of us, that would be your grandchildren!

AZ made a good point, in that we are in a fish bowl here, and alot of people are looking at us and this site. If we as concerned members want to seriously stop John F. Kerry from being elected in November, we all have to pull together, and police each other and our actions here. To keep acting and reacting as we have been will only convince others that visit here or come here to post that we are a totally pro-Bush and totally anti/we hate Kerry website, which we aren't.

Let's let the Administrator and Moderator(s) clean up the boards, and do their jobs, but let's make it easier on them by cleaning up our acts. Let the trolls and pro Kerry people visit here and make a$$es out of themselves, while we remain calm, and use common sense in our postings, and deal strictly with the issues and topics that will keep John F. Kerry out of office.

If it isn't true, and you can't prove it, don't post it. If you post it, provide links to prove what you say. If you copy something from another site, provide links and copyright information such as date, name of site/media/newspaper/etc., and name of author(s). Sites have been sued for it's members violating copyright laws.

Of course, personal opinion is always accepted, but stick with the issues and topics that benefit us, and our mission. Don't get sidetracked, don't be sucked in by the trolls. Let the Administrator and moderator(s) deal with them.

Sound okay to ya'll?

Woof!
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"When people are in trouble, they call the cops.

When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit."

[stop kerry]

To remove the PAID FLAMING TROLLS from Kerryland just say NO diatribes for anyone is allowed against others on any of the Boards-- period. On the outside board take the obvious trouble makers OFF -make it retroactive for some if necessary.
Have delayed response time required and a group to review and stop

First everyone should be made to fill out their PROFILE to the administrator = who, when, where, what etc.

WHO are you

When were you in the military -Name, rank, unit(s), stationed, battle Yes/no? years in service regular or reserve.???

Where are you email address, state, city? etc.

What do you do now???

Please notice I don't care what Party or candidate you support because I believe real vets can still talk to each other fairly but opinions given with quotes and sources shoud be limited- not 5-10 page articles-who has time to read them?? Unlike the PAID TROLLS most of us have a life other than sending Flaming emails. However I cannot resist a quote I just saw from Kerry today: I love the first sentence It really makes me remember why you have this site - Kerry's hypocricy must be exposed

"The first definition of patriotism is to keep faith with those who have worn the uniform of the United States,'' Kerry said in remarks prepared for delivery at the rally. ``And the first duty of a commander in chief is to make America strong and keep Americans safe. It's time to do what it takes to build an America that is respected in the world once more.''
Yada Yada Yada

[War Dog]

We'll work things out, one way or the other. If all the regular members here police themselves, then the Administrator and Moderator(s) will just have to deal with anybody that comes here to troll. The aim isn't to limit anyone who is a veteran from posting their thoughts, comments and opinions here, and for all on the main board, but to clean up the attacks, false information, lies, rumors, name calling, and possible copyright violations.

We can still answer those that tick us off, we just have to do it without violating the rules. If other sites can do it, so can we.

Woof!
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"When people are in trouble, they call the cops.

When cops need help, they call the K-9 unit."

[Craig]

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