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Do Scientologists, who favor death rather than disability, play a significant role in the Terri Schiavo case? I believe the answer is "Yes." Clearwater Florida, especially downtown Clearwater, is Scientology's worldwide spiritual headquarters and main training ground. The Flag Service Organization, located in Clearwater, provides the highest level of Scientology training and is the largest single Scientology "church" in the world! Scientology brochures claim that Clearwater Florida has the "largest community of Scientologists in the world." Back in 1998, the "church" of Scientology generated from 1.5 to 2 million dollars of income per week! This material success enables them to maintain ownership of tens of millions of dollars worth of property (about 40 buildings) as well as many businesses
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No, Michael Schiavo does not necessarily have to be a Scientologist simply because he commits felonies regarding his guardianship duties. However, Michael's employment of Scientology tech against his incapable wife and his complete confidence that the Pinellas County Court system will protect him while he continually and flagrantly breaks Florida laws strongly suggest that he is involved in Scientology. The fact that he has never received any punishment for abusing, exploiting and neglecting a disabled adult indicates that someone or rather some organization which largely enjoys "above the law" status in Clearwater Florida is pulling legal strings on his behalf—and has been doing so for years. |
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shawa
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My thoughts: I am so sad.
My reason for doing all the previous googling was because I thought
I had a brilliant idea of how Governor Bush could save Terri.
Since Bush's attempt to take Terri under protective custody pending
abuse investigation by DCF was knocked down by Greer, I thought
Hmm, he needs a different issue of investigation.---attempted murder charges against Michael??
Terri would need protective custody as being material to the investigation. No, that would be the
purview of the local District Attorney who is probably buddies with Greer.
So, ok go to the State level. Get the State Attorney General to
investigate the mysterious collapse of Terri. Would he cooperate in
placing Terri in protective custody?
Google to find out who the AG is. No, he wouldn't want anything to do with it, he's a democrat
and already testified before Greer. So much for my brilliant idea!!
Dear God, Terri is going to die!! Is there no justice for her??
Then I'm back to thinking well if Terri dies she still should get Justice!!
Maybe the Medical Examiner won't authorize cremation, due to
trauma being the PROXIMATE cause of death.(As per Statute).
Google to see who is the Medical Examiner of Pinellas County.
Hmm, Former Medical Examiner Joan Wood, scared by Scientologists
into changing cause of death in murder case!!!!!!
I'm stunned and shaken!! The County Sheriff is involved too.
He hired Michael as a nurse at the county jail.
Justice for Terri was doomed from the start.
Am I crazy????
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shawa
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Tanya wrote
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Something stinks!!! Thanks for the link Tanya.
http://www.justiceforfloridaseniors.org/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=26
| Quote: | ~snip~Her home county has historically resisted guardianship reform, says Alvarez, who now specializes in guardianship and trust law in private practice. "Pinellas has always been a problem," Alvarez says. "I don't know why."
Ron Stuart, a spokesman for Demers, told GCBR after the hearing that the chief judge simply wants DeBlaker and her auditors to follow the law.
"Absurd" was the reaction of George W. Greer, a Pinellas circuit judge who hears probate cases, to Melton's proposal for more openness in guardianships.
"Splash the wards' Social Security numbers all over the public record so we have more identity theft," Greer told GCBR after the hearing. "I'm at a loss to see what that would accomplish."
As for auditing guardianships, Melton told the task force that his office is getting stonewalled.
"In Pinellas County, attempts are being made to limit the clerk's audit authority," Melton said. "This ranges from guardians that refuse to submit to an audit unless a court order is received, to judges that question the authority of the clerk to use professional auditing staff to conduct the audits."
Grossman asked Melton several times if a Pinellas judge had ever prevented clerk's auditors from examining the entire record of a guardianship case. "Again, I don't want to get into confidential communications," Melton replied. "But it would be fair to say the court has."
Guardians are rebuffing Pinellas auditors who seek financial and other records of wards, says Melton. He indicated that DeBlaker is in delicate negotiations with Demers over whether court orders compelling guardians to produce the records will be forthcoming. "I can say that the judges are disinclined to let professional auditors get involved in audits for professional guardianships," Melton told Grossman.
"But you don't want to give any more details to this task force?"~snip~ |
So we know where Terri's rehab money is. In a corrupt judge's control
who will not allow it to be independently audited. A slush fund with no
accountability.
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shawa
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Bit by bit we're digging up the corruption! ALL THROUGH THE COUNTY!!
Look what poor Terri is up against!!!!
| Quote: | FLORIDA DCF SEEKS 60-DAY
STAY IN SCHIAVO DEATH WARRANT[\b]
McCabe Conflict Requires Special Prosecutor
© By The Empire Journal
A stay on the implementation of a court order that would end of the life of Florida woman Terri Schindler-Schiavo is set to expire today at 5 p.m. but the Florida Department of Children and Services (DCF) has asked the judge for a 60 day delay of the removal of the woman’s feeding tube until they can complete an investigation into her alleged abuse and neglect.
Terri 41, is severely brain damaged following a collapse 15 years ago today on Feb. 25,1990. Her husband and legal guardian, Michael, has been engaged in a decade-long legal battle with her parents, Mary and Robert Schindler concerning her care. Schiavo is seeking her death by court order while her parents are battling to keep her alive and care for her.
On Wednesday, Sixth Circuit Court Judge George W. Greer extended the stay of his 2000 order for judicial homicide until 5 p.m. Friday at a contentious court hearing highlighted by the surprise entry of DCF chief legal counsel Kelly McGibben who served a motion on the court indicating the agency’s intervention into the court.
When McKibben asked to address the court, Greer denied her the opportunity.
He said he would issue his decision on extending the stay today by fax because he did not want another “display” in the courtroom, obviously unhappy with the DCF intervention.
An attorney with the Gibbs Law Firm of Seminole which represents the Schindlers said that the 11-page confidential DCF report has been shared with the attorneys. DCF did not return a call placed to their offices of Adult Protective Services by The Empire Journal.
Attorney Matt Davis said that the report appears to repeat complaints which the Schindlers had made previously that their daughter has not received adequate therapy and medical care and has been deprived of other rights. While the report does not name an alleged suspect in the abuse and neglect, the Schindlers and others including sworn affidavits from caregivers have pointed the finger at Michael Schiavo.
He has previously denied abuse allegations.
Although he swore under oath at trial in 1992 that he would take care of his wife for the rest of her life, once he received the settlement totaling some $1.7 million, he ordered all rehabilitative services for her be stopped.
Davis said that “we are confident when someone from outside does see how Terri has been treated they will see she has been mistreated all these years”.
[b]According to DOH records, Schiavo of Clearwater is licensed by the state both as a registered respiratory therapist and a registered nurse. He was licensed as a registered nurse in January, 2000. His license expires on April 30, 2005 and shows no disciplinary actions.
He was licensed as a respiratory therapist on May 25, 1999. That license expires on May 31, 2005 and also shows no disciplinary action.
As such, Schiavo would be subject to regulation by the health department as well other oversight agencies including Florida’s Department of Children and Families (DCF)
In November, 2002, Schindlers’ attorney presented new evidence to the court and Greer that had just been made available to them regarding the bone scan of Terri Schiavo indicating bone fractures and trauma which had occurred throughout her body, evidence which had not been available before to them because of Michael Schiavo refusing to release the medical records. It wasn’t until Terri’s “neurological” trial in 2002 that doctors, other than Michael Schiavo’s, were finally able to review her complete hospital medical records. They found, and told the court, that Terri never suffered a heart attack the night she collapsed in 1990.
But Greer refused the attorney’s request for an investigation, stating, “The court concludes that while it might be interesting to pursue the issue of trauma as it may have occurred almost 12 years ago, that has nothing to do with Theresa Marie Schiavo in 2002 and the mandate of the 2nd District Court of Appeal in this cause rendered Oct. 17, 2001.
While the DCA issued a mandate Tuesday, the final order in their refusal to hear the religious liberties issue denied by both Greer and DCA, there are still other legal motions pending by the Schindlers including a three year old motion before Greer to remove the husband as Terri’s guardian.
An appeal of Greer’s denial of the Schindler’s motion regarding independent legal counsel and alleged violation of their daughter’s due process rights was filed with the DCA on Tuesday. The Schindlers also intend to ask the U.S. Supreme Court to review the religious liberties issue and has asked for new medical testing for their daughter.
David Gibbs, Schindlers’ attorney reminded Greer that in 2000 when Michael Schiavo was asked what he would do if a new treatment for Terri emerged, he responded, “I would be there in a heartbeat”.
The Adult Services Program, a division of DCF, serves two primary groups----vulnerable elderly and disabled adults who are victims of abuse, neglect or exploitation, or in need of services due to neglect by the vulnerable themselves; or permanently disabled adults who need assistance to remain in their homes in the community.
RANKING DCF OFFICIALS BLOCKED FINDINGS
According to information obtained by The Empire Journal, the DCF legal division reportedly blocked disclosure of findings investigation of DCF investigator Mitchell Turner who had produced a report about alleged felony abuse, neglect and exploitation of Terri Schiavo following a 60-day investigation during November and December, 2001.
Although it is claimed that her injuries were caused by oxygen deprivation to the brain as the result of a heart attack caused by a potassium imbalance as the result of an eating disorder, medical evidence indicates that she may have been the victim of domestic violence the night of the collapse.
A Florida resident who substantiated his complaint to DCF about the Schiavo case with over 1,700 pages of documentation, met with the DCF investigator at least 10 times. The investigator also twice visited Terri Schiavo, once accompanied by her parents.
That’s more than Judge Greer has done. Even though he is acting in the dual role of guardian ad litem for Terri Schiavo, he has never personally visited her and has no personal knowledge of her condition.
The complainant heard nothing more regarding the DCF investigation until attending a court hearing in the Schiavo case before Greer. At that time, Greer waved papers in his hand, saying that the DCF investigation had been sealed. The complainant had never been notified.
According to media reports, within the week, Florida’s attorney general Charlie Crist appeared in a televised report saying that there had never been any complaints made to DCF regarding the Terri Schiavo case----a blatant false statement to the public.
According to reports, Crist is planning a run for governor in 2006.
Frank Nagatani is chief legal counsel for DCF.
Records of Florida’s Division of Elections shows that Nagatani and his wife, Linda, were financial contributors to Greer’s election campaigns in both 1998 and 2004----elections for which Greer allegedly failed to qualify according to an investigation conducted by The Empire Journal.
Nagatani, said to be a personal friend of Greer, is also division director of the Pinellas Health Department. Nagatani reportedly blocked the subpoenaed testimony of the DCF investigator in the Schiavo case during a proceeding before Greer when the existence of a DCF investigation and report in the case was publicly acknowledged.
DCF COUNSEL GREER CONTRIBUTOR
Given the known personal relationship between Nagatani and Greer as well as the known campaign contributions, it would appear that the state bar association and judicial disciplinary agency, the Florida Qualifications Commission, should review the involvement of Nagatani in the Schiavo court proceedings before Greer as well as the contents of the sealed DCF file in the case.
This time around, McKibben rather than Nagatani is the chief legal counsel handling the matter.
Section 415 of Florida Statutes would provide for DCF to take Terri Schiavo into protective custody. DCF is required, upon receipt of a report alleging abuse, neglect or exploitation of a vulnerable adult, begin with 24 hours a protective investigation of the facts alleged. No later than 60 days after receiving the initial report, DCF staff must complete the investigation and notify the guardian, the vulnerable adult, and the caregiver.
Upon receipt of a report which alleges than an employee or agent of the department acting in an official capacity has committed an act of abuse, neglect or exploitation, DCF is required to commence a protective investigation and notify the state attorney in whose circuit the alleged abuse, neglect or exploitation occurred.
Within 15 days after completion of the state attorney’s investigation of a case reported to him or pursuant to Section 415, the state attorney must report his findings to DCF and is required to include a determination of whether or not prosecution is justified and appropriate.
However, in the Schiavo case, the state attorney involved would be Bernie McCabe who has steadfastly refused to investigate reports of abuse and other alleged criminal wrongdoing in the Schiavo case. Knowledgeable sources have told The Empire Journal that McCabe has allegedly issued an order that no police reports or complaints are to be taken against Michael Schiavo and others involved with him in the matter.
With McCabe and his office , former Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice and Nagatani all involved in Greer’s election campaign and with alleged violations of campaign financing and election warranting civil and perhaps criminal penalties, a serious conflict of interest seems to exist which would require the appointment of a special prosecutor to handle any report referred to the state attorney’s office in the Schiavo case by DCF. http://www.theempirejournal.com/02230590_schiavo_judge_tv_commer.htm and http://www.theempirejournal.com/02240541_schiavo_judge_ad_flap_c.htm
Informed sources of The Empire Journal have stated that in the past, allegations of abuse of Terri Schiavo have been investigated and “gone all the way to the top” only to be told that its “hands off” and that no action will be taken.
According to one source who made a documented, substantiated allegations of abuse concerning Terri to DCF in August, 2001, DCF investigator Steve Nehring told her that the “higher-ups” refused to get involved in the case and marked the file “unfounded”. She says Nehring told her that “98% of the people here in my building (DCF) think Terri should be given back to her parents to allow them to care for her”.
Attempts by The Empire Journal to contact Nehring Thursday were unsuccessful.
AG CRIST DENIED PREVIOUS DCF COMPLAINTS
According to information received from informed sources, complaints regarding the Schiavo case had been taken by the DCF Adult Protective Services Hotline, further substantiation that Attorney General Crist had either lied to the public or had not been apprised of the complaints and resulting investigation.
One of the complainants had been asked to appear with Terri’s father, Robert, before Rep. Sandra Murman (R-Tampa) , chairperson of the DCF Oversight Committee, to discuss the complaints and investigation, actions of Judge Greer involving alleged violations by Michael Schiavo of the guardianship law, and possible solutions.
However, in attempting to schedule a meeting, the complainant and Mr. Schindler were suddenly advised that Murman would not be allowed to meet with them to discuss the complaint due to confidentiality provisions.
Murman, who has announced she is seeking reelection in 2006, was first elected to Florida’s House of Representatives in 1996. Murman voted in favor of Terri’s Law in October, 2003, Gov. Bush’s provision to reinsert the gastric tube after Greer had ordered it removed. But it appears even though she has knowledge about the possible criminal aspect and alleged wrongdoings in the Schiavo case, she has not been forthcoming about it.
After one of the complainants learned at the court proceeding that the report had been sealed, DCF inadvertently returned his original complaint to him. Realizing what they had done, DCF officials contacted him, saying that he had “something of theirs” and they wanted it returned. He did not respond, instead discussed the matter with legal counsel and as advised, secured the boxes of documents in a locked facility.
It appears that Michael Schiavo could still be prosecuted if criminal culpability and action was established following a proper Department of Health or DCF investigation as state law sets the statute of limitations in the prosecution of felony charges at three years meaning criminal charges would have to be filed within three years of the alleged incident.
According to Florida’s Criminal Code, abuse of an elderly person or disabled adult means intentional infliction of physical or psychological injury upon that person. An intentional act is defined as one that could reasonably be expected to result in physical or psychological injury. Such abuse is addressed in Chapter 825, Section 102 of Florida statutes.
Under the statute, neglect is defined as “a caregiver’s failure or omission to provide an elderly person or disabled adult with the care, supervision and services necessary to maintain the elderly person’s or disabled adult’s physical and mental health, including but not limited to food, nutrition, clothing, shelter, supervision, medicine and medical services that a prudent person would consider essential for the well being of the elderly person disabled adult”.
A violation of the law is a felony punishable by both fine and imprisonment. There is no exception in the statute for denial of food or nutrition under a court order.
Due to the dual licensing by the state of Michael Schiavo as a health care provider, he is particularly susceptible to the statutes in addition to being the husband and guardian of his wife by marriage, Terri Schiavo.
NUMEROUS INCIDENTS
Numerous incidents of alleged neglect and abuse of Terri have been raised by the Schindlers in court papers before Judge George Greer. However, rather than raise the issue before Greer in his dual conflicting role, it appears that an impartial investigation concerning the care of Terri Schiavo is overdue, as is a Grand Jury investigation into how she initially sustained the injuries. (See http://www.theempirejournal.com/alleged_schiavo_abuse_florida_of.htm )
In late April, 2004, a writ of quo warranto seeking to remove Michael Schiavo as Terri’s guardian was filed before Greer by Schindler attorney Patricia Anderson, based primarily on the fact that no annual care plan for the disabled woman was in place, a requirement under the guardianship laws.
This filing came after five teeth were removed from Terri due to a lack of dental care. The week following Easter, 2004, an unnamed oral surgeon examined her and extracted five of her back teeth without notification to or knowledge by her parents. Michael Schiavo’s attorneys said the extraction was due to “non-use over the years”.
However, experts said that non-use would not cause such deterioration but rather that she had not received regular dental care and had allegedly been denied necessary services and rehabilitation.
Additionally, her mother, Mary said that Terri’s hair was not being washed regularly, that she was not being kept clean and that she had developed a bed sore.
According to informed sources, a highly detailed, specific complaint regarding the dental care issue and other alleged negligence was filed with DOH last spring by one of Terri’s caregivers. However, DOH then issued a letter to the complainant indicating that the matter had been investigated and was unfounded. The letter was dated the day before an investigator was actually dispatched to the facility where Terri was a patient indicating the complaint has been summarily dismissed without investigation.
At a case management hearing in October, 2002, in response to a reference about the DCF complaint, Greer said “Oh yeah, and we got the DCF report” but he made no disclosure of its contents saying it was sealed.
There is evidence that at least four highly detailed complaints were filed with DCF in the Schiavo case including one filed in early November, 2001, containing over 1,700 pages of supportive attachments and documentation alleging neglect, abuse and exploitation of a disabled person pursuant to Florida Statute 825. Documentation was also provided that abuse, negligence, criminal and unapproved actions by the guardian pursuant to Florida Statutes under Chapters 744 and 765 involving numerous violations and infractions of the law, had occurred.
COVERUP ALLEGED
According to the complainant, the DCF supervisor investigated for 60 days with numerous contacts. The complainant maintains that the DCF investigator agreed that “outrageous activities” had resulted in Terri’s neglected condition on the many fronts being presented. The investigator reportedly reviewed all 1,700 pages and made several visits to examine Terri alone, witnessed her reacting to her parents and her environment, and inspected the hospice records and facility.
The DCF investigator accepted additional supportive evidence, both offered and requested. Several other persons were involved such as past caregivers, doctors, facilities and Michael Schiavo was allegedly interviewed by DCF. The final report was completed at last minute on the 60th day, the 60 day time frame set by law.
The report reportedly “went up the chain and came back down only to be labeled UNFOUNDED, apparently quashed by higher-ups.
The complainant says that when pressed, the investigator said that there were recommendations made but would not say to whom. The complainant reports that the investigator said in disgusted tone that “all he could say was to keep up the fight”.
According to informed sources present for virtually all the court proceedings in the Schiavo case, Greer never addressed the DCF report again. Calls to state attorney McCabe produced the response, “we can’t do anything unless the local law enforcement finds something for us to investigate”
The Empire Journal has also learned of other detailed complaints involving the Schiavo case filed with the DCF as well as the Agency for Health Care Administration (AHCA). The newspaper is withholding the names of the complainants lest there be attempted retaliation against them.
During 2003, a complaint supported with documentation was filed with AHCA but the complainant was met with a “runaround and cover-up”. He then decided to contact DCF in April, 2004, and provide them with the AHCA complaint numbers. This was following an incident at the facility when Michael Schiavo filed a complaint with police against the Schindlers for alleged “needle” marks on Terri’s arm after their visit with her. The facility physician admitted that the marks could have been caused by jewelry or fingernails. Schiavo’s complaint against Schindlers was rendered unfounded.
The complainant says that the deputy inspector general of AHCA told him that there were intra-agency communications between AHCA and DCF involving the Schiavo case, giving further evidence of alleged conspiratorial actions in covering up the alleged abuse and neglect.
When the complainant tried to give DCF his complaint numbers for AHCA, the DCF representative refused to take any information. A DCF supervisor also refused to take the information. The complainant says he then contacted the office of Inspector General at DCF who advised him that DCF was obstructing him as a mandatory reporter and instructed him to file an on-line complaint against the intake person and supervisor. Although it was done, he was never contacted.
DCF staff didn’t only obstruct the complainant, according to Dan McCall, an IG investigator. McCalls says DCF staff stonewalled him in his investigation after he was assigned last fall to determine if DCF was complying with the notification law. He determined there was massive non-compliance with the law.
Not only has Greer consistently ruled against the law while acting in his [b]prohibited dual role of guardian ad litem and judge, but he has refused to order an investigation into the matter----even in the face of new evidence presented to the court in 2002 and the new evidence evolving in the scandal of Florida’s Department of Health concerning the mishandling of nearly 24,000 files involving complaints against health care providers and individuals.
Under Florida Statute 415, the DCF has the authority to take custody of the “vulnerable adult” and launch the state attorney into action. However, they have chosen not to do the job they are mandated to perform under the Constitution and state laws and thus, according to critics, guilty of criminal conduct..
It appears that in the past ranking officials at DCF may have violated Section 415.104 in that while it is known that at least four complaints were filed with DCF in the Terri Schiavo case, neither she nor her legal counsel were ever informed of the complaint and in the case of the file waived in court by Greer, were never provided a copy of the report------a clear cut violation of law.
[color]Most importantly, the statute provides that each person has the right to obtain his or her own attorney. Judge George Greer, by acting as guardian ad litem, has violated not only state law, but the constitutional rights of Terri Schiavo by steadfastly denying her the right to her own attorney.
See http://www.theempirejournal.com/greer_schiavo_articles.htm and www.terrisfight.org
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I heard Jay Sekulow on Hannity today say Governor Bush has his whole staff combing the records at the Department of Health. He didn't say WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR, BUT NOW I KNOW!!!
Maybe bypass Greer and the local Sheriff, and State Attorney and go right to the U.S. DOJ.
HURRY< HURRY!! SAVE TERRI!!!!
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wish there was some way to have an autopsy, but imagine the fix has been in with the trio ( Felos, Greer, Sciavo) since day one, why else the rush for cremation...cover up a crime?
in this tidbit in Friday's court filing, the Schindler's attorneys laid this card on the table
March 25 filing
In the Circuit Court for Pinellas County
March 25, 2005
~snip, my transcription
| Quote: | The circumstances surrounding her initial anoxic episode and her subsequent neurological status are consistant with a victim who has been strangled. A ‘heart attack ’precipitated by severe metabolic disease secondary to an eating disorder is inconsistent. Such a severely compromised heart would never continue top pump effectively for 15 more years. Mr Schiavo’s unstable behavioral patterns as described by Dr. Craddock
(and nurses who cared for Teri Schiavo) are a classis Batterer Profile. It is critical that Teri Schiavo’s case be considered as a possible attempted homicide.
Geroge E. McClane, MD |
( Dr McClane's CV is almost half of that report, definitly an expert in the field, ie battering/abuse)
there is SO much information out there, medical reports, witnesses, etc etc etc, that Greer would just not allow.
Can we say...cover-up
another lil tidbit from that file, relating to Attorney Weller's attempts to have Terri verbalize her wish to live
| Quote: | | female police officer outside the door valiantly attempting to keep from crying |
These officers have gotten some bad press, just for being there. It has to be hard, at least for some of them
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I just don't see how Judge Greer has the absolute authority to prevent
an autopsy. I know that the laws of Florida are "screwy", but I would
think there is some provision for the Medical Examiner to intervene. I
think that there is more to Michael's desire to have Terri's body cremated
immediately after her death than just another attempt to hurt the Schindlers.
He must realize how suspicious such a request is, so it must be of vital
importance that any physical evidence of prior mistreatment of Terri
by him be destroyed forever.
I was saddened tonight by the anti-Jeb rhetoric. Everyone should realize
that the powers given to the Governor vary from state to state. I can
remember that, back in 2000, the Dems used the fact that in Texas the
Governor has limited powers as evidence of GWB's lack of preparation
to be POTUS. If you look at the anguish on Jeb's face, you can see that
he would do anything within the law to save Terri. Indeed, were it
not for him, Terri would have been dead a long time ago. Although some
disagree, Jay Sekulow, who is a brilliant, Christian lawyer, does not
believe that Jeb can violate a court order. Both Bush bothers were raised
to act within the law and to work within the system to change laws that
need to be changed. I think when Randall Terry and other advisors of the
Schindlers go on national television demanding that the Bush brothers
break the law, it makes all of us appear to be what the left is always
accusing us of being - right wing extremists. I totally agree that God's
law superceeds man's law, but Jesus reminds us in his own words to
"render unto Caesar what is Caesar's". Also, God's ways are not our
ways. The time that we spend here on earth is infinitessimal when
compared to the time we will spend in eternity with Him. He has allowed
this to happen for a reason and His angels are ready to carry Terri to
Heaven where she will live on forever.
My heart breaks for the Schindlers and I am appalled at what I have been
witnessing in the United States of American during the holiest week of the
Christian year. I think we should all dedicate ourselves to making sure
that Terri will not have died in vain. Make sure that the TRUE facts about
her case are publicized, and that Michael Schiavo will one day pay for the
crimes that he has perpetrated against this innocent woman. All of the
corruption and obstruction that has gone on for years will eventually come
to light. As Sean said the other day, let Mark Furman get ahold of this
story with his excellent investigative skills. I believe that Michael will one
day be brought to justice, just like another Michael in Massachusettes was
found guilty over twenty years after his brutal murder of another innocent
young woman.
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joeshero
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Location: Midwest
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You are right, Susan. I haven't been able to sleep for the last three days following this case. I try to find an answer as to why an entire nation let a single judge starve this poor, helpless and innocent woman to death. I think that just like the movie "Passion of the Christ" last year, may be this case is an "instrument" in reminding us all about the passion of Christ. Contrary to the biased polls reported by the MSM, I think more than 50% of Americans still value life preciously and they would not just easily plug any supporting tube out from the body of their dying loved one.
Perhaps this song can calm our troubled heart.
IT IS WELL, IT IS WELL
When peace, like a river, attendeth my way,
When sorrows like sea billows roll;
Whatever my lot, Thou has taught me to say,
It is well, it is well, with my soul.
It is well, with my soul,
It is well, with my soul,
It is well, it is well, with my soul.
Though Satan should buffet, though trials should come,
Let this blessed assurance control,
That Christ has regarded my helpless estate,
And hath shed His own blood for my soul.
It is well, with my soul,
It is well, with my soul,
It is well, it is well, with my soul.
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Tanya
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Barbie2004
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Joined: 18 Sep 2004
Posts: 338
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I don't understand why there are no investigations.
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shawa
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Joined: 03 Sep 2004
Posts: 2004
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I just heard on Rush that they have now introduced a morphine drip
for Terri!! WHY!!! She is supposedly not suffering.
A doctor called Rush to tell him that this is common for doctors
to do, as a LEGALmeans of ENDING life. The purpose of the
morphine is supposedly to alleviate suffering of the patient in their final
stages. But then the morphine drip is increased to a level that stops the
heart.
Is THIS what they are planning for Terri????
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srmorton
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Joined: 07 Aug 2004
Posts: 383
Location: Jacksonville, NC
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I saw something very interesting today on www.freerepublic.com about
Greta and her husband. They are both Scientologists and own a home
on Clearwater Beach, Florida, which is in the heart of Scientology territory.
Since they are a Washington, DC, "power couple", they do not talk much
about the fact that they belong to a church that some feel (myself included)
is more properly considered a "cult".
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