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cgc Seaman Recruit
Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 47
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 7:27 am Post subject: I would like to know |
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I would like to know why so much time is spent debating Kerry's Viet Nam record. Actually this might be a ploy to turn people away from his non-record as a U S Senator. For you see if we look long and hard at his political career we will find this guy is a loser. Worst voting record in the senate, aligned with some of the most greasy, slippery politicans, and lobbyists in the USA. Married to a women with interests in a company that does the majority of its manufacturing overseas, yet I bet he cashes his part of the checks. And he has the nerve to stand up if front of us and complain about the loss of jobs going overseas. Far as I can discern, Kerry brings up his so called tour of Viet Nam because he has nothing else to run on. But maybe one of his defenders will jump in here and enlighten me as to the man's qualifications to be the next President, and again maybe they won't because it seems his defenders are only interested in defending his "war record".
CGC An Toi, Danang 68-69 |
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panther1505 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 18
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:16 pm Post subject: 100% AGREE |
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CGC,
I totally agree with you. We should also be looking at Kerry's political record. Now that you put it the way you did, I think that he keeps bringing up his Vietnam service, to draw attention away from his poor political record.
Because, I'll tell you, I'll admit that I am guilty of falling for it. Every time I hear him, or his wife, or whoever, bring up how John Kerry is a war hero, or that John Kerry earned his medals the old fashioned way,
IT ABOUT MAKE ME WANT TO PUKE.
I myself, don't consider John Kerry a Vet. They way he (was lucky enough) came home, and started protesting the war, and disgracing his fellow comrades in arms, and the way he threw his MEDALS, into the that fountain, claiming that it was symbolizing throwing away the weapons of war. Then he went on to claim that he didn't throw his medals in the fountain, they were his ribbons.
John Kerry is a disgrace, and I can only hope that those who are undecided still, will see him for who and what he truly is.
UNFIT TO BE COMMANDER IN CHIEF. _________________ Mike Davis
Warren, Mich.
82nd Airborne Division
CSC 1/505th Airborne Infantry
1980 - 1983 |
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cgc Seaman Recruit
Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 47
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:04 pm Post subject: Yep its a smoke screen |
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Panther 1505,
Its a smoke screen in my opinion, other than his supposed "hero" actions in Viet Nam, what else does he bring to the table based on his senate record. I can't read about or even hear reported anything that sets this puke apart from anybody else who can qualify to run for president. In fact this clown has one of the most dismal records in the U.S.Senate. He has grabbed onto the one and only thing that he feels sets him apart from the rest of the politicans, his so called war record. I and many other sailors have more time shitting in a bucket on the fantail of a swift boat than Kerry spent in Viet Nam. And he bugged out at that. Nah, this guy is a fraud, he wants it both ways, he besmirched the reputation of thousands of good and decent veterans who served their country with honor and valor, now he wants to be president, huh. Until one of the Kerry supporters can step forward on this site and put forward some facts that support their "man" other than his so called war hero status, this guy will remain a sorry puke in my opinion. And if he was ever to somehow obtain the keys to the White house I will be one of the first in line to throw my medals over the fence.
CGC swift boat veteran, An Toi, Danang 68-69 |
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cgc Seaman Recruit
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Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject: By the way |
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For you veterans who are still sailing with Kerry up the Bo Hap, and rehashing his exploits in his defense, and putting a spin on legit questions concerning his honor and integrity, I feel sorry for you. For in reality you condone his words about the Viet Nam war and you dishonor all of those who didn't make it home. There is no explanation or excuse that you can offer me or the thousands of other Veterans who served as why you stick up for this loser. In fact I have noticed that most of you who come to this guy Kerry's defense pretty much preach from a script. Three men on my boat crew did not make it home, young and strong men, who gave it up for their country. Only to be defamed after death by a hero "wannabe", who told lies and half-truths to position himself for a future political run for President. If your a veteran and you got Kerry's back, your backing a very despicable loser.
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panther1505 Seaman Recruit
Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 18
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject: RIGHT ON CGC |
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Hell yes, CGC,
I agree 100% with you, and I think that I can safely say that most of those who are on this website agree with your last note telling those vets who support John Kerry that they are supporting a man without integrity, a man without honor, and a man without character.
I think that what you have said should be aimed at all veterans, peace time, war time, and especially those who are currently serving in our armed forces.
I hope that everybody who is currently on active duty and are going to vote absentee, know that this sad sack (John Kerry) voted against the 87 billion dollar military budget increase, and he also voted against sending body armor to our troops over in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I hope that some of the people who are undecided reads this and see John Kerry for the scum bag that he truly is.
AIRBORNE ALL THE WAY. LET'S NOT LOSE SIGHT OF OUR OBJECTIVE.
TO STOP JOHN KERRY FROM BECOMING THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. _________________ Mike Davis
Warren, Mich.
82nd Airborne Division
CSC 1/505th Airborne Infantry
1980 - 1983 |
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waltjones PO2
Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 392 Location: 'bout 40 miles north of Seattle
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:55 pm Post subject: CIC and ... |
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Worse yet - Commandant of my United States Marine Corps! Arrrrrrrrgh!!!
Semper Fi! _________________ Walt Jones (USMC, '65 - '69) It says much about the person who defends a man with no honor. |
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sixdogteam Seaman
Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 183 Location: Upper Wabash River Valley
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 12:20 am Post subject: such a long time a go...yesterday |
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You know , guys, this all happened such a long, long time ago--we're talking thirty five years here--yet it is all so vivid im my mind, and has been every single day since then, that it's like YESTERDAY. But time has a way of healing the hurts of our youth...I don't hate the draft dodgers who went to Canada or Sweden any more--in fact I admire them in some ways--they gave up a lot for what they believed in--Even the Bill Clinton types that just lied their way out of serving--I don't harbor ill will in my heart for them... But, I tell you the truth, I am not a good enough man yet, Dear Jesus, to forgive the Jane Fonda Traitors--I desperately want to have a pure heart and forgive them, but I just can't. John Kerry just represents the epitome of Treason to me. It breaks my heart that our country can turn it's back on our vets and current troops and honor a guy like this. On December 24th, 1970, I lay on a sandy bed on my back stareing up at a slowly swirling ceiling fan, the stench of sewer gasses filling my nostils, in a whorehouse room over a Tea Bar on Tu Do street in Cho Lon, and wished I was home. Luckily I made it home, but I gotta tell ya, Even tho it's been right there on the top of the back of my mind ever since, my experiences in Nam are never something I wanted to remember or proclaim to the world. Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of my service, but I would never throw my decorations away or brag about what I did either. Atrocities did occur, but they were not the norm, in my experience. John Kerry is a national Disgrace for what he did when he got back to the world. That he should be honored now is a Twilight Zone Nightmare. --Thanks for your service, brothers--Rick _________________ HHC 212th CAB MMAF RVN '70-'71 |
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ASPB Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy
Joined: 01 Jun 2004 Posts: 1680
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:31 am Post subject: |
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Rick,
Welcome home brother and thank you for sharing your heart. In the heat of political warfare we sometimes forget the pain we all suffered, there and here.
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cgc Seaman Recruit
Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 47
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 8:59 am Post subject: A long time ago |
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Yes it all happened a long time ago, I hear you load and clear, I too almost forgot, and I came close to forgiving. BUT, when Kerry decided to step back into the limelight and is now using his 4and 1/2 months to attempt to capture the Presidents job, My memories come roaring back. In spite of everything else he can't have it both ways, Either he is for or against something, either we did our jobs in Viet Nam, and those we left behind died with honor, or we're all a bunch of war criminals and mis-fits like he protrayed us . Either he (Kerry) fought for what he believed in or he used the system for his own political gain. For you see I think he jumped on the political bandwagon in 70 and 71 and came out as a war resister because it was a popular thing to do and he thought he could cash in on it later.. But I and a lot of other veterans read his now proclaimed "hero" status as just so much ********. Yea I got a stench in my nose also, its the stench of ********. As far as those pukes who skated to Canada and who lied to get out of the draft, and who Carter pardoned. You may forgive brother, but whats the difference between them and Jenkins the dude who just came to Japan from North Korea after defecting to the North Korea side. Sorry evading military service by going to another country or lying you way out I can't forget. Thats what our court system is for.And coming back after your four and a half month "hero" tour and and telling the world what a bunch of screwups you left behind, and all the atrocites you saw, and how you now sympatize with the other size, thats too big of a stump for me to swallow. Angry? nah, I'm just a realist, they want all the bennies, all the rights and privledges, the education thats in America, and they run off to Canada, and lie their way out of service. Screw em. As for Kerry, C'mon John, just for once take a stand on something, anything and stick with it, you flip flop more than fish out of water. Bush gives his word and sticks to it, for the good of his country, rather than whats politically in season. Let them say what they want about about Bush, Think back to the world war two vets you grew up with, men of conviction and honor and then compare them to the men who say they are fit to lead our country.
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