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Theresa Alwood
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It was my understanding that both candidates knew and approved the questions prior to the debate. ?????
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| BuffaloJack wrote: | | Lehrer made a point at the intro to the debate of stating that neither candidate knew what questions were to be asked. |
I don't believe it; Kerry's gaffe about "we'll be getting to that later" was pregnant with meaning.
However, what I would like to see is a thorough line-by-line FISKING of Kerry's statements. I heard a lot of outright distortions in it.
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| ATACKM wrote: | | NYCnative wrote: | | Pres Bush was trying to take tooooo much of the high road.... |
Nope: President Bush needs to "Stay the Course" ! He made the points about Iraq and in my eyes covered Vietnam as well ! Simply put he told Kerry that you can't flip-flop and have your troops behind you. You can't be a war hero in a war that you called a mistake ! Nah, Bush needs to stay on the high road. I enjoyed Bush pointing out that in one breath Kerry wants to build alliances and then points out that he called the interim Iraqi president a puppet. "John Kerry, Makin' friends already" !
I must admit, I have a new respect for Kerry, He is one of the best Bull Sh#!ers I've ever seen. Make it up as you go along. "The one thing that Kerry is consistant with is that he's inconsistant" Best statement of the night! (IMHO) |
Maybe your right! But I would have liked it if he made the connection between Zarqawi, Ramsey Yusef and Saddam.. He did say all the right things, but I hoped he would make the case to the "undecided" as to the facts regarding Saddam prior to the war.. I guess we have to wait for the "October surprise", which in John Batchler's and John Loftus's eyes will be the connection between Libya and Saddams weapons of mass destruction. Namely the "nuke" program...
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I'd rather have Martha Stewart as our next President than John Kerry. Atleast our nation would be colorful and beautiful. 
I didn't take his comment to mean that he was secretly told anything and I think anyone who thinks it did is just grasping at straws. We'll talk more about that once this paragraph is written. That last sentence meant that I'm going to convey my thoughts to you and you + me makes "we".
Of course Homeland Security was going to be part of the debate and if it wasn't asked out right I'm sure he planned on adding his two cents or figured Bush would bring it up.
The polls have Kerry winning the debate. I don't see how that is possible.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Did anybody catch this -- collusion??? |
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| Wynne wrote: | (I thought I was going to sleep tonight -- hah!)
Here is something that made the antennae of both my husband and me go up big time tonight when we heard it. I am now reading through the debate transcript and it is more than ever apparent to me -- am I too suspicious? Or does anybody else wonder about this...
In his answer to the 1st question, 'Do you believe you could do a better job than President Bush in preventing another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States? " John Kerry ended his answer by saying, "All of these, and especially homeland security, which we'll talk about a little bit later."
HOW DID HE KNOW THEY WERE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT LATER?
I really encourage you to send your observations to Drudge Report, although I would leave out the shaking hands part, because I'm sure I saw President Bush go over to shake Leher's hand. Drudge Report has a message box for tips on the lower right side of his web site.
Later....
The 5th question was posed to Kerry first and Lehrer said, "We'll come back to Iraq in a moment. But I want to come back to where I began, on homeland security. This is a two-minute new question, Senator Kerry."
After the debate, Lehrer and Kerry had a short conversation. I believe they shook hands. I did not see Lehrer speak to the President at all. But I may have missed it.
Am I nuts? Paranoid at 2 in the a.m.? The above exchange in the debate sure looks fishy to me. Anybody else think so? |
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Oh there was a question...
IMO..... no nothing looked fishy.
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NewsMax had a good writeup about the questions that Jim Leyher asked.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/9/30/223850.shtml
" | Quote: | Here's a sampling:
"You said there was a miscalculation in Iraq," Lehrer asked the president. "What was it and how did it happen?"
"What colossal misjudgments, in your opinion," Lehrer asked Kerry, "has President Bush made in these areas [Iraq]?"
To Bush: "Mr. President, has Iraq been worth the cost in American lives -10,052 - I mean 1,052 up to today?"
To Kerry: "You've repeatedly accused President Bush of lying to the American people on Iraq. Give us some examples of the president being untruthful on Iraq." |
Emphasis was mine.
And there is another story also. http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/10/1/93858.shtml
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| Theresa Alwood wrote: | | It was my understanding that both candidates knew and approved the questions prior to the debate. ????? |
Maybe I am wrong but I watched Jim Lehrer's prep of the audience on C-Span prior to the debate and I could've sworn he said the questions had been prepared by him and neither candidate had seen them prior to the debate or knew what they were.
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| thegunnerswife wrote: |
Of course Homeland Security was going to be part of the debate and if it wasn't asked out right I'm sure he planned on adding his two cents or figured Bush would bring it up.
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Yes, I accept that. But by Kerry's saying, essentially, he would defer his discussion of homeland security, e.g. We'll talk about that later -- makes me think either he had seen the questions beforehand -- OR -- he was arrogantly usurping the Moderator's position by taking charge of the debate and telling Lehrer and Bush he'd address homeland security later on when he felt like bringing it into the debate.
In the clear light of day, the latter explanation seems the more plausible. Or at least AS plausible. 
omigod it just occured to me: Maybe he was simply referring to himself but using the Royal "We" LOL! 
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thegunnerswife
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To answer the question... Both candidates knew what the topics were going to be discussed for the first night of debating.
| Quote: | | Thursday night's 90-minute debate, the first of three within thirteen days for the two presidential candidates, provides opportunities for both candidates to boost their standing in the heated campaign. The debate, moderated by PBS's Jim Lehrer, will focus on foreign policy and homeland security and will have at least 16 questions. |
This is a blurb from
Steve Roeder
Talon News
September 30, 2004
I found it on the net and will look for more.
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Yes, they knew the topics. But I haven't heard anywhere that they knew the specific questions beforehand. But you're right maybe Kerry just assumed there would be a question opportunity later on to address homeland security.
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This found in the first few paragraphs in the Transcript on FoxNews.com
| Quote: | JIM LEHRER, ANCHOR AND EXECUTIVE EDITOR, PBS' "THE NEWSHOUR": Good evening from the University of Miami Convocation Center in Coral Gables, Florida. I'm Jim Lehrer of "The NewsHour" on PBS.
And I welcome you to the first of the 2004 presidential debates between President George W. Bush, the Republican nominee, and Senator John Kerry, the Democratic nominee.
These debates are sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.
Tonight's will last 90 minutes, following detailed rules of engagement worked out by representatives of the candidates. I have agreed to enforce their rules on them.
The umbrella topic is foreign policy and homeland security, but the specific subjects were chosen by me, the questions were composed by me, the candidates have not been told what they are, nor has anyone else.
For each question there can only be a two-minute response, a 90-second rebuttal and, at my discretion, a discussion extension of one minute.
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So Bush and Kerry knew what the topic was going to be - however did not know the specific questions.
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Wynne,
I hope you don't think I was defending Kerry. I can't stand the man and I'd rather move to the moon than this man becoming my husband's next boss.
I just see so many people so passionate about Kerry losing (like myself) that they grasp for straws when trying to out him.
I am pro-Bush - no denying it. In this race I'd be Pro-Big Bird if it meant keeping Kerry out of office.
lol!
Jilly
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omigod it just occured to me: Maybe he was simply referring to himself but using the Royal "We" LOL! |
LOL - That is how I originally took it. And he IS an arrogant b******.... ggggrrrrr!!! lol!
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| Wynne wrote: | | I want to correct something I said in my initial post. I said I did not see Lehrer speak to President Bush at the end of the debate. There was a replay of this just now and he definitely did go over and speak to President Bush. |
You know... that's something interesting that I have seen that is differen't from the left and the right (no offense to the lefties here intended!)....cons correct their mistakes and don't make a fuss/save face move... (again, not all people are the same, and no offense intended).
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