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thrawn21 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 33
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:11 am Post subject: Mushroom cloud seen in N. Korea - Kerry's response? |
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http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040912/ap_on_re_as/nkorea_explosion&cid=516&ncid=716
Three words: Oh my God!
Just what we need now, an North Korea armed with nuclear bombs and with missles that can reach the Western coast.
I wonder how Kerry will fit N. Korea into his plan for fighting a "kinder, gentler" War on Terror? _________________ "Anyone can make an error. But that error doesn't become a mistake until you refuse to correct it" - Grand Admiral Thrawn, from the book Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn |
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The Balloon Artist PO3
Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 262 Location: Texas
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:33 am Post subject: |
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Let's all send those Kudos to Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. _________________ What about John Kerry's four months in Vietnam qualify him to be president?
Al Gore was there for five. |
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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000 LCDR
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 426 Location: Northern New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Massive explosions with a mushroom cloud dont always mean its nuclear. it just means the explosion was massive. though the reports of the crater being visible from satellite is very alarming to me.
Reports are too sketchy to make any conclusions, if its a nuke, it means NK is trying to flex it with the big boys. I still dont think they would attack us. Japan maybe one day but us not yet. _________________ John Kerry, R.I.P. (Rot In Paris) |
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TEWSPilot Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1235 Location: Kansas (Transplanted Texan)
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Dan Rather will probably report that a giant "Texas sized" mushroom exploded in North Korea, and it is further proof that GW Bush failed to complete his National Guard duty during the Korean War because while he was supposedly in Alabama, he was actually hiding a stash of old mushrooms in North Korea to get even with the Commies because that war ended in a cease fire just like he knew the first Gulf War would end years later when his father would be President and the mushrooms just now reached critical mass. _________________ Find the perfect babysitter, petsitter, or tutor -- today! |
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the0point Lt.Jg.
Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 140
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:07 am Post subject: |
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Kerry's people are going to spin this that the war in Iraq was a distraction, that the US should have had unilateral discussions with N. Korea and we should have "engaged in a dialogue". They are going to say we have George Bush's failed Iraq adventure to blame for this. The MSM is going to pound this for the last few months to try to get Kerry into office. CBS will be extra tough, to avoid reporting on the memos anymore.
If N. Korea starts making demands this could get ugly very fast. Because Bush is going to stand firm, as he should.
And yes, I believe this very well might be a nuke. The cloud was 2 miles wide. |
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msindependent Vice Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 891 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Kerry's response, he would get the UN on it asap. |
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J. Toy Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 96 Location: Pa.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:31 am Post subject: |
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If this is true, (a nuke), how many people died or will die from the radiation?
The area isn't that big.. _________________ Corpsman, 1969-1973 |
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Chuck Z Ombie AC2000 LCDR
Joined: 19 Aug 2004 Posts: 426 Location: Northern New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:40 am Post subject: |
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Im guessing they tested this in a remote area, if in fact it is a nuke.
Kim hates Bush and i think a long with showing he does have a nuke capability he is thumbing his nose at the president. BTW we cant touch Korea without China's approval. This will get messy. _________________ John Kerry, R.I.P. (Rot In Paris) |
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Wing Wiper Rear Admiral
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 664 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:42 am Post subject: |
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This was observed 3 days ago, correct? If it was an above-ground test (which it was, if there was a mushroom cloud) then the radiation will be detected in the U.S. The last Chinese nuclear test (I can't remember the year, around 1970) shut down the Idaho Nuclear Engineering Lab from the small amount of fallout that reached the U.S. My dad worked there at the time, and the fallout was enough to set off all of their monitoring equipment and cause the site to close to all foot traffic until the radiation control team could swab the entire inside of the buildings with blotter paper. I'm positive the U.S. knows by now whether this was a nuclear test or not, including the type of bomb, the yield and the mass and efficiency of the design. |
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J. Toy Seaman Apprentice
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 96 Location: Pa.
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Then it would have to be an accident and not a "fireworks show."
Even a nut bag wouldn't test nukes above ground in an area the size of Massachusetts. _________________ Corpsman, 1969-1973 |
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TEWSPilot Admiral
Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 1235 Location: Kansas (Transplanted Texan)
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:52 am Post subject: |
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J. Toy wrote: | Then it would have to be an accident and not a "fireworks show."
Even a nut bag wouldn't test nukes above ground in an area the size of Massachusetts. |
...we're talking about Kim Jong Mentally Ill, right? _________________ Find the perfect babysitter, petsitter, or tutor -- today! |
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msindependent Vice Admiral
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Wing Wiper Rear Admiral
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 664 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:06 am Post subject: |
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The other report stated there was a crater they could see in satellite images. These two reports don't add up. If there's a crater, it wasn't a forest fire, if there's no crater, maybe.
Quote: | Yonhap reported the explosion happened in Yanggang province along the Chinese border, the site of Yongjori Missile Base -- a large facility with an underground missile firing range. |
Or maybe a missile blew up and started a forest fire? That's plausible. |
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ccr Commander
Joined: 10 Aug 2004 Posts: 325
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | ...an underground missile firing range. |
How the heck is that supposed to work?
I don't think my mom would have been very happy if I had tried to fire off a couple of my Estes Rockets in the basement. _________________ Whose side is John Kerry really on? Take this quiz and decide for yourself.
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Wing Wiper Rear Admiral
Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Posts: 664 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | How the heck is that supposed to work? |
They probably have the motors mounted under cover, firing into a blast deflector that vents to the surface. Thiokol in Utah (another place my dad worked in the 60's ) did this. That might explain the whole thing, mushroom cloud and crater.
Quote: | I don't think my mom would have been very happy if I had tried to fire off a couple of my Estes Rockets in the basement. |
I set one off in our fireplace once. It pretty much scoured the entire ash pile into a cloud and sent it into our livingroom. I cleaned up for hours and still got some funny questions when mom got home. |
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